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This has nothing to do with the quality of his music because I think it is all top notch stuff (well most of it)...what it is about is the way the media portray him as THE pioneer of electronic music and styles...and yet if you look at his changes in direction they often coincide with his 'discovering' of lesser known artists. For example his shift into the drill type stuff came after the early vibert, mike p and tom j stuff, and now his new release is meant to be Ragga techno type stuff which is what The Bug has just released on Rephlex, however you can be sure the media will praise Richard for once again redifining what electronic music is. As I say I love Aphex's music more than anything in the world, but it also annoys me to see other artists not get the praise they deserve. |
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Spread the butter, that's wot I say!! Err, I mean spread the love... |
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its all autechre right now ;) |
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Plucking oath!! Autechre are the best innit :D |
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well done Lee, you've just discovered the music industry! ...and its links with the media! :) |
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As far as Ae go...they are good...although I am beginning to tire of draft, which is something that has never happened to me with an Ae release before. I hate to say it, but I think I may be getting bored with electronic music... :( |
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am i the only one here that doesn't want gay sex with autechre? |
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i was thinking the other day how he seems to be very influenced by other artists nowadays... around 97 ish... rdj album, icbyd i think he was pioneering.. .now tho... i dont think so... |
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the females here? i dont like autechre either |
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yes. |
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anyway, i thort it was BoC who were gay? |
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boc are gay? like matmos gay? |
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*shudder!* |
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ive been listening to dub and not much else lately :D |
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i agree that he isn't quite the pioneer kraftwerk, brian eno etc.........they're the fukling pioneers |
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Pole rawk at dub. im all about Phoenecia right now... that shit is mad. |
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But are they really? They are the most popular...but do we really know what influenced them? |
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in terms of innovation, i dont think aphex has anything on autechre at present. thats the opinion of myself and my close mates, relax, dont take it as libel guys :) |
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if we play that card then we will go in a never ending circle of people who influenced who, we'll just go farther and farther back until we reach the first musician |
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yeah you can keep going back and back its all rather pointless i thought the pet shop boys were quite important tho (here i go again!) |
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oops, that doesn't make sense take out the neverending circle part..... |
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haha thats funny But yeah I think everyone influences everyone, even non-musical things influence us, damn Im tired |
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the only point i was trying to make was that media awareness/success should not be the benchmark for what a pioneer is. There is an excellent line in a rap song about pioneers but I can't think what it is at the moment. :D |
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i dont think ecnadniarb's is talking about influences, i think he's actually talking about pioneers of specific new genres or styles. some small artist might have played a local venue, and some other guy/band saw them, thort it was cool, made something in the same style/genre, and became famous for it. Who's the pioneer? |
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theres an aussie hip hop line which goes '..always braggin about keepin real well i keep it real without a record deal' :D then they go on about how south-of-the-river smells and so on :) |
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yeah I see that now, and I must agree with you ecnad, and I myself love Aphex |
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heheh, that says it all! |
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I think mr. afx just goes with the flow of things. He may follow other peoples styles, but in my opinion, he does it better. And Autechre can blow bubbles on my nutsack now, but thats also just my opinion. |
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afx always makes it his own style anyway, we all knew drill n bass and some knew ragga/techno, and giving him the credit of pioneering is false. bwtf he often does it better, so maybe a lot of that attention he gets is ok because he makes it popular for us with his big skills. what i gotta say to drukqs is that its the only album i witnessed being released whilst i knew him, and i prayed that it would be drum and bass or drill and bass cause i like squarepusher a lot. and i love it + he made something new out of it, he comes a bit more close to techno |
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it's all about dancehall right now. fuckin THE BUG! |
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Eye. Every now and then an album is released that pushes music off into bold new directions. With the exception of SAW 1 and 2 and perhaps some of his early stuff, RDJ hasn't really done that. I try not to confuse original brilliance with pioneering. Aphex has a sound unlike anyone else and has one of the most diverse stylistic ability of any electronic artist. Kraftwerk was making crazy ass electronic music in the early 70's man. How is that for pioneering. Aphex Twin WAS a pioneer IMO, just like Kratwerk WAS a pioneer. |
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ain't much Aphex Twin stuff I really like now... after getting into some other stuff, RDJ's stuff just lost some appeal with me... Drukqs, SAW85-92 is both top notch... come to daddy is pretty good... other then that, I ain't much interested in him anymore... |
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Tangerine Dream deserve WAY more credit. I mean, I'm listening to Zeit from 1972 by them...it's SO ahead of it's time...weird blurps, noises, atmospheres, that sound as advanced as some early 90's ambient stuff. |
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BOC are not gay and have been victims of a few vicious rumours so stop it"! |
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ofcourse I may have missed the sarcasm.. |
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I agree that Aphex does often manage to do stuff better than the people who's styles he adopts and he does have a very unique style to his music. While I don't think he pioneers styles of music (which was the point in making this thread) what he does do, which very few other electronic artists have managed, is to take a style of music to the next level... With the exception of the ae style of music, any other genre within electronic music that I like would probably be topped by an Aphex track. His is my all time favourite artist and will probably always be. :D btw I have been listening to The Bug release all day and I suddenly remembered Genoside II...anyone remember them? |
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man. do you count what he as released as aphex only? or every fucking pseudo he has now? |
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is he fuck overhyped. when i start reading about him in the newspaper, i'll get worried. the fact that he gets written about in music press shouldnt worry you. |
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You've missed the point I was making...the topic title was just to get your attention :D |
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perhaps he's not discovering new styles, but he's doing whatever he does to the perfection...so its only normal he gets all the attention :) |
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He's probably not THE pioneer, but he's the best ambassador and the best at what he does, I think. A jack of all trades, and totally deserves all the kudos he gets. |
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agreed, its usually useless to point one artist against the other...so i usually dont. and ae, but since everyone has an opinion, i'll just say that afx does it for me emotionally, where ae usually remains within the technical, occasionally impressive realm. there's always this confidence i have that rdj brings you the real thing (instead of the really calculated thing). anyway, the reason for the post was more to say that, after listening to this year's ATP set, i was unmoved. at least compared to the one i saw last year, where he turned it out. the set just seemed to go in and out of different phases, and then end. course it makes a huge difference being there live, but on the radio it didn't have that thing. who was there? i dont know. to me, the live set is where the biggest innovations are right now. as the computer interfaces become more instrument-like and less laptop, things are gonna get good. you just wonder whether aphex has the endurance to keep filling the envelope. i figure years of staring at a screen and slouching over decks can take its toll on you, if your really trying...maybe he'll go deaf and continue producing top tracks. that'll convince me. |
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i'm not sure why all that was in itallics. |
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he's a total arrsehole, but he's also amazing at what he does and even betterr at what he did. |
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