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In short, do you feel that the quality of Plaid's work has gone down since the days they were in The Black Dog ? Frankly, I feel that tracks like Abla Edio, Gel Lab, Eyen, Ladyburst and the Vletrmx remix prove that they still have tne knack. |
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I think the quality has improved, not gone down. |
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I feel the same way, I just recently heard black dog (besides the stuff on trainer) and its really good, but I think I like plaid better |
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plaid is better than black dog. |
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PLAiD kicks your sorry ass anytime, and so does Black Dog. |
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wow, not too many people that share that opinion. I love Plaid too., if only for the reason that they can make accessible music that is still incredibly complex...and that is quite a challenge. But The Black Dog still have a reputation that is hard to shake. |
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Just listening to the Spanners album. And got to thinking that these guys really had some amazing stuff going for them. Their rhythms were out of this world... |
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bytes is incredible too! |
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yeah...I have only a few tracks from Bytes...and none from Temple Of Transparent Balls, which I've heard many people say is really good too. |
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Plaid is fucking awesome man. No questions. Brilliant. I bought Trainer one day, and by the end of the day, I had 3 more Plaid albums. It was love at fist sight. |
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heh...know what you mean...with me it was Double Figure...and before I knew it, I had everything that I could get my grubby paws on. |
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I prefer plaid (who I love) |
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i used to be in plaid pretty much (before i was into aphex), but i dont listen to them that much any more... black dog is about the same thing-good to hear it once in a while dont see much difference between these two |
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The Black Dog were quite cult in their day. Although Plaid are cool, there was more mystery behind The Black Dog which made the whole band very intrigueing. |
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Plaid are good - Black Dog are better imo. Psycosin anyone? |
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theres a REALLY kickass fuckin bar/pub here on the "strip" called the Black Dog.. hgeheeee |
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Yikes, tough question.... I'll have to think on this one.... :[ |
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the black dog are shit now! 'Bytes' is their best album for me, after and before did';t move me either way. it's 'computer music'!. Plaid ? I don't know... I do...but whatever.. |
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can't wait for the Plaid DVD/LP soon to come! |
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i certainly have found less to appreciate in rest proof and double figure (i'm one of the few that didn't like the last album at all), though the autechre remix and diddymousedid from the last ep were fantastic. as much as i've enjoyed plaid, i think their best work with black dog is more timeless. black dog since plaid left (at least everything i've heard) has not been worth hearing. i liked the imagery and mysticism that ken brought to the table, but it seems clear that plaid were the sound innovators of the trio. |
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i do think that there are plenty of weak black dog tracks, especially on parallel (mostly weak) and temple (better ratio of good to bad). |
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Sounds/Feeling etc. they worked well together. Plaid are really submissive and Ken is a cunt! if only they worked well together again properly...... it's not going to happen but hopefully plaid will re-find their roots. |
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Plaid is better, but Bytes is brilliant especially considering the year it was released! Fresh sounding to this day. |
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I happen to think Parallel is one of their best releases....well right behind Bytes. |
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every once in a while i break out my black dog c.d's but i have never really liked them too much. too midi sounding. of course they didn't have the same technology then but even then i didn't really care for them. i did like some of the stuff they did with bjork though. |
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I CAN"T FIND BYTES ON CD!!!! If I could, I would have the sucker. |
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Try bn.com Barnes and Noble has it in stock...there's also Warprecords too. Go get it now foo'!!! |
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Yeah, I guess it was all that Egyptian iconography that kept the mystery and intrigue of Black Dog intact. And admittedly that added a lot to the band's now legendary stature. And now when I listen to their music, I feel the same timelessness that comes through in old Detroit stuff by May and Atkins (Strings Of Life/ Clear/ Nude Photo). And in that sense I respect them. I guess it just that I wasn't around when it first happened, so I am not able to see the huge impact they made in their day. Ed and Andy rock. Ken downie is a ****. The solo "Ken as Black Dog" work is just shite. |
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diddymousedid rocks. |
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I like Black Dog better than Plaid. I would rank all the Black Dog and Plaid albums (that I have) thusly: 1. Black Dog "Spanners" 2. Plaid "Rest Proof Clockwork" 3. Black Dog "Bytes" 4. Black Dog "Peel Session" 5. Plaid "Double Figure" 6. Plaid "Not for Threes" 7. Black Dog "Temple of Transparent Balls" 8. Plaid "Spokes" 9. Black Dog "Parallel" |
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I think Plaid is better |
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plaid are excellent but i seem to be listening to black dog's unsavoury products a fair bit more than any other plaid stuff. what did you guys thinkg of the unsavoury products lp? |
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oh yeah, to answer the original question - i dont think they have got better or worse, i think they are consistantly excellent.. |
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I've only heard bytes from black dog. Which is a pretty good cd... but I think Plaid is easily two times better... at least! Plaid is so good with their melodies |
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Plaid Plaid Plaid Plaid Plaid Plaid Plaid... |
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Plaid are bit boring, imo, compared to the original Black Dog. I love Bytes the most, Parallel, The Peel Session and The Black Dog Productions EP on Rising High with Flux and Otaku. I really like "Music for Adverts" too, i think that has some ace tracks. But Plaid, i don't think they've gone anywhere, they sound like watered down Black Dog. Which is, i guess, what they are. |
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Thinking back now....I like Plaid better, but only because there the only artist out there that can release an album and I pretty much like every damn song on it. The Black Dog are hard to top....they are very influential. As much as I love The Black Dog....I feel Ed's solo work as Balil from TBD era is the best sound the three of them had to offer. It'd be interesting to know who worked on which tracks throughout their career since they were a collective and most tracks were creditied to TBD. I believe the three of them worked together making tracks only on the Virtual EP. |
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Black dog above plaid! |
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le chien noir!!!!! |
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although plaid certainly developed considerately since their break up with the black dog, i prefer their early work as the black dog. i still have a sense of discovering new things when listening to spanners or bytes. their plaid albums however tend to wear out easily. perhaps its indeed the (egyptian) mysticism that's lacking. but when talking about mysticism, i'm glad boc stood up and took the candle from the black dog. and about ed's solo work; a while ago someone mentioned of having an unreleased balil-album!!!!! speak up goddammit!!!! share the motherfucker |
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some of it's on trainer |
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indeed, some... |
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music for adverts is the most interesting CD of Black Dog's I reckon - it's really raw but yeah, Plaid are better check: http://www.yimino.com |
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music for adverts is the most interesting CD of Black Dog's I reckon - it's really raw but yeah, Plaid are better check: http://www.yimino.com they are good too |
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black dog sounds too.. crude to me sometimes. i have to be in the mood for it. overall i like plaid better :) |
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Interesting poll, it could be an official Xltronic weekly poll... :) i say Plaid |
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if you want more, smallfish has the 3xcd early promo version of trainer. |
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!!!!! THANKS!!! |
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