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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-04-24 05:54 [#00666347]
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I was wondering why everybody is always talking about autechre.
Just opinion, of course, but i hate Ae so much, aaaaaaarrrhhh, whooooaaaaaaa!!!
they are ways overrated. Who can't get into AE too?
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-04-24 05:56 [#00666353]
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i never liked ae until probably 8 or 9 months ago i dont know. i was just listening to ep7 one night and it suddenly clicked.
i'm still not the biggest ae fan though, got 2 of their albums and some mp3s
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hobbes
from age on 2003-04-24 05:56 [#00666356]
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my little sister...though she s starting....
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-04-24 05:56 [#00666358]
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you hate them?! i don't hate any form of idm, but i don't like ae too much. i wouldn't say that's a solid opinion cuz i haven't heard much by them. maybe you have listened to enough music by them. i used to feel that way about plaid but then i actually listened to them and now i luv plaid.
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nacmat
on 2003-04-24 05:57 [#00666361]
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I love them... iv got like 95% of what is available on cd... and I would love to have lot more
none of their releases has ever dissapointed me
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 05:58 [#00666363]
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just keep trying, eventually their genious will dawn on you - you arent listening to them properly
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-04-24 05:59 [#00666369]
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i hope ur being sarcastic
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lizardfister
from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 05:59 [#00666371]
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NeoExmnist - understand totally what you mean about plaid.
i feel ae have lost their way somewhat and are trying too hard now. its happening with gescom too. imho
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-04-24 05:59 [#00666373]
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If you hate Ae, you hate yourself
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 06:01 [#00666377]
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no, if you dont like autechre, the only reason can be is that you are not listening fully to them - give them a few more listens and you will fall in love with their genious
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-24 06:01 [#00666378]
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i dont hate the sound of otherworldly things breaking apart without coherence... but i never play it for fun
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 06:01 [#00666379]
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too true
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 06:03 [#00666388]
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i dont understand?
anyhow, anyone who hate autechre just has no understanding of how far out they really are
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-24 06:05 [#00666390]
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i dont hate em, but if i want to hear that noise i just stick my head in the dishwasher
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lizardfister
from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 06:06 [#00666393]
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i don't hate ae. i just don't get the later stuff as much as the early stuff and because partly of laziness on my part i can't be arsed to put the time in to get it because i'm not sure its going to be worth it.
i still have heaps of respect for them.
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 06:06 [#00666396]
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LOL - you will learn to love them one day
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lizardfister
from rainy manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 06:07 [#00666397]
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and gescom (normally) kick bum.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-04-24 06:12 [#00666406]
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i hated ae because i had such high expectations of them, and when i got a few albums i was very disappointed. but the people here are right, it is the kind of music that takes time to grow on you.....its not as repetetive as i thought on first listen, its just a load of subtle changes....
on the other hand, people told me i would get into squarepusher and i still think he is total shit, so i respect your opinion if say you will never like ae....
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-24 06:15 [#00666409]
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i hope so .... i play them sometimes but it hasnt grown on me yet..
and bob: shut the fuck up you... sp is the fucking daddy
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 06:15 [#00666410]
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i don't love ae. i don't hate ae.
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uzim
on 2003-04-24 06:25 [#00666429]
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"If you hate Ae, you hate yourself"
> lo!! whatever... ^^; everyone has its own taste, can't you understand that? : )
i like Ae. but in NO WAY i would say you have to like Ae! don't diktat your own tastes to other people pretending you are right and they are wrong if they don't like what you like, this is just stupid and egoistic...
now - if you hate Ae, have you heard their previous stuff, like Amber or Anti EP?
it's quite very different from their later stuff.
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-04-24 06:53 [#00666459]
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Yeah, i have bought Amber on vynil when it cames out in '94, so i have a lot of experience in this kind of music. A great record bye the way, but i don't fall in love with their later works.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-24 07:14 [#00666473]
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"i dont hate em, but if i want to hear that noise i just stick my head in the dishwasher"
aah jesus JAroen.. those kind of remarks really irritate the fucking hell out of me - and not because its about ae - I don't care who its about, I just hate that.
it sounds so close-minded and dumb. I always hoped that within the so-called IDM-genre people wouldn't talk shit like that - but, alas.
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 07:18 [#00666479]
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I didnt like them for about a year, and once I stopped trying to like them, I started to like them...if you know what I mean.
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aFecks
on 2003-04-24 07:36 [#00666513]
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thats the spirit
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-04-24 08:39 [#00666568]
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I had also bought Basscad in the early '90. it was releases on TVT, you can find also fine remixes on it. Also a great release! Was it me who hates AE? I gonna fall in love for them.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-24 08:44 [#00666570]
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I've stopped trying to like ae and I still don't like their newer stuff. Only thier first 2 or 3 releases did anything for me. Albums like Confield make me want to go on a killing spree. If someone else wants to like I can't argue, but I think I would rather listen to a Britney Spears record than Confield.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-24 08:45 [#00666571]
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well, if you don't like them artemis that's fine, but why are they overated? Just because you don't like them? I like them, lots of other people do too...
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nacmat
on 2003-04-24 08:46 [#00666572]
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if tolstoyed was here he would love this thread...
we miss you tolstoyed
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-04-24 09:08 [#00666600]
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I was so tierd of all that boring Ae-treads. A topic name like "Ae haters" works like a shockwave for the AE fans.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-24 09:09 [#00666601]
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Confield is a total revolution in sound and it is really underappreciated.
I'm selling my Confield CD for $5 + postage. Shipping to USA only, please. email me if interested.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-24 09:10 [#00666604]
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yeah it really hit me in the gut.
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FatherClem
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-24 09:42 [#00666638]
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Hello! My name is FatherClem and I like AE.
What? You don't? Big deal! Blah Blah...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-04-24 09:45 [#00666639]
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tubular bells is FAR better than confield :P
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-24 09:53 [#00666642]
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DAMN YOU!!! :)
I will not rest before I have found every last copy of Blake's 7 and have BURNED it!!!
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Asche XL
on 2003-04-24 11:30 [#00666748]
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I hated them at first, now I love them. So go figure!
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uzim
on 2003-04-24 11:38 [#00666755]
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Inverted Whale > you love Confield, and yet you're selling the CD? why, have you got the vinyl?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-24 11:44 [#00666760]
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Where's Tolstoyed?
I think Autechre make the best music in the world right now.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 11:59 [#00666784]
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B3cause, steeeeeewpid, tracks such as those in ep7 are the fucking culmination of musical evolution as transmitted by culture.
As for comparing the sound of autechre to a dishwasher, maybe it's a little bit accurate with something like grantz graf, but ep7 is an insanely finely tuned human craft. Sound would never just form that way by chance. You don't have very good mental ability to distinguish in my opinion if you think ep7 is like the sound of a dishwasher.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-24 12:01 [#00666788]
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I didn't say that I loved Confield ...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-24 12:10 [#00666803]
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ok maybe not a dishwasher...
but to the looks of it ae fans cant distinguish ae samples from a crappy girls aloud song
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uviol
from United States on 2003-04-24 12:53 [#00666880]
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Ophecks: I completely agree with you
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-04-24 12:58 [#00666887]
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"i heart heartachre"
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2003-04-24 13:04 [#00666897]
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I could understand how some may think of the newer AE work as more technique than music. But on headphones at a healthy volume you can hear a lot of subtle melodious bits that aren't immediately discernable over speakers. Draft 7.30 keeps getting better with each new listen. There's a lot more going on there than just 'noise'.
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elated_caution
from Duvall (United States) on 2003-04-24 14:06 [#00667002]
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I bought tri repeate in 2000. that's all I've heard of theirs. It was pretty brutal. I didn't like it. There wasn't much variety or personality, just blank. I might like em if there was melodic stuff along with the other stuff. Ying and Yang.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-24 14:08 [#00667004]
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If you'd asked me a few months ago I would have said I hate Autechre.....but I'm getting to like what I hear more and more now...
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optimus prime
on 2003-04-24 14:13 [#00667010]
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LP5 and EP7.
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elated_caution
from Duvall (United States) on 2003-04-24 14:21 [#00667017]
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ok, I'll check it out. I didn't dislike it, just not my taste I guess.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-24 14:39 [#00667052]
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This CD has been sold.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-04-24 15:29 [#00667139]
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ae=good in my book
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