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U think Richard uses Reason Propellerheads?
 

offline Dnez on 2003-04-26 12:00 [#00670419]
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huh


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-26 12:01 [#00670422]
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i doubt it, he probly has his own music progs written for
him


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-04-26 12:01 [#00670423]
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no


 

offline Dnez on 2003-04-26 12:03 [#00670428]
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Rich writes his own code.
Like e-labs?


 

offline aFecks on 2003-04-26 12:04 [#00670434]
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no way, he wrote all his software himself


 

offline aFecks on 2003-04-26 12:05 [#00670435]
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luke vibert does though


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-26 12:05 [#00670439]
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i know for rdj album he had software 'customised'


 

offline aFecks on 2003-04-26 12:06 [#00670443]
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yes he wrote all the software for drukqs too.


 

offline aFecks on 2003-04-26 12:08 [#00670450]
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i know this to be true by the way


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-26 12:08 [#00670451]
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really? i find that a little hard to beleve, but i dont know
with him


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-26 12:11 [#00670462]
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Nonsense, I have produced stuff that is better than RDJ with
using nothing but Reason. ;)


 

offline nano from Malmö (Sweden) on 2003-04-26 12:12 [#00670463]
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Do you mean that he actualy sat down and wrote all the
software from scratch in a real programming language OR
using something similar to max or pd och reaktor and created
his software that way?


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-26 12:13 [#00670465]
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i'm guessing he'd like reaktor, looks like his sort of thing
building synths from scratch, i can get my head round it
myself


 

offline aFecks on 2003-04-26 12:14 [#00670467]
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he WROTE the software from scratch, i know this to be true


 

offline Dnez on 2003-04-26 12:14 [#00670468]
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Yes i heard he write programs. elab



 

offline aFecks on 2003-04-26 12:18 [#00670485]
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he wrote them using microsoft C++ built into a penguin
framework.


 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2003-04-26 12:19 [#00670487]
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cut the crap.
this guy uses noisetracker on a AMIGA 1000 / 512K.
This guy owns yu oll.
include me.


 

offline aFecks on 2003-04-26 12:20 [#00670492]
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LOL


 

offline Dnez on 2003-04-26 12:22 [#00670498]
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man i wish i had some pics to post
I am a No photo kind of guy
i have a funny pic of me at
www.dnzmusic.com


 

offline aFecks on 2003-04-26 12:24 [#00670507]
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thats ok dave


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-26 12:26 [#00670511]
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dnez

is that your studio at dnzmusic?


 

offline Dnez on 2003-04-26 12:28 [#00670516]
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ya u like


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-26 12:31 [#00670528]
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yeah i just cant afford all that, i especially like the
jp8000, my fave synth i've played on


 

offline patrik from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 14:02 [#00670903]
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Ovuca/Astrobotnia/Aleksi told me he uses Logic Audio when I
pointed to his iBook and asked him while he was doing his
thang in Munich.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-26 14:03 [#00670907]
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How do you get Reason to not sound like Reason?


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-26 14:04 [#00670909]
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thats just a midi/audio sequencer tho, he'll use all sorts
of crazy vsti's and such


 

offline patrik from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 14:08 [#00670921]
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well Ovuca live sounded like Ovuca on CD with the repeat
button set to shuffle.


 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2003-04-26 14:09 [#00670924]
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nice studio man.


 

offline patrik from Keele (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 14:09 [#00670926]
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whereas Richard Devine live is infinitely better than on CD.


 

offline billabongbill from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-04-26 14:49 [#00671004]
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Catharsis: Don't use any of the sounds you get with Reason,
import your own sounds and build your synth patches from
scratch. Works for me anyway.


 

offline grinningcat from london (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 14:49 [#00671005]
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thats a load of shit man, he dosent write his own software
blatantly. None of these guys do.

aphex just said that shit to look clever, bullshitting like
he always does.

its no small task writing a fucking sequencer, takes a team
of people years to do it

he may have made some MINOR mods, but thats about it .


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-26 14:52 [#00671007]
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i dont think anyone beleves he writes his own software, i
heard he had programs modified or something, that was ages
ago tho, around the time of rdj album


 

offline more10 from Lkpg (Sweden) on 2003-04-26 14:59 [#00671016]
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I am pretty sure he still uses KYMA. Wicked system with
outboard DSPs (check
http://www.symbolicsound.com/brochure/index.html).


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-26 15:02 [#00671022]
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In any case, he has a sound palette unlike anything I have
ever heard. At times it can be eerily human.

Thanks billabongbill - I'll try using my own synth patches
when I'm not so goddamm lazy ;). Right now I just try to
tweak the hell out of every patch I use. Put the effects
modules to good use too.


 

offline k9d from mpls (United States) on 2003-04-26 16:58 [#00671199]
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being goddamnn lazy won't get you anywhere.

especially making anything other than cookie cutter music.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-04-26 17:03 [#00671213]
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Reason is crap...it is too constraining. I can't imagine in
a million years he would use Reason for any of his good
tracks.



 

offline Skeptopotamus from Home (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 17:22 [#00671253]
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Yup, Reason is not cut out for doing anything remotely 'IDM'
(bleh, i hate using that term)


 

offline billabongbill from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-04-27 08:50 [#00672369]
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In what way is in not cut out for "IDM"? I thought it would
have been perfect for it. The synth on it is deadly, you can
get loads of fucked up stuff from it. The drum machine is
class too when you put your own sounds into it.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-04-27 12:09 [#00672752]
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richard does not use only software he wrote himself. he has
acknowledged using recycle, and anyone with metasynth will
recognize its characteristic sound on windowlicker. this
claim that he uses only custom written software and nothing
else is part of the aphex mythos.


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-27 12:11 [#00672756]
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yeah you can hear metasynth on windowlicker AND come to
daddy


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-04-27 12:14 [#00672764]
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i have read that he uses software designed by a group of
french scientists for audio - he has mentioned that he uses
custom algorithms and equations to design sound

i am also aware that he uses many different vsts and such -
but mostly custom designed software


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-27 12:15 [#00672766]
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meh, i disagree. maybe you just haven't figured out how to
use it in a creative non-predictable way. not trying to
insult your abilities or anything, but to pass on some sort
of generalization about a decent audio program is really
silly - it's really up to the individual to decide how to
use the program in an interesting way, not the other way
around...


 

offline subdeatechate from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-04-27 12:39 [#00672820]
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I heard he did a dance over a bowl of beans and rice and
turned it into a new console just for fast crazy beats. He
doesn't need Reason when he has magical tap dancing feet. I
think my electronic career is going to have to mature a lot
before I can dance out a program to work with.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-27 12:45 [#00672834]
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Probably not.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 16:22 [#00673235]
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I've seen in an interview from some other musician (the name
escapes me, look at the Afx interviews links page) that it's
all bullshit and he doesn't make his own synths OR write his
own programmes either. And who needs to when you have
flexible sequencers like Logic/Sonar/Pro Tools etc?


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2003-04-27 16:46 [#00673261]
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As a software engineer I very much doubt that someone
(even rich) could just teach himself C++ and code something
as complex as a synth system etc.. just like that. I mean
that would be like the equivalent of John Carmack. He may be
self taught but it took him a looonngg time plus things
evolved at the same time as John (which makes it easier as
it's easier to inovate on top of stuff 50% of which *you*
came up with in the first place). I'm sorry I don't buy into
this "wrote his own software from scratch" myth. It sounds
too much like the rest of the crap that circulates about
rich, designed purely to give fan-boys hard-ons. He probably
modified something and got at lot of people online to help
him. But anyway who gives a shit? His music is great so who
cares how he makes it. Don't give me the "other music makers
care" crap either. If you want to be like rdj them imitating
him (by trying to use the same software or follow the same
path as him) is the worst thing you could do. Follow your
own path in your own time...


 

offline Spacecadet on 2003-04-27 16:48 [#00673262]
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bravo

using the same software/hardware as someone is pretty
pointless, you use what your best at using otherwise your
music suffers


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-04-27 16:56 [#00673267]
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Just out of interest, exactly how much of my stuff have you
actually listened to? My comment was a personal opinion and
I stand by it, Reason is a very limited package by
itself...OK if you use rewire to take it to Cubase then it
opens up the possibilities right up...but as a stand alone
product I get frustrated with how confind it is, and there
is a lot better out their for a professional musician who
has a bit of money to spend.

It is getting better with each release though :D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-27 17:04 [#00673275]
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Yep, I'm with you on that one... don't get me wrong, Reason
is very good at what it sets out to do (making a good
emulation of hardware with a focus on creation of mainstream
house/dance/DnB). I think the modules that are in Reason are
very good but not being able to use VSTs (without rewiring
it into a sequencer) is a bitch.

And no, I don't think AFX uses his own software either. I
can believe he may of made his own plugins perhaps, but why
would you need to write your own sequencer?


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-27 17:07 [#00673282]
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like i said, i never stated that any of your own specific
music was 'crap' per se, as i have not listened to any of
it. but the way you said what you said came off as some sort
of overgeneralized comment, rather than just an 'opinion'.

sorry, maybe im just picky about syntax and semantics :)


 


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