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OK
on 2003-04-27 01:36 [#00671735]
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i can't stand any more of all this. everyone lies and we don't have a clu of what's really going on. i'ts like 1984
i can't stand any more of people talking about human rights while they imprision 15 year olds and kill and starve people... and everyone does it...
i'm done with the cynisism why is everyone else playing the game?
we all know the lies being said, why are we playing the game?
blah whatever nana
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-27 01:37 [#00671736]
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start a revolution
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steve
from chicago on 2003-04-27 01:46 [#00671741]
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This is like watching a child lose his innocence, it's sad.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-27 01:48 [#00671742]
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bittersweet really..
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-27 03:30 [#00671783]
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Not having a good day?
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 03:35 [#00671784]
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sorry wrong thred
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-04-27 03:49 [#00671795]
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you can't change something for yourself... man forget it... it's not the time for revolutions
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 03:56 [#00671806]
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this is the way it's always been. A revolution wouldnt work, its too set in stone now, and besides, 20 years down the line, the lies would come crawling back in anyway. Why dont you run for president? I enhoy bill hicks' theory on that one: first day after elections, president gets put in a room and surounded by his chiefs of staff, they show him the jfk assassination from a crucial 'new' angle. "any questions" they ask.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-04-27 04:09 [#00671817]
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I can live with the lies and the empty election promises. It's the fucking spelling errors on the net that get to me. Not just the net either, I haven't bought a newspaper in years, because of their unprofessionalism. I'm gonna have to start subscribing to New York Post and read week old news.
-P
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-27 04:31 [#00671840]
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this isnt just sad its fucking lame, what are you 13 and retarded? I mean seriously most 13 year olds around here arent fucking this lame even, not even close.
But lets see age doesnt limit your stupidity. Why even ask these lame questions? The world is SHIT, but there is lots of amazing and great things in it, if you cant find those things then consider yourself lost and fucking hopeless, inoccence lost? no, just lame.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-27 04:32 [#00671842]
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I mean if your not happy with the world portray it in a better way, this is whining and really its just not effective, it just sounds like its coming from someone who doesnt know what hes even bitching about.
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 04:36 [#00671844]
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the world is how it is because of us , and how we are it will enevr change because we are selfish and thats that.
it's a horrible world but get used to it because it will never ever ever change.don't focus on the crap stuff , focus on the good stuff like everything beautifull and music and other such things.
anon
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 04:40 [#00671851]
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aphextriplet,
That comment about assasination of the president, is that supposed to be funny?
This is just a plain old simple case of youth feeling disenfranchised with the world because they've got no specific direction, no vision and no goals. All this lies bullshit is just that; trust me as soon as politicians start telling (real) lies they'd be out on their earholes quicker than they could say 'I'm sorry'. So please lets get real. Lies is one thing, spin is another. And we are all capable of the later - so lets live in the real world eh.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-27 04:45 [#00671866]
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agreed....even if a little harsh
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-27 04:47 [#00671870]
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thanks, well I dont want to sound too harsh, without that sounding fucking silly because its the interent, but hey what the fuck huh.
either way, people arent going to help anyone else, and if so it doesnt work like that you have to want to be helped asking pointless questions in a manner like this just shows a useless and sad cry for attention, not help.
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 04:47 [#00671872]
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i wish i could word my thoguhts.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-27 04:57 [#00671896]
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its hard, i still cant do it well, comes out wrong.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 04:58 [#00671900]
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Big yawn. The world is fine. This is just the fear and axienties brought on by adulthood. The World is a nightmare if you live in Nigeria, Burma, Saudi Arabia or other shitted up countries. Those people would give someone bitching about living in the West a good slapping and say "wake up, you wanna have your limbs cut off, be in slavery or be in fear of your life!". Please, life is very sweet here. Its a sunny day, you've got your PC, your music, your games, you've got yummy food in the fridge, you've even got the lovely fresh air outside. Come on.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 05:01 [#00671906]
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anon,
Hey you could start by spelling thoughts correctly. Lol. ;-)
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 05:07 [#00671918]
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I could.Your right.
material possesions food and ''fresh'' air do not a happy person make.
and don't do that whole 'think yourself lucky , other people have crap lives where they dont know where their next meal is coming from' crap because you can't compare you life to others.
Your happieness is measured by your un-happyness. You can only be depressed if you have been estatic, If you've never been sad you'll never truely know what happy is.and vice versa.
anon
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-27 05:10 [#00671921]
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Switch off you PC...and go and explore that world outside.....its not all that bad!
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 05:12 [#00671926]
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True.
anon
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-04-27 05:12 [#00671927]
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dude...it's really the fact that you have too much insight (and expecting too much) about the world, since youre hooked up too a milliopn thoughts and oppinions (also called the internet).
Try to look past youre pc and television and find some inner values.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 05:24 [#00671951]
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anon,
Well sure that is logical. There is only a certain amount of serotonin (neurotransmitter) so once you get low on supplies I guess you become a little depressed.
However thats not really my point. People can actually choose to be depressed. If you're feeling down, just stuff laughing with someone or by yourself, it'll make you feel a hell of a lot better. Try it.
On the topic of material possessions. Try not to see material possessions as an entity in themselves. See them more a part of the overall overwhealming desire for the human mind to seek constant fresh and new stimulation and experiences; and possessions are just part of that experience. In essence possessions are if you like simply a conduit for the contact stimulation needs.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 05:27 [#00671953]
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Er I meant constant as oppose to contact. Duh.
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 05:39 [#00671980]
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that fact that i have a very low vocabulary prevents me from having a full understanding of your post.
meaning i have nothing to say.
-A-
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-04-27 05:47 [#00671991]
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It's not life that sux, it's the people. A bunny rabbit would never lie to you =op
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 05:48 [#00671994]
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lol , yes true.It isn't the world or living that bites its humans!!!
maybe killing everyone is the solution to life?
-A-
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nacmat
on 2003-04-27 05:56 [#00671999]
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sometimes I feel this way... but that takes me nowhere... the best one can do is work hard and try to be nice to people near you... live a honest life yourself and try to help as far a s you can.
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-04-27 06:08 [#00672026]
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The world could be seen from so many different angles, probably as many as there are people living in it. But...
I really think I understand what OK feels - I feel it too, and I'm 25 yrs old.
The thing is this: all posts here (almost) has taken the perspective of the ego, the individual, YOUR point of view - not really going through the effort of trying to put yourself in the shoes of those 15-18 year old kids that have now been inprisoned at Guantanamo bay for over a year without any charges or any trial. What makes a country, that claims to be "the brightes shining beacon for freedom and democracy in the world", do these kinds of awful things to children? Why don't we react? Why do we say - well, look outside! it's sunny and warm and ladida... ? There are big crimes being commited right now, as we speak here, but no one seems to be aware. Well this is partly because of the successful propaganda machine that has been in development over the years - even dating back to the 1800's and perhaps sooner. Average people, who perhaps watches the news once a day, wouldn't get to know about all the crimes that states like the USA are involved in because Pentagon won't tell you about them - and who sits at the Pentagon press briefings? The major news networks, and they simply repeat that: Pentagon officials today said that there is an imminent threat to our country right now and we have to be aware of this...bla bla bla..
Everything we get fed today should be questioned, especially what comes out of the American government propaganda machine because it affects ALL of us!
Lastly... Take your time and read these declassified top secret documents (only a few really) that outlines U.S. plans to CREATE excuses to attack Cuba in 1962, something which could have lead to nuclear war, and how they planned to achive this by lying to us.
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-04-27 06:09 [#00672028]
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Forgot the link... as usual:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 06:49 [#00672103]
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Very very big yawn.
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nacmat
on 2003-04-27 06:52 [#00672111]
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yawn?
or is it that you wanna stay blind?
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 06:54 [#00672113]
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And your point? History isn't perfect. If you probe enough you can find (supposed) fault in anything. You're just being utterly ridiculous, think about it. This bitching about Western civilisation is for saddoes. Go live in Africa. Stop shitting on your own doorstep its so boring!
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uzim
on 2003-04-27 07:10 [#00672139]
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the world is the world, life is life... you can't really describe them, you have nothing to compare them to really and you cannot know them fully either...
but i like the idea that we aren't in this forever - nothing is forever. and i like the fact that we aren't aware of everything all the time... thanks goodness for that... : )
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-27 07:13 [#00672143]
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you are damn right :)
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LuxExTenebris
from ehh... tenebris? (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 07:30 [#00672170]
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The only thing that can make us want living is inside us.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 07:34 [#00672177]
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LuxExTenebris,
If I understand you statement correctly, then its about one of the best on the board so far.
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LuxExTenebris
from ehh... tenebris? (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 07:47 [#00672210]
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Then I can conclude that you understand me correctly. Thanks. I'm not very good at expressing thoughts, but you seem to get this one.
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nacmat
on 2003-04-27 07:53 [#00672229]
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agree with your thoughts maybe but not with your yawning
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nacmat
on 2003-04-27 07:54 [#00672237]
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its just a matter of respect
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 07:56 [#00672244]
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nacmat,
This must be a first? :-)
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LuxExTenebris
from ehh... tenebris? (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 08:00 [#00672261]
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you're so rude Nacmat. You just made me cry for real :.((
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nacmat
on 2003-04-27 08:03 [#00672270]
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lol
I dont know... Its true that many times we dont agree but others I am sure we do
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 08:10 [#00672281]
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A day of amnesty. Lol.
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OK
on 2003-04-28 22:09 [#00675445]
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well sorry. i'd try to live in a bubble but i can't... i'm sorry that i read newspapers... sorry i noticed the lack of coherence in society..
sorry, i noticed that it doesn't have to be that way.
if you think think i live depressed all day because of all this well you obviously took me wrong... did I ever say there isn't anything worth living in the whole world or something like that?, i fact I never said unlike you that "the world is shit", well as i see it this comment from you portrys the world in a much more worse manner than i did... i said that the events happening in the world make me sick. and when i say i can't stand this anymore i mean i'm gonna take some serious action.
but all you've prove is to be pretty insensitive. but well what could one expect from somone who likes to gets off at videos of people getting killed and snuff stuff?..
maybe next time you want to bash someone try asking what he/shea meant and not try to assume the most lame thing that comes to your mind... wich gives me the idea that if you tought that first is because your mind is set on that kind of low level thinking. And i can only feel sorry for you.
what's stupid about my questions anyway .. could you point that out? more than questions they were reflections.. but you obviously didn't get it...
IT IS kinda stupid anyway... as values and moral are human creations but that's a whole other discussion. and i'm pretty certain you didn't say i'm stupid for this reason.. so i'll leave these toughts to myself. good luck
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mojogigolo
from Vic (Australia) on 2003-04-28 22:30 [#00675455]
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fight the power people. do it for me also cause im apathetic.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-28 22:32 [#00675460]
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*sings*
you say you want a revolution, well, you know... we'd all love to see the plan
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-28 22:39 [#00675473]
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the world makes me healthy
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-28 22:45 [#00675482]
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what can we do other than live honestly to ourself?
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