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oops sorry about that last post..... dunno what happened. ok let's try this again: Author: Mike P Date: 04-14-03 22:21 the version on slsk that i've heard is fake.. only asking journalists to hold back 'til the release date, if not... who cares, not me. tossers. |
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My problem is it was sent to 50 journalists. That's all so far. each one with a note from me saying please do not put on slsk(or wherever) until the release date (2nd June in UK), so it's not what they did, it's that they (he/she) deliberately went against what I personally asked them to (not) do. So it's personal. |
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of course he cares, that's his bread and butter (he's one of the biggest acts on his own label, so of course early downloading is cutting into his future sales) and probably his blood sweat and tears (it's been a few years since a mu-ziq album was released, he probably put a lot of work into this only for it to be put online either in poor quality (like autechre, radiohead, white stripes releases) or as fakes (also like autechre)). that said, in 2003 i can't believe he'd be so naive to think his album wouldn't end up online as soon as he sent the promos out. 1998 or 1999 ok, but 2003, for a record label owner? it's just surprising he would trust journalists that much. |
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its a good point though. i don't understand why more of these producers don't just release crap copies or fakes of these albums. at some point, it gets too difficult to sort through all the crappy ones out there and buying the thing becomes a much easier solution. i must have downloaded 'twoism' 3 or four times and every time it had this annoying popping sound through the whole thing. and when i downloaded draft 7.30 it had some crappy hissing in the background. or the tracks were fakes. i finally just gave up and bought it. on the other hand, why oh why didn't i just download FSOL's Isness? what a waste of money that was. |
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You've probably never used Kazaa, have you? You can hire out companies to release fakes for you en masse, and lots of the larger record companies already do this. |
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i know a lot of people who have judged artists based on fake mp3's (aphex, radiohead, nin especially) so it's not THAT good of an idea in the long run. fake files spread really rapidly; some fans refuse to believe it's a hoax mp3 and new listeners refuse to give the artist a second chance after hearing the brilliant masterpiece that is "the tetris remix." |
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i didnt really like µ-ziq, but i think thats a bad new for electronic music... but now i realize that mike p dont care much about his fans, cause he decides to leave them without his music only because some stupid journalists put his music into the net... thank you, mike! |
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i only use kazaa for software and porn titsworth. the fact that the files spread rapidly is why this is a good idea. if the dummies refuse to believe that the files are fake, even after the album release, then they probably weren't that serious of fans anyway. |
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Natural Selection... |
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you'd be surprised. not all fans of the MUSIC (read: not the MUSICIANS) read the internet all the time. you can't fault them for being rabid about the music but not the little odds and ends about the musician. rare and unreleased tracks appear online sometimes, unless you make a point to find out if it's real or not then it's hard to tell. i still think the rapid spread of fake files would do more harm than good for an artist's reputation. |
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they don't even necessarily have to song files. when that nirvana thing came out last year with the new nirvana track on it, a lot of the files floating around were just a buzzing noise or silence for the length of the track. or like i said before, I tried repeatedly to get a copy of Twoism without that annoying clicking-popping sound, but to no avail. had to buy it. bought it. it comes with a neat sticker! downloaded files don't come with neat stickers! which brings up another point: artists should give you more reasons to buy the stuff i.e. stickers, limited edition fancy packaging, picture vinyl, coins... yadda yadda... |
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who cares, its just muzic.... |
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i got a shitload of orignal cd`s i can download what i want (which doesn`t happen very often cause i hate mp3`s) you guys should do it the same way |
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Mike P is without doubt one of the most legendary electronic music figures of all time alongside Aphex. He has a real knack for creating big tunes with massive feel good factor. I'm not sure about his latest release from what I've heard on the Planet Mu site, but I'd have to hear it more I'm sure. But all I can say, is I hope in hell that he doesn't go down the same route as Reload did. A group with massive potential and great tunes which just dissapeared into oblivion without a bye your leave. I personally believe its in Mike's best interest to keep releasing music afterall its been 3 years and not only that but the constant profile props up his older releases. Stopping releases is a mistake in my view, but of course its his calculation and we have to respect that. I'm still looking forward to the day that Mike P smashes the charts with a number single. His music warrants it for sure. :-) |
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i would be major gutted if it didnt come out |
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what a shame... -_- even if i don't care much about (and haven't heard much either) µ-ziq... |
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imagine: the whole album online but not for sale ... wicked |
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even though it's a bit understandable, he's overreacting and acting childish there!! he's just making himself look bad, it's nothing but a child's caprice... don't distribute copies to anyone if you don't want leakage... |
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my solution would be to send out a slightly different promo version to every journalist, so then you know who did it. or you could just not send anything at all. |
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50 different versions of each track?! ^^ rather not send anything at all... |
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Author: Mike P Date: 04-15-03 21:12 I'll put it out if you all shut up |
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no not 50 completely different versions! maybe just put a little blip noise or something at a certain mark on each version. just the smallest change that only the creator would be able to notice. |
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lol, the tetris remix is fake? haha, i didn't know that, oh well. no fakes don't work i think, that ae cassette promo was effectiv in my opinion 'cause high quality rips had been available only after the release. |
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of course he'll put it out... if he doesn't his label will tank... they're struggling as is, and need a high profile artist to sell. |
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I think Mike was obviously playing a joke on his hardcore µ fans, except everyone took it serious. |
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that ae cassette promo was effectiv in my opinion 'cause high quality rips had been available only after the release." exactly pure genius because it made me not wanna download it of course the new mu-ziq is coming out.....hes just pissed.. he does run a record label after all |
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jesus for a second i thought mike p had died. fuck all, take it like a man. atleast hes still got kid spatula and jake slazenger to release under. |
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good. |
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... wasnt a really good joke if it was joke. *sorry mike |
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Man, lovin' this hype! |
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fokking shit i tought the µ really died :S i think mr mike is overreacting a bit. As qrter ('zoekmijnsnor') said in the planet mu forum, popular artists ALWAYS leak... i really dont hope this goes through.. those samples sound awesome |
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heh that thread is a really good read... |
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if only slsk would work _ muahaha |
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taken from planet-mu index "2nd of June is my album "Bilious Paths" (ZIQ070) - it's on soulseek already apparently so that's my last under the name µ-Ziq then. But it was a stupid name. 2LP also - quality cut by Guy at the Exchange (of Max Tundra fame). This album is more dancey than Royal Astronomy... I will let someone else describe it: d/l from slsk and post a review on the messageboard please. Like that one on watmm (admittedly done from the clips) Review: Total Shit." |
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they should do what El-P does with the Def Jux releases, that would stop people downloading it. :D |
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i wonder how many sorry people instantaneously opened this thread ironicly expecting a µ-ziq mp3 rip.. |
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instead of "rest in peace" |
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i;m friends with Dykehouse who is signed to planet-mu who says Mr. Paradinas is a quiet guy who doesn't like to leave his flat whatever um.... So does this mean he'll stop releasing albums of all artist all together as shit leaks on a regular basis? It sucks that artists need money to survive. But I manage to write an album or two every year and I work overtime.... Damn maybe I should finally get access to those 4 CD's of unreleased BoC demos.... |
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i actually couldn't imagine hearing the mr. lif album without the promobot... so i'd have to say that el-p's method isn't that effective... unless they had a really obnoxious promo-bot-type-thing |
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the def jux promo bots ("for shizzle...") are SO obnoxious. for me it really does make me want to hear it without. ironically, i haven't bought any def jux outside of el-p (and soon cannibal ox and mr. lif) cos most of it isn't very good really. so i think it's effective for some people, but others (like yourself) can live with it. |
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"Author: Mike P Date: 04-16-03 05:02 Because I love my fans I have decided to release the album (I was joking about the aborting it thing of course). That's not all, I'm just remastering it at 24bit 96K so it sounds smoother. That's the UK version, the US version will be manufactured from the 16bit 48K master... I can't hear the difference on my speakers.. perhaps you lot may. It's up if any of you want to check it out, you don't have to buy it if it's shit (in your opinion). But remember how some albums take a while to grow... this one is a grower.. it has staying power. I'm not sick of it yet and i've been listening to some of the tracks for 3 years" |
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