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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-14 12:17 [#00649825]
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we yard bwoi run tings/a-f-ecks baka bwoi we run tings/ ria-chard jems, aphex twiin we run dis/ all-city massiv we run dis/ smojph-ace controllin in de airea-ah
selecta, rwiind! sound bwoy buriell!! BUKU!!
I guess this is something I'll have to see/[hear] to believe.. aphex going the dancehall route? I dont know.
is that bug remix actually available anywhere.. or is it one slsk or anything? if not, what about the original??
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-04-14 12:22 [#00649833]
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you can find the original there ("Run The Place Red feat. Daddy Freddy"). it's ok.
and get "Executor feat. Roger Robinson" while you're at it.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-14 12:40 [#00649860]
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you can find the original where
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hobbes
from age on 2003-04-14 12:43 [#00649863]
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lots of ragga in his last dj set.....breakbeat n ragga n bass n stuff.....
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 12:45 [#00649865]
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is it any good? i'm not familiar with ragga-techno...
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-14 12:47 [#00649870]
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wait.. he's doing a remix of a ragga-techno artist.. so that'll be in a ragga vein, that doesn't mean that his new EP will be like that though.
I do love that kind of rhythm though.. so it'll be interesting to hear it applied to new kinds of music (marilyn manson's new stuff has a lot of hiphop elements in it..) I like the neptunes/ragga hiphop type of rhythm that has been constantly employed in mainstream hiphop since liek 98
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-14 12:52 [#00649879]
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nevermind,.. I got it
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-04-14 13:28 [#00649961]
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What's the difference between Ragga and Reggae?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-14 13:29 [#00649963]
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who knows?
modern terminology changes from day to day... i say reggae. or dub.
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Psytech
from Arvika (Sweden) on 2003-04-14 13:33 [#00649968]
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ragga is a subgenre of reggae
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-14 14:34 [#00650086]
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ragga is dancehall/hip-hop reggae
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-14 14:38 [#00650095]
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the new ep is supposed to be the same kind of thing... but it'll be aphex ragga! you know you wanna hear aphex ragga!
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-14 14:40 [#00650099]
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yeah ive seen smojphace being filed under ragga techno... but who knows.
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-04-14 14:40 [#00650100]
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aw shite, i'm not on the same level with that ragga/reg/dub/whatever..
never has floated my boat.
i bought new pants today. i am feeling neurotic and shallow. i hope the new afx is somethingreally dark and screeching.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-14 14:41 [#00650102]
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jason is that your face? you a cool muthafucka
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-14 14:41 [#00650103]
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what??
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-04-14 14:42 [#00650106]
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yes what indeed
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 14:50 [#00650120]
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aphex is the bug????? i thought it was some1 else.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-14 14:50 [#00650121]
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anyway.. gideon, is there any way to get the full, registered version of a certain tracker program from you via email?? let me know
titsworth.. thanks for the hefty recommendations.. the IA comp is verrry good (save for the vsnaresy bogdan raczynski track.. which I is sortof growning on me.. though I tend to skip it) and I was surprised to find the savath + savalas "album" I bought was only an EP. is the full-length he preceeded that with any good?
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 14:52 [#00650125]
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the bug is kevin martin. who also records as the mighty "techno animal"
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 14:54 [#00650131]
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yawn - the bug album on rephlex was releasede to day I got it from warpmart and it's one of the best and most interesting things rephlex or any electronic label have ever put out -really bloddy good - there are soundclips at www.rephlex.com and reviews/information etc
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 14:55 [#00650133]
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obviously you'll find out more directly there rather than listening to people here who are just guessing
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-14 14:55 [#00650134]
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it's also good but not as advanced... that shouldn't stop you from enjoying it though. i hope you're taking advantage of the cheap prices over at heftyrecords.com. i feel bad for people who look up telefon tel aviv on amazon or barnes & noble and see $35 for a japanese import with an unnamed bonus track and think that you can't buy the cd in america. (incidentally, there is no bonus track, it's the same cd as what you can buy on the hefty site except $25 more expensive.)
the bug is not aphex, ragga is not reggae... some of you are getting confused. my advice: don't think about it, or look for the previous discussions on smojphace and ragga & dancehall music.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 14:59 [#00650146]
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try going to the rephlex website - reading some information and listening to sound clips and reviews -
i've not heard an authoritative word coming from here about the subject - just the blind leading the blind
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-14 15:01 [#00650157]
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ragga is a raggae/hiphop derivative
teflon tel aviv is real cool .. any recommendations there? .. I also have something for you that maybe I could upload to that ftp u showed me
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-14 15:03 [#00650164]
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the ftp is apparently full right now (no disk space when i try to upload)... email it to me?
TTA.. well they only have one full length and one ep, you can't go wrong getting both for $17.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 15:06 [#00650168]
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it's not at all - it's a indeginous jamacain music that started off as reggae based with electronic rhythms - it's now something quite different but it sounds nothing like hip hop - mainly cos the roots and culture element of reggae has larglety dissasociated itself with it or added it's own naibingi jah worshiping twist on it - as the lyrics are often slack - ie about sex or about gun talk .
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-14 15:07 [#00650169]
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And to clear up the final piece of confusion.. yes, this is my face.
:)
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wizards teeth
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 15:14 [#00650180]
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Runtings!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-14 15:19 [#00650183]
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you look like pharrell williams meets dose one
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soze
from Kingston (Jamaica) on 2003-04-15 13:33 [#00652012]
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ragga is variously used as a synonym for dancehall reggae and also dancehall style jungle (which I saw AFX play a WICKED set of at ATP last weekend). Definitely reccomend the Bug album as well, nasty rugged stuff. And a bit of flamebait: if you dig electronic music and don't recognize that Jamaica is one of it's birthplaces then you are sleeeeping. Really sick of all these electronica kids who don't recognize that virtually ALL this electronic music is black music at it's roots: techno, drum and bass, electro, hiphop, ragga and even rock and roll are all originated by black people. Recognize!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-15 13:53 [#00652040]
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...country, bluegrass, blues, jazz, ska... white people imitate and steal black culture
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-15 14:03 [#00652049]
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it's true.. look what it took for mainstream, middle and corporate america to accept hiphop
all electronica definately derived from 80's hiphop/electro .. like mantronix and shit like taht
wreckognize
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-15 14:09 [#00652057]
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I got this CD today and tho I can’t relate to the culture learning is always funfun. It adds a much needed angle to my record collection. Turn it up loud. Nice one Rephlex.
I like Fuck y'self best. Nice n raw.
Done.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-15 14:12 [#00652062]
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Kingston !!!BIGUP!!!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-15 14:17 [#00652077]
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mantronik is white ain't he.. anyway, lectronic dub and dancehall was coming out of jamaica as early as the 70s, it's a lot more similar to modern techno than kraftwerk, stockhausen, and anyone else whose name is brought up when we talk about the origins of electronic muse sick
what's funny about this raping and pillaging of black music is that as soon as whitey catches on, blacks move on and start another genre (eg: move away from jazz, start rock, leave rock, start hip-hop, leave hip-hop, start krakneljamz) only for the cycle to keep continuing... thank god black musicians are such good sports about less talented white imitators profiting off THEIR artform.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-15 16:24 [#00652208]
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sorry but i've never read so much junk in my life - name one modern dance track that is more like aquarius in dub than numbers or something .?
mantronix is peuto rican - also dancehall is an 80's phenomenon - not 70's .
i don't think blacks move on to other things when whitey catches on at all - that's just plain silly - so hip hop sells to 70% whiteys and it's got more boring than ever before - drum and bass is a mixed race thing and it ain't changed - jazz? predomenantly white audience - turned pretty conservative - roots reggae see again..
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-15 18:24 [#00652318]
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i wasn't saying he's white, i was asking.. i know he's not black, which is my point.
jamaicans started using electronics heavily in the late 70s but you didn't get dub or dancehall as proper genres (the way you're seeing this) until the early 80s like you said
blacks definitely moved on from country and rock, i was being facetious about hip-hop but who knows? there are exceptions of course (most notably reggae; i can't name a single white reggae artist) but i think there's something to my theory that after whitey catches on blacks move onto something else. generally speaking.
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