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offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 13:39 [#00646895]
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hello
im just trying to do a new version of my site, but im using
frames this time... this is it however all im getting
is a white screen... i save the frameset as the index, and
all the frames within should load when the index loads
correct? im probably wrong... can anyone help me?


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-12 13:40 [#00646897]
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drop frames - frames are the devil, they fuck everything up.
you end up coding like a bitch in heat to get everything
right


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 13:42 [#00646902]
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ive spent way too long on this too just start over :( and im
really happy with the design, and the coding is already
done...


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-04-12 13:43 [#00646903]
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Frames can be useful if you can code it right. Unfortunately
i have forgot all the coding tricks i used to know.

But stick with it!


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-12 13:56 [#00646922]
Points: 4653 Status: Regular | Followup to teapot: #00646902



ok listen - the whole document with all frames included, is
your index-file.

if you have a frame on the right of your screen, you've
basically got the grand total of three separate pages; the
right frame, named right_frame.html (or whatever filename
you use), you've got the left frame, or mainframe.html, as I
used to call it - then you have the whole page with both
frames included, which should be named index.html

give your frames logical names; a frame on the right should
be named frame_right.html - this gives you a better overview
of things.

I agree with virginpusher - frames CAN be good, if coded
properly, but they are equally shitty when badly coded..


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-12 14:01 [#00646929]
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things are working I see :)
your bacground-image is to small for my resolution though,
so it gets chopped up along the screen


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 14:10 [#00646936]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to nlogax: #00646929



ah thanks... how can i fix the background thing? stratch to
fit??
also when i load the discography frame, im not getting a
scroll bar on the side which i find strange...


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-12 14:13 [#00646942]
Points: 4653 Status: Regular | Followup to teapot: #00646936



I saw the scrollbar-thingy - it's not there, so you need to
set this in your html. it goes something like
scrollbars="yes", i don't quite remember.

you could stretch the image, but that would pixelize it, and
make it slightly lower quality - just experiment a little :)


 

offline Verkrampte from Renton (United States) on 2003-04-12 14:45 [#00647007]
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hmm im learning html in school but i dunno


 

offline beanium from United States on 2003-04-12 14:55 [#00647029]
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The left frame can't be seen in 800x600 - it's knocked off
the page. Perhaps you should give an actual pixel value for
the left side (rather than an asterisk) and have the
far-right frame be an asterisk (because it doesn't matter if
that gets cut off a bit).


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-04-12 14:55 [#00647032]
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srç="http://www.sunderedweb.com/~xanpha/blank.html"><frame name="rightFrame" scrolling="NO" noresize m>

you've got scrolling set to "no" here... set it to "yes"...
and, what's the problem with the background exactly?


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 14:59 [#00647037]
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oh thanks a lot guys, i hadnt noticed those things... hmm
what a pain! i wont be updating in a hurry after this :)

the background image is too small for the frame when its
viewed hi resolution screens...


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-04-12 15:03 [#00647043]
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o i c... hmm... you could give both the left frame and the
rightmost frame a set pixel value equal to the width of your
background images, and then only allow your center black
frame to resize with the browser.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 15:04 [#00647047]
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right... ok... this is all within the code right? ill get
too it after ive had a sleep :)

thanks very much for the help too! :)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-04-12 15:09 [#00647057]
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yeah, you should be able to set it all up in the HTML of
your frameset.

a pretty good quick reference


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-12 15:09 [#00647058]
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You'll always get problems with background images and people
using 'unhelpful' screen resolutions, such is life.

You're not forced to try and cater for everyone though. If
you were running, say, a business site in which having
everything display right for the maximum number of people
was crucial, then you couldn't use a layout like you have
there.

However, this is a personal site so there's no need to be
fussed about catering for everyone. Pick the most common
couple of resolutions and design for them, fuck everyone
else.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 15:12 [#00647060]
Points: 5739 Status: Regular | Followup to danbrusca: #00647058



hehe i thought the one i was using was the one most people
used... heres to 1152 x 864!!!


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-04-12 15:12 [#00647061]
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cheers epohs! :)


 


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