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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 13:39 [#00646895]
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hello im just trying to do a new version of my site, but im using frames this time... this is it however all im getting is a white screen... i save the frameset as the index, and all the frames within should load when the index loads correct? im probably wrong... can anyone help me?
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-12 13:40 [#00646897]
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drop frames - frames are the devil, they fuck everything up. you end up coding like a bitch in heat to get everything right
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 13:42 [#00646902]
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ive spent way too long on this too just start over :( and im really happy with the design, and the coding is already done...
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-04-12 13:43 [#00646903]
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Frames can be useful if you can code it right. Unfortunately i have forgot all the coding tricks i used to know.
But stick with it!
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-12 13:56 [#00646922]
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ok listen - the whole document with all frames included, is your index-file.
if you have a frame on the right of your screen, you've basically got the grand total of three separate pages; the right frame, named right_frame.html (or whatever filename you use), you've got the left frame, or mainframe.html, as I used to call it - then you have the whole page with both frames included, which should be named index.html
give your frames logical names; a frame on the right should be named frame_right.html - this gives you a better overview of things.
I agree with virginpusher - frames CAN be good, if coded properly, but they are equally shitty when badly coded..
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-12 14:01 [#00646929]
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things are working I see :) your bacground-image is to small for my resolution though, so it gets chopped up along the screen
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 14:10 [#00646936]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to nlogax: #00646929
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ah thanks... how can i fix the background thing? stratch to fit??
also when i load the discography frame, im not getting a scroll bar on the side which i find strange...
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-12 14:13 [#00646942]
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I saw the scrollbar-thingy - it's not there, so you need to set this in your html. it goes something like scrollbars="yes", i don't quite remember.
you could stretch the image, but that would pixelize it, and make it slightly lower quality - just experiment a little :)
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Verkrampte
from Renton (United States) on 2003-04-12 14:45 [#00647007]
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hmm im learning html in school but i dunno
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beanium
from United States on 2003-04-12 14:55 [#00647029]
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The left frame can't be seen in 800x600 - it's knocked off the page. Perhaps you should give an actual pixel value for the left side (rather than an asterisk) and have the far-right frame be an asterisk (because it doesn't matter if that gets cut off a bit).
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-04-12 14:55 [#00647032]
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srç="http://www.sunderedweb.com/~xanpha/blank.html"><frame name="rightFrame" scrolling="NO" noresize m>
you've got scrolling set to "no" here... set it to "yes"... and, what's the problem with the background exactly?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 14:59 [#00647037]
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oh thanks a lot guys, i hadnt noticed those things... hmm what a pain! i wont be updating in a hurry after this :)
the background image is too small for the frame when its viewed hi resolution screens...
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-04-12 15:03 [#00647043]
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o i c... hmm... you could give both the left frame and the rightmost frame a set pixel value equal to the width of your background images, and then only allow your center black frame to resize with the browser.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 15:04 [#00647047]
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right... ok... this is all within the code right? ill get too it after ive had a sleep :)
thanks very much for the help too! :)
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-04-12 15:09 [#00647057]
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yeah, you should be able to set it all up in the HTML of your frameset.
a pretty good quick reference
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-12 15:09 [#00647058]
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You'll always get problems with background images and people using 'unhelpful' screen resolutions, such is life.
You're not forced to try and cater for everyone though. If you were running, say, a business site in which having everything display right for the maximum number of people was crucial, then you couldn't use a layout like you have there.
However, this is a personal site so there's no need to be fussed about catering for everyone. Pick the most common couple of resolutions and design for them, fuck everyone else.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 15:12 [#00647060]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to danbrusca: #00647058
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hehe i thought the one i was using was the one most people used... heres to 1152 x 864!!!
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 15:12 [#00647061]
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cheers epohs! :)
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