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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-04-25 22:46 [#00669487]
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i just dled it. what does the .nu crew think of it?
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-04-25 22:56 [#00669490]
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I'll have to listen to it more to have an opinion.
doesnt it rain 6 months out of year in Washington?
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-04-25 22:58 [#00669491]
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but the honestly honesty whatever is not my thing, Corgan looks like hes a bitch, he was an god and now singing these cute little melodies and shit!
He was anti poppy music and now look at him ...zwan what kind of crap is that.
YOU LEFT PUMPKINS FOR THIS?!?!
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mimi
on 2003-04-26 00:43 [#00669555]
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hmm when was billy corgan anti pop music? i was under the impression after hearing siamese dream and melancholy and the infinite sadness that that was his main game.
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Spaced
from Mars (United States) on 2003-04-26 01:38 [#00669584]
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zwan rocks, but the non album material is best...stop judging on singles alone!
billy is god
still
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Verkrampte
from Renton (United States) on 2003-04-26 01:41 [#00669586]
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uhh i hate both Zwan and Smashing Pumpkins... not my cup of tea... not even close
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-04-26 01:47 [#00669590]
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could you give me some examples of the "non material" works?
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-04-26 01:48 [#00669591]
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what about paz lechen whoever...i know she left APC to join zwan...what the hell happened there?
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-04-26 01:52 [#00669592]
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zwan blows.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-04-26 01:56 [#00669593]
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isn't that ron jeremy's dept.? <-!!!!now that sounds like a band!
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-04-26 02:00 [#00669594]
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nyuk nyuk.
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Spaced
from Mars (United States) on 2003-04-26 02:17 [#00669599]
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well i'll say this, if you like it great if you don't whatever...to each his own they say...
but if you want non album material go to poetsofzwan.com for some kickass live stuff from different points in the full year they were a band before the record came out...
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Verkrampte
from Renton (United States) on 2003-04-26 02:18 [#00669600]
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meh.. their just like.. eck
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mojogigolo
from Vic (Australia) on 2003-04-26 04:28 [#00669682]
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zwan are ok, i still like oldschool pumpkins better.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 04:34 [#00669689]
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crap
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-26 04:48 [#00669715]
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i find myself skipping to jesus i on the rare occasions that i actually put the album on. it's the only interesting track. maybe desire too.
what's wrong with billy? he said he was going to have fun with this new band but instead of doing something interesting he comes up with the most commercial shite he's made since 1979... dying for that one hitsingle, prolly. it's a shame. it's low brow poprock. but i still like most of it, curiously.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-26 08:55 [#00669918]
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well, I haven't listened to the album, but I have no desire to... I never really liked Billy Corgans music...
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-04-26 09:01 [#00669929]
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i think that zwan's popularity is thanks to a large group of people who won't let go of the smashing pumpkins and will grab on to anything involving billy corgan that they can.
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GIR
from Easton on 2003-04-26 10:45 [#00670166]
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its not the same as smashing pumpkins, and thats the problem most people have...they buy it expecting to hear another pumpkins cd, which isnt the case at all..and i dont recall corgan ever saying he was anti-pop
frankly, i like this album a lot....the album tracks like el sol, and of a broken heart are great lyrically, and melodically...just because something is upbeat from someone who was once downbeat doesnt mean you have to hate it.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-26 12:10 [#00670460]
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i have no problem whatsoever with upbeat music, and billy's lyrics have never been of great standards, but this album is, well, boring. i loved it the first time i listened to it, that was a sign, unfortunately.
there's nothing left to explore after a few listens. which isn't bad. i like depth in music, but the occasional summer album is fine.
still, i was hoping billy would be doing doing grander things though. especially considering david pajo is involved.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-26 12:17 [#00670479]
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*plop*
*fluuuush*
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-26 12:17 [#00670481]
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check out pajo's back catalogue of bands and releases, blows anything corgan ever did away.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-26 12:30 [#00670523]
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that's my point :)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-26 12:32 [#00670532]
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slint - spiderland tortoise - any, but the best are 'millions now living will never die' and 'stabdards'
papa m/aerial m/m - whatever, mortal m is... october
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-26 12:33 [#00670538]
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Very... average. Doomed to be in the Pumpkins' shadow even if they WERE great. Which they aren't.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-26 12:36 [#00670545]
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yes! i'm saying i agree with you~!! :D
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-26 12:38 [#00670606]
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i know, im just illuminating your point, netlon. :)
some people havent heard the good word on pajo, or as i like to refer to him "the better half of zwan".
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-04-26 12:45 [#00670636]
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billy corgan is not a very good singer either
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-04-26 13:00 [#00670669]
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I'm not judging on singles alone, I said I didnt like the single but I'm not goint to base an opinion when I havent heard the album you assrag
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GIR
from Easton on 2003-04-26 13:46 [#00670847]
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i cant say i prefer most of the "math rock" scene...slint had some decent tracks on it...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-26 13:47 [#00670850]
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bah!
DON CABALLERO OWNZ JOO!
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damion
from Auckland (New Zealand) on 2003-04-26 16:50 [#00671172]
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The albulm kicks ass! but its not zwans best stuff the dvd which came with the albulm had far better songs on it
They are awsome live also anyone heard much of Matt Sweenys stuff??
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 16:53 [#00671182]
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pumpkins were overrated. Sure they have some awesome songs, but they also have some godawful ones. Another case of crap music masked by reputation
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maxx_damage
from La Paz (Bolivia) on 2003-04-26 17:24 [#00671261]
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Corgan died.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-04-26 18:37 [#00671362]
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Zwan sucks big time. Smashing Pumpkins was way fucking better.
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electro
from detroit on 2003-04-26 22:29 [#00671573]
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i liked the album it is smashing pumpkinesh billy corgan still manipulate the whole thing i liked it cause i needed more smashing pumpkin and zwan had what i need
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