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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-24 06:15 [#00666408]
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Pitchfork Review
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hobbes
from age on 2003-04-24 06:16 [#00666412]
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oh dear......
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-24 06:16 [#00666414]
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i cant believe anyone here actually visited pitchfork...
fucking gonzo journalists
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 06:17 [#00666415]
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LOL it should be 11/10 its such a work of genious, all fans will grow to love it
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 06:18 [#00666416]
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o
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-24 06:18 [#00666417]
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while you're at it check their Aphex Twin - "7.7 Mixes For Cash" review. ;)
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-04-24 06:19 [#00666419]
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Well, that's Pitchfork, what did you expect ?
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 06:19 [#00666421]
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"ultimately uninspiring music"
what does he kno?
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-24 06:21 [#00666424]
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well it certainly isnt their best album.. I dont think it's a 6.2 though
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 06:21 [#00666425]
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shit, maybe he's right. Maybe I've been fooled into believing autechre were great, when in reality they are washed out?
nah... autechre are the kings of IDM
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 06:25 [#00666427]
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Most hilarious is what he does to millionaire simp Trent Reznor. Paid absurd amounts in an attempt to remix Nine Inch Nails and soup up his stuff with that Aphex action, James leaves the odious source tapes unheard on "The Beauty of Being Numb Section B", opting for something equally obnoxious. Meandering on the keyboards for the first half of the song, he then decides to blow through a straw uninterestedly and cut up some wide-mouthed yawns for the remainder. Not exactly a great track, but apropos for the wretched artist in question. "At the Heart of It All" is similarly lethargic and half-assed, sounding like he slowed "Ventolin" down to 16 RPM and then poured on some slowly heaving, molasses-thick brass.
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 06:25 [#00666428]
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oops above is the pitfork review of afx 26 remixes
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-04-24 06:26 [#00666431]
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I even think that it's a quite good review considering it's from Pitchfork... No insult, no xenophobic comment, a bit of objectivity...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-24 06:29 [#00666436]
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yeah... have anyone of you read the review from 'royal astronomy'?
unbelievable how they slag that off
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-04-24 06:32 [#00666445]
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°_° am i dreaming or does he belive afx did the first part of the beauty of being numb...(?)
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-24 06:33 [#00666446]
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he then decides to blow through a straw uninterestedly and cut up some wide-mouthed yawns for the remainder.
that is from the original nine inch nails song.. that's trent reznor doing that
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-04-24 06:33 [#00666447]
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"This album is boring as shit."
Ha !
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occfactor
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-04-24 06:44 [#00666456]
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I don't think shit is boring...
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 06:57 [#00666461]
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the Draft review is written by the same reviewer that gave DYKS? a 4.8.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 07:03 [#00666463]
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Seems fair to me.
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 07:12 [#00666471]
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sometimes I wish people would review albums soley on the music. forget about the cultural importance, and where it fits in with the scene and where it is evolving to. just lie back and let the beats of Xylin Room pummel into your brain.
Im not talking about the Draft review or Pitchfork, just in general
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-24 07:13 [#00666472]
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But surely everyone agrees that early Autechre is better than later? No...?
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 07:16 [#00666476]
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thats true
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-24 07:24 [#00666489]
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It's mostly different. And who likes what best depends on tastes. I can't tell you what I like best.
If you put on Draft, Gantz of Confield in your record player right after incunabula you can hardly imagine it's the same 2 persons who made this.
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-24 07:31 [#00666503]
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Yeah agreed, but IMHO it's a strange human indeed who prefers clanking to beauty! ;-)
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 07:32 [#00666505]
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yes we like order not chaos
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-24 07:35 [#00666512]
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Goz Quarter (or is it 902 Quarter?) :-) rocks my world...
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 07:39 [#00666518]
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:)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-24 08:14 [#00666543]
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now, now... one mustn't be too critical of pitchfork... they are one of the most viable critical sources out there... and although they've fucked up a lot of warp reviews lately, this one included, in a lot of cases i can understand how they give out the ratings they do... i know that many people here would've given Draft a much lower score than Leone gave it... i have to say though, Leone is quickly becoming one of my least favourite reviewers on the site... she, and a lot of the "rock" critics, have this ridiculous double standard where they expect particular electronic artists to reinvent the fucking wheel every time around, while they think it's cool that the vast majority of rock bands have done anything new in years... i don't trust their electronic reviews unless they're in the hands of Mark Martelli, or Mark Richardson... and Andy Beta's okay...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-24 08:24 [#00666549]
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I do believe Pitchfork gave confield an 8.8 though, that's good...
anyways, my only beef with reviews is that it's only the reviewers opinions, yet they state them as if it's the way things are... for instance, he said Draft 7.30 is uninspiring music or something... to him maybe, to me it sounds great and all that... I feel I'm open with my opinions about music here, but I always try to make it clear that it's just my opinion... I hate that about music reviews, how they seem to think their own opinion is the one that matters...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-24 08:27 [#00666554]
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Leone clearly misses the point of recent autechre... i can't understand why she was assigned it in the first place... the way she talks about Confield... i really pity her lack of perception
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nacmat
on 2003-04-24 08:30 [#00666556]
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its too soon to review an album
look at the way confield changed in most of people´s minds after 6 months
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nacmat
on 2003-04-24 08:31 [#00666558]
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reviews should be forbidden till 6 moths after the release
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-25 02:09 [#00667841]
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But surely all reviews are opinions, non? They don't need to write "but that's just my opinion" all the time, I kind of take that as read! :-)
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aFecks
on 2003-04-25 02:44 [#00667890]
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well said merg, some people take things too personal, its her opinion, shes not attacking your opinion funkmaster
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blrr
from the block on 2003-04-25 03:02 [#00667928]
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i prefer new AE.
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aFecks
on 2003-04-25 03:04 [#00667935]
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joyrex (from watmm.com) says he thinks autechre post-confield are boring
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blrr
from the block on 2003-04-25 03:06 [#00667941]
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i would include Confield in 'new AE'
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-25 03:07 [#00667943]
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I think the complete opposite. I think they've really shown who they are and the artistry they possess w/ their newer work.. anyone could have pulled off their work previous to the confield era
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aFecks
on 2003-04-25 03:08 [#00667946]
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well thats not what i think, this is joyrex, dont you understand? i think his views on this hold a lot more water than yours
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blrr
from the block on 2003-04-25 03:10 [#00667948]
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why do you really care what Joyrex thinks... are you incapable of independent thought?
Old AE is not all that amazing (some of it). Incunabula as is really cheesey, for example.
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blrr
from the block on 2003-04-25 03:10 [#00667949]
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why do joyrex's views 'hold a lot more water'? ?!?!?!?!?
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aFecks
on 2003-04-25 03:10 [#00667950]
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well joyrex knows best about this sort of thing really
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aFecks
on 2003-04-25 03:11 [#00667951]
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he's known IDM for much longer than any of us lot
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blrr
from the block on 2003-04-25 03:12 [#00667952]
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huh... you're really joyrex right?
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blrr
from the block on 2003-04-25 03:13 [#00667953]
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um... so he's been listening to it for longer. makes his opinion more valid. makes him an intelligent person. means he knows what he's talking about.... try thinking for yourself.
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aFecks
on 2003-04-25 03:14 [#00667954]
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do you even know who joyrex is?
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blrr
from the block on 2003-04-25 03:15 [#00667956]
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yes I know who Joyrex is.... for fucks sake you sound like some awe-consumed teenage girl at a n'sync concert or something.
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aFecks
on 2003-04-25 03:20 [#00667958]
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im telling my mommy
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-25 05:48 [#00668165]
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Interesting that she only got as far as surripere. Didn't give it much of a chance. I mean it's not obvious music.
You can never "get" autechre by listening to it once and concentrating. You have to listen ten times without paying attention, then the eleventh time or twentieth time maybe you look at a coffee cup with a weird colorful pattern of cats holding umbrellas and that is the dust-seed around which the track's logic crystallizes. And then it's so beautiful it takes your breath away.
I think I got some more of draft 7.30 this morning. Not all of it mind you. There will be many other mornings with other coffee cups.
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