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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-04 23:26 [#00684326]
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Ok, so this movie is considered so great... won loads of academy awards, and all that... I just watched it, and I thought it kinda sucked... it was pretty boring except for the russion roulette scenes which were totally intense!! But other then that it was dragged out, and maybe I'm a little slow, but I found it hard to follow... there didn't seem to be much continuity to it... I couldn't make much sense out of it... anyways, I heard good things, and watched it... and it ain't that great! And I don't really see why Christopher Walken deserved an award for his performance... it wasn't anything special...
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-05-04 23:35 [#00684331]
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i disagree, i've watched this movie lots of times, and it is a classic in my eyes... very depressing tho...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-04 23:38 [#00684334]
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i wasn't impressed with it either but a lot of people love it for its aura. i don't think it sucks, it just didn't strike a chord with me like it does others. i got a "war is hell" vibe off it for sure but it's not as harrowing as some other war films i've seen. i'll watch it again in a few years and love it i'm sure.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-05-04 23:51 [#00684335]
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I also enjoy this movie a TON...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-05 01:41 [#00684382]
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i saw this movie about 10 times...dont know why really, could be because of a nice surroundings...i think its a bit overrated, acting was pretty cool tho (not just walken)
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steve
from chicago on 2003-05-05 02:06 [#00684398]
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Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I love Robert De Niro, I love Christopher Walken, I just didn't love this movie.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-05 04:31 [#00684498]
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I like this movie very much. Especially the long weding scenes wich i think feels very authentic , they really look drunk , good acting.
The whole movie feels authentic even if the russian roulete scenes are a made up metaphore to describe the hell that is war ( alot of vets complained about those scenes and said it never took place in the vietnam war).
The confused ending is good too when they sing together in their grief , they don't know what else to do , they are just tools incapable of admiting that the goverment might have done wrong sending troops to vietnam .
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-05 09:39 [#00684768]
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that's another thing, the wedding thing... here I was thinking this was a war movie, and an hour goes by before they even get to the war... and there ain't much war footage... I thought the wedding scene was dragged out too much... I really don't have much good to say... De Niro WAS good though, I have to admit that...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-05-05 09:45 [#00684774]
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its an excellent film, up there with the best. a good film can really drag you in and become all absorbing and this one certainly does that. and of course there's the theme song... :)
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-05-05 09:47 [#00684777]
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it may be a little overrated... but, i think it has great acting and a realistic feel throughout. the pace is a bit slow, but, if you're in the right mood the pace gives it an intimate feel that lets you identify with the characters really well.
certainly not for everyone... but, i recomend you watch it again, possibly on a boring rainy day... maybe it'll hit home next time.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-05-05 10:21 [#00684803]
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I agree with funkmaster.....I had to watch this movie to write a school report on a few years back. I disliked it....boring.....except for the war scenes.
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cataLYST
from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-05 10:35 [#00684808]
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alltogether, a great flick.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-05-05 10:42 [#00684811]
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I really liked it.
It kinda has a deeper meaning for me in some parts because of my past.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-05-05 10:52 [#00684823]
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I felt with the same with Taxi Driver. I thought it was a shite.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-05-05 10:53 [#00684826]
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was shit*
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-05 10:55 [#00684829]
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that russian rulette scenes were not necessary imo-it just doesnt click with the rest of the film
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-05 10:59 [#00684839]
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heh, well take those out and it's utter crap imo... those were the only exciting and intense scenes in the whole movie for me...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-05 11:19 [#00684882]
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they could make another movie about that shit...i also didnt like the war scenes (actually i have both versions-one with war scenes and one without)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-05 11:22 [#00684888]
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well, I do agree that they didn't seem to fit well... but not much did in my mind... I couldn't make much sense out of it... but I found the war scenes most enjoyable, even if they did seem out of place... well, the russian roulette scenes I mean...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-05 11:25 [#00684899]
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they could make one version for you and one version for me out of that flick...
nice love story for me and killing , slaughter russian rulette for you :)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-05 11:27 [#00684904]
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hehe, yes lots of killing and blood for me!!!! :)
But seriously, I enjoyed those scenes most, cause they were the most powerful scenes in my opinion... they were fucking tense... I was on the edge of my seat so to speak... whereas the rest of the movie I found to be pretty dull...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-05 11:32 [#00684921]
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i agree they were the most tense ones (i remember the first time, i couldnt watch those rulette scenes...)
the part i liked the best was that deer hunt-where deniro lets that deer alive...but this was more because of beautiful surroundings i guess
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-05 11:35 [#00684924]
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yeah, that part was cool too... you really see how the war affect his feelings about killing and stuff... I will admit that AFTER the war scenes, I enjoyed it more... I don't know, things seemed to make a bit more sense to me... like that scene in particular that you mentioned, and that also helped me understand some other things about the movie, like some of the previous hunting scenes, etc... but still, I found it pretty boring...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-05 11:42 [#00684939]
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well, i watched it for at least 10 times so its not all that boring for me, but yeah, they could do a much better film...i think its biggest problem is that producers wanted it to be a financial success, and to achieve this they needed to include those scenes (there's nothing wrong with war movies btw, i enjoyed platoon for instance), but it would make a much better film if those scenes were only mentioned or if they would've been brief...but hey, im not a movie maker so what do i know hehe
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-05 14:59 [#00685216]
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the long setups are to familiarize you with the characters and their relationships in the small poor community. Its a movie about the effect war has on the lives of normal working class people. They come from a steel working town and they already have problems of their own. poverty and alcoholism are already weighing heavily on these people and now they are thrust into a war because they can't afford to avoid it.
This movie is about loyalty to family and friends. War is just a catylist in this movie.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-05-05 15:06 [#00685227]
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finally someone who understands the brilliant movie
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-05-05 15:35 [#00685305]
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i thought it was quite boring and fake
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-05-05 15:45 [#00685323]
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stick to watching dumbed down all action movies starring some knuckle dragging redneck and i'm sure you'll enjoy ythe rest of your pointless existance wasting away eating mcdonalds and smoking pot
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-05 15:45 [#00685324]
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well said!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-05 15:47 [#00685327]
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nod, nice comment there...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-05-05 15:47 [#00685328]
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look, something's wrong with followup function-it should say followup to tolstoyed...
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-05 16:01 [#00685344]
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you probably won't like Thin Red Line either. just a warning
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-05 17:00 [#00685387]
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I should kill you for saying that!!!! =) Taxi Driver is one of my alltime favorites! How can you disslike it???
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-05 17:07 [#00685392]
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i loved that film!! Thin Red Line is sooo under rated... its one of my fave "war" films, along with "apocalypse now" and "the pianist"
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-05 18:04 [#00685446]
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yeah its great. i don't think it's necessarily under rated though. a lot of people don't like it but it got plenty of praise outside the mainstream.
Incidently, another of Terrence Malick's films, Badlands, is also very good. Natural Born Killers was certainly heavily influenced by this film.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-05 23:44 [#00685725]
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wow seems like an even split..=0)..maybe ? on those who really like it and those that don't.....movies (like music) are berry berry subjective......ehehhe
anyway my take, i thought it was a classic and cried my eyes out when i first saw it. i was able to see it on the big screen tho, during an oscar revival showing......and perhaps? that made a difference since it is a lengthy movie.
i loved it's depiction of life in that rural PA town, very realistic. and i think one reason they spent so much time on the wedding, etc... is so we could get close and somehow emotionally involved with the characters. so later on down the road everything that happened to them, happened to people we knew. the whole thing worked for me.....cos it was totally enthralled.
again something is to be said of watching these lengthy movies in a theatre where you're more likely to focus on the movie and nothing else. that rarely happens at home. =0)
anyway it's a GOOD discussion, and for those that love movies i like reading both the good and bad stuff about movies!!! even if i disagree....=b
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-05 23:49 [#00685727]
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oh oh.....damn i totally forgot
my fav scenes.....one lil one when Deniro saw the HUGE deer and couldn't kill it......i totally KNEW why he couldn't do it.......
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the last scene with walken and deniro....when walken killed himself....heartwrenching!!!!
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