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Dnez
on 2003-04-26 12:00 [#00670419]
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huh
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-26 12:01 [#00670422]
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i doubt it, he probly has his own music progs written for him
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-04-26 12:01 [#00670423]
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no
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Dnez
on 2003-04-26 12:03 [#00670428]
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Rich writes his own code. Like e-labs?
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:04 [#00670434]
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no way, he wrote all his software himself
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:05 [#00670435]
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luke vibert does though
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-26 12:05 [#00670439]
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i know for rdj album he had software 'customised'
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:06 [#00670443]
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yes he wrote all the software for drukqs too.
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:08 [#00670450]
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i know this to be true by the way
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-26 12:08 [#00670451]
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really? i find that a little hard to beleve, but i dont know with him
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-26 12:11 [#00670462]
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Nonsense, I have produced stuff that is better than RDJ with using nothing but Reason. ;)
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nano
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2003-04-26 12:12 [#00670463]
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Do you mean that he actualy sat down and wrote all the software from scratch in a real programming language OR using something similar to max or pd och reaktor and created his software that way?
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-26 12:13 [#00670465]
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i'm guessing he'd like reaktor, looks like his sort of thing building synths from scratch, i can get my head round it myself
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:14 [#00670467]
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he WROTE the software from scratch, i know this to be true
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Dnez
on 2003-04-26 12:14 [#00670468]
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Yes i heard he write programs. elab
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:18 [#00670485]
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he wrote them using microsoft C++ built into a penguin framework.
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2003-04-26 12:19 [#00670487]
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cut the crap. this guy uses noisetracker on a AMIGA 1000 / 512K. This guy owns yu oll. include me.
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:20 [#00670492]
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LOL
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Dnez
on 2003-04-26 12:22 [#00670498]
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man i wish i had some pics to post I am a No photo kind of guy i have a funny pic of me at www.dnzmusic.com
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:24 [#00670507]
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thats ok dave
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-26 12:26 [#00670511]
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dnez
is that your studio at dnzmusic?
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Dnez
on 2003-04-26 12:28 [#00670516]
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ya u like
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-26 12:31 [#00670528]
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yeah i just cant afford all that, i especially like the jp8000, my fave synth i've played on
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patrik
from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 14:02 [#00670903]
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Ovuca/Astrobotnia/Aleksi told me he uses Logic Audio when I pointed to his iBook and asked him while he was doing his thang in Munich.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-26 14:03 [#00670907]
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How do you get Reason to not sound like Reason?
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-26 14:04 [#00670909]
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thats just a midi/audio sequencer tho, he'll use all sorts of crazy vsti's and such
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patrik
from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 14:08 [#00670921]
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well Ovuca live sounded like Ovuca on CD with the repeat button set to shuffle.
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2003-04-26 14:09 [#00670924]
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nice studio man.
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patrik
from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 14:09 [#00670926]
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whereas Richard Devine live is infinitely better than on CD.
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billabongbill
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-04-26 14:49 [#00671004]
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Catharsis: Don't use any of the sounds you get with Reason, import your own sounds and build your synth patches from scratch. Works for me anyway.
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 14:49 [#00671005]
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thats a load of shit man, he dosent write his own software blatantly. None of these guys do.
aphex just said that shit to look clever, bullshitting like he always does.
its no small task writing a fucking sequencer, takes a team of people years to do it
he may have made some MINOR mods, but thats about it .
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-26 14:52 [#00671007]
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i dont think anyone beleves he writes his own software, i heard he had programs modified or something, that was ages ago tho, around the time of rdj album
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more10
from Lkpg (Sweden) on 2003-04-26 14:59 [#00671016]
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I am pretty sure he still uses KYMA. Wicked system with outboard DSPs (check http://www.symbolicsound.com/brochure/index.html).
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-26 15:02 [#00671022]
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In any case, he has a sound palette unlike anything I have ever heard. At times it can be eerily human.
Thanks billabongbill - I'll try using my own synth patches when I'm not so goddamm lazy ;). Right now I just try to tweak the hell out of every patch I use. Put the effects modules to good use too.
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k9d
from mpls (United States) on 2003-04-26 16:58 [#00671199]
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being goddamnn lazy won't get you anywhere.
especially making anything other than cookie cutter music.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-04-26 17:03 [#00671213]
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Reason is crap...it is too constraining. I can't imagine in a million years he would use Reason for any of his good tracks.
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Skeptopotamus
from Home (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 17:22 [#00671253]
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Yup, Reason is not cut out for doing anything remotely 'IDM' (bleh, i hate using that term)
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billabongbill
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-04-27 08:50 [#00672369]
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In what way is in not cut out for "IDM"? I thought it would have been perfect for it. The synth on it is deadly, you can get loads of fucked up stuff from it. The drum machine is class too when you put your own sounds into it.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-04-27 12:09 [#00672752]
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richard does not use only software he wrote himself. he has acknowledged using recycle, and anyone with metasynth will recognize its characteristic sound on windowlicker. this claim that he uses only custom written software and nothing else is part of the aphex mythos.
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-27 12:11 [#00672756]
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yeah you can hear metasynth on windowlicker AND come to daddy
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-04-27 12:14 [#00672764]
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i have read that he uses software designed by a group of french scientists for audio - he has mentioned that he uses custom algorithms and equations to design sound
i am also aware that he uses many different vsts and such - but mostly custom designed software
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-27 12:15 [#00672766]
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meh, i disagree. maybe you just haven't figured out how to use it in a creative non-predictable way. not trying to insult your abilities or anything, but to pass on some sort of generalization about a decent audio program is really silly - it's really up to the individual to decide how to use the program in an interesting way, not the other way around...
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subdeatechate
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-04-27 12:39 [#00672820]
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I heard he did a dance over a bowl of beans and rice and turned it into a new console just for fast crazy beats. He doesn't need Reason when he has magical tap dancing feet. I think my electronic career is going to have to mature a lot before I can dance out a program to work with.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-27 12:45 [#00672834]
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Probably not.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 16:22 [#00673235]
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I've seen in an interview from some other musician (the name escapes me, look at the Afx interviews links page) that it's all bullshit and he doesn't make his own synths OR write his own programmes either. And who needs to when you have flexible sequencers like Logic/Sonar/Pro Tools etc?
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-04-27 16:46 [#00673261]
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As a software engineer I very much doubt that someone (even rich) could just teach himself C++ and code something as complex as a synth system etc.. just like that. I mean that would be like the equivalent of John Carmack. He may be self taught but it took him a looonngg time plus things evolved at the same time as John (which makes it easier as it's easier to inovate on top of stuff 50% of which *you* came up with in the first place). I'm sorry I don't buy into this "wrote his own software from scratch" myth. It sounds too much like the rest of the crap that circulates about rich, designed purely to give fan-boys hard-ons. He probably modified something and got at lot of people online to help him. But anyway who gives a shit? His music is great so who cares how he makes it. Don't give me the "other music makers care" crap either. If you want to be like rdj them imitating him (by trying to use the same software or follow the same path as him) is the worst thing you could do. Follow your own path in your own time...
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-27 16:48 [#00673262]
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bravo
using the same software/hardware as someone is pretty pointless, you use what your best at using otherwise your music suffers
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-04-27 16:56 [#00673267]
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Just out of interest, exactly how much of my stuff have you actually listened to? My comment was a personal opinion and I stand by it, Reason is a very limited package by itself...OK if you use rewire to take it to Cubase then it opens up the possibilities right up...but as a stand alone product I get frustrated with how confind it is, and there is a lot better out their for a professional musician who has a bit of money to spend.
It is getting better with each release though :D
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-27 17:04 [#00673275]
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Yep, I'm with you on that one... don't get me wrong, Reason is very good at what it sets out to do (making a good emulation of hardware with a focus on creation of mainstream house/dance/DnB). I think the modules that are in Reason are very good but not being able to use VSTs (without rewiring it into a sequencer) is a bitch.
And no, I don't think AFX uses his own software either. I can believe he may of made his own plugins perhaps, but why would you need to write your own sequencer?
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-27 17:07 [#00673282]
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like i said, i never stated that any of your own specific music was 'crap' per se, as i have not listened to any of it. but the way you said what you said came off as some sort of overgeneralized comment, rather than just an 'opinion'.
sorry, maybe im just picky about syntax and semantics :)
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