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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 05:14 [#00668089]
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Now, in the Uk you get charrged forr trreatment in the A&E.
I neverr new this. My cousin was ill she went in and got billed.
Unless you don't have a job and don't pay taxes in which case you don't have to pay, we will do that forr you.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-25 05:16 [#00668095]
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what's A&E?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 05:17 [#00668097]
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accident and emerrgency
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-25 05:18 [#00668098]
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YOU JUST PASSED 4000!!
congrats :)
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 05:19 [#00668099]
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i may have some of my facts wrrong therre, i'm just angrry. but hell, whats it coming to. my dentist is going prrivate aswell, i was therre yesterrday, so morre money.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-25 05:20 [#00668101]
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sorry for being off topic...
insurance/medical care prices suck... it all seems to fuck up lately
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-25 05:20 [#00668102]
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aah sucks indeed that you have to pay yourself :\
JAroen: bedankt :) i'll try to reach 10000 before nacmat does .. eh. no
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 05:21 [#00668104]
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You're fucking kidding me? That's ridiculous. This country is fucked. The more tax you pay the more you have to pay for services that your tax has already paid for. I fucking hate it. I'm going into exile.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-04-25 05:23 [#00668111]
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Then do it.
Get the fuck out.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 05:25 [#00668118]
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Thats the thing isn't it, taxes arre going up and up and what arre we getting forr it, less and less.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 05:27 [#00668122]
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I am going to get the fuck out. As soon as possible.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 05:28 [#00668127]
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This is really getting me pissed off. With the elections coming up as well I can't see a change in government being any better than keeping the current one. They're all fucking shit!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 05:29 [#00668131]
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FRREE MARRKET'S
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-25 05:29 [#00668133]
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I think that's probably because people abuse the service... when they need to pay they'll think twice before going there so the services become less "stressed". Is that the principle behind this rule?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 05:32 [#00668139]
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its not on. its just not.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 05:35 [#00668145]
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Well that'd be a small minority and causing the majority trouble is not going to help. I haven't been to Casualty in years and the last time I did was when my Gran fell over and broke her arm causing her to have an Angine attack. Before that was when I nearly broke my ankle. I've paid so much fucking tax in the past couple of years and I don't receive a fucking thing from it. I don't go to the doctors, I don't go to hospital (apart from the one I work in)I don't claim any benefits.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-04-25 05:40 [#00668153]
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Which is why if anything medical is wrong with me I'm crossing that fucking channel in a eye-blink. France's health system make the UK look like the middle ages.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-04-25 05:46 [#00668161]
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I mean, for crying out loud, the nhs were sending patients overseas to be dealt with not so long ago. When are people in this country going to wake up, see what shit public services they have (transport: we don't even have a fast train network yet as opposed to most of the rest of europe. 8-10 hours to glasgow from london is NOT acceptable. health. education...) and make a REAL fuss?
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-25 05:57 [#00668176]
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I think the most important problem in the public services(at least in my country) is people's mentality. For a social system you need social people and not lazy bureaucrats and abuse of social service.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-25 05:59 [#00668181]
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that's sounds just like my country ;)
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 07:15 [#00668285]
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I agrree completely with you therre, its not on.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 07:24 [#00668295]
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This country is going down the fucking drain and needs to spend money to sort it out but it's too busy spending money elsewhere where it doesn't need to. Housing people who don't deserve it in 5 Bedroomed houses and giving them more luxury than is sensible. I can't belive the way this country is going. I don't pay tax to see it squandered in the way it is. I'm fucking ashamed to ay i'm english really. Fuck this country. It's fucked up.
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AE_King
from Australia on 2003-04-25 07:26 [#00668301]
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come to australia mate, and chuck a prawn on zee barbie! :P
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 07:28 [#00668302]
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Australia is on my list of countries to investigate emigrating too actually. I know a couple of people out there already one of whom I went to school with and the other I worked with. They love the place and I can't wait to get out there myself and investigate. I was hoping to go this year but I can't :(
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 07:28 [#00668303]
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no one will apprressiate yourr views though, i do, but otherrs won't.
its the rregularr people in this countrry the harrd worrkerrs who sufferr. Labourr govt. - whateverr. New labourr can suck my cock.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-25 07:29 [#00668305]
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believe me, the Dutch transport services are 1000x better than the English ones.
when my aunt from England comes over to visit my mother, she is always surprised how clean our trains are and how they ride on time.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 07:31 [#00668309]
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My sentiments exactly.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-25 07:34 [#00668316]
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riooooooooot!!!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-25 07:35 [#00668318]
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yeah qrter, i agree we shouldn't complain
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 07:35 [#00668321]
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May 1st is coming up soon..... >=-)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-04-25 07:39 [#00668328]
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I can't stand greedy people... no matter what make them greedy.
Society has never worked, and will never work - unless we change it radically.
especially when there's "money" involved.
Many parts of the A&E-industry has been greedy for the past 50 years or so. No medical resarch is done unless you can profit from it.
I don't even take drugs anymore, when I'm sick. wait... I don't even get sick anymore =)
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-04-25 10:13 [#00668520]
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Everywhere I've been transport is always better than the UK. France's transport is great. Late trains are very rare and you can get from Paris to Marseille in under 4 hours easy. Barcellona's metro seems efficient and very clean. German trains seemed good from what I remember but in whenever I get on a train in the UK I know something is going to go wrong or too slowly and it always does. :(
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-04-25 10:24 [#00668530]
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We're in a country which supposedly includes the financial capital of Europe. London is also in the London-Paris-NewYork triad which form the world's cultural centres. So what the fuck is going on? Where does all the dough go? Why do the people keep voting for Torries and NewLabour (not like there's much of a difference)? The standard english atitude is to point at some random country (any country, although usually France,USA and germany) and make fun of them and critisise as much as possible. Fine you stupid ignorant fuckers, you do that, it's not like they give a damn about us anyway and their standard of living is miles higher than ours. I'm not talking about TVs and sports cars either. I'm talking about things that *really* matter like quality of food and public services like health, transport and education.
Whenever I switch on the TV over here I'm confronted with the british institutionalised racism. I can't go for more than half an hour without some form of media making some form of fucking petty remark about another country. I lived in France for over 9 years in total and I could count the number of instances of such petty racism with the fingers on one hand. WAKE UP. Look at the tip we live in before you go pointing fingers.
Grrr.
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listentoparka
from Fisherman's Cove (United States) on 2003-04-25 12:47 [#00668724]
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europe sucks.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-25 12:49 [#00668728]
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nice av
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 12:53 [#00668734]
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i totally agree with you on those points - hence why i'm trying to go to canada - sars or not
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-04-25 12:58 [#00668740]
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that can't be true - check your facts
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Donutman
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-04-25 13:08 [#00668761]
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As for the previous point about Australia, don't bother. It will all be screwed up by the time you get here.
The neo-liberals are running this country at the moment, and it's all going to be corporatised by the time that they're through.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 13:40 [#00668809]
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Amen to that, TonyFish.
Nice rant.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 13:51 [#00668822]
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my cousin was billed and i have also found out that my grrandparrents werre billed afterr they werre in a crrash, but theirr insurrance paid.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 13:56 [#00668829]
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There are no charges for A&E in the UK. If there were it would be massive, massive news.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 13:59 [#00668837]
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look people it happened, i neverr drreamed this up, its rreal.
i don't know if everryone has to pay forr everry prroblem, i don't know, but so farr 3 people in my family have been.
Maybe its just my hospital.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 14:03 [#00668844]
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I'm not denying it happened, though I think there must be some unusual circumstances that led to a charge being levied.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 14:04 [#00668847]
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As one example, there's a law that allows the NHS to charge you for your treatment if you're in a road accident and subsequently receive compensation.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-25 14:06 [#00668850]
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well the policy is if its an accident, you pay. we don't know why my cousin had to pay.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 14:30 [#00668902]
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Which hospital is it?
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