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quantum_echo
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 16:20 [#00643610]
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whats the best way to create melodies? is there a program for free? and is it possible to import them into acid? any ideas?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 16:26 [#00643625]
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lol?
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 16:28 [#00643630]
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make melodies by any means man, its more creative that way
My suggestion would be to get a crack copy of a VST sytnh. Dpeends what type of sounds you want as well.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 16:29 [#00643635]
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sing them in :-)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-10 16:35 [#00643644]
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I've made melodies in many ways. I never use synths, only samples.
I don't know - I try to keep my methods changing all the time. thats why I am surprised when I find I've made a melody - those are mostly the best. the ones I find by accident are mostly the weirdest - I could never have thought them up.
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 16:37 [#00643650]
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I prefer working with old analouge hardware synths and putting them through a FX pedal. I love pushing it to the limits and it's so satisfying when you create some LO-Fi Ring Mod bass line thats soyunds so messed up and so good at the same time
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 16:37 [#00643652]
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I play them on the piano, or anything else which can make a melody. I think. Er....
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uviol
from United States on 2003-04-10 16:37 [#00643654]
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Don't use completely random, boxed tunes .. find some type of creative way! Like, think of a little arpeggio and put that in, and then play little harmonies in your head and beat them out .. or something. Or not, it's just more fun to hear a track you've made and be able to say, 'I made that' rather than 'ooh yeah I hit randomize on that'. I donno, give it a try. If you mean a program to help you write your own stuff, then my mistake, hehe. I would suggest Buzz becuase that's what I use. Of course, I'm a little out of my league when it comes to acid and stuff.
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 17:25 [#00643730]
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i use buzz too :)) (www.buzzmachines.com btw) i tend to find stuff happens almost accidentally at first. i rarely get a spark of inspiration where a melody comes to me in a flash (maybe thats why my tunes are devoid of melody :p). once i have say, a bassline or something, i take the dogs for a walk whilst its still spinning round & round in my head, adding imaginary harmonies and stuff, then try and replicate the sounds in my head when i get in.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-04-10 20:14 [#00643873]
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wow uviol your avitar made me laugh
"How rude!"
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-04-10 20:18 [#00643877]
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If you try to make a melody it will never work. A melody comes from your emotions not your brain.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-04-10 20:27 [#00643885]
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yep definitely!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 01:22 [#00644297]
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I was going to make a topic like this. Orange dust makes the best melodies here I think.
I want to know how everyone loops their tones.. Do you use a really small section of sound and loop that for a tone? etc.
I experimented naively with "melody" by briefly "studying" frequencies. In modplug tracker, I used the tiniest percussion sound to make varioiusly spaced clicks, every one possible. In the lame illustration below, 0=empty space equal in size to one sound click and 1= one sound click. So I saved a wav with the following frequencies:
111111111111111111111111111111111
101010101010101010101010101010101
100100100100100100100100100100100
10001000100010001000100010001000
100001000010000100001000010000
etc (keep adding an extra space in the next frequency).. then I saved it as a wav and played it as fast as possible and it sounded interesting and melodyish but not perfect. I then read on the internet the specific frequencies per second of each note and then I didn't go any further. And that ends my awesome story.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 01:25 [#00644299]
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see, the 1111111111 and the 1010101010 are an octave apart and the 100010001000 is another octave lower. They sound good together because they phase perfectly.
The last two lines of the ones and zeros in my other post should phase every 20 units, since 5 times 4=20. I wanted to be able to control melody at this microscopic level, that would be awesome.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-11 01:27 [#00644301]
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get a midi controller!!!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 01:30 [#00644303]
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how do those doohickies work?
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 01:34 [#00644305]
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A little piano or guitar theory helps,but the best tunes happen at this place
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-11 01:35 [#00644308]
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just a midi keyboard. one with its own power supply too, the ones that run off pc power are a joke. youll need one of those computer midi cables too. and youre off. most music software will take it.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-04-11 01:39 [#00644314]
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Melodies? I'm flattered, but I've been told over and over that I can write drums but my melodies suck, and uhh I think they're probably right.
The way I do it is pretty much just mess around until i find somethign I like,or else I play wth my old keyboard and shit, or the midi keyb opn the compuer until I fnid somethign cool.
Occasionally (very occasionally) I'll make a tune in my head and put it down on paper or figure it out on the keyboard but that's pretty rare
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 01:44 [#00644317]
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I'll write melodies for you,and you write drums for me.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 01:46 [#00644319]
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you pay attention not only to the pitch but to the sound quality... like in the very starting melody in "what is intelligence anyway", there are like 4 different types of melody sound used only in the first 10 seconds. (the long drone type1 with the echo part type1, and then the drone type2 with the echo part type2). How do you make sure that all the different types of sounds are of the same pitch? Like.. do you use wav files for the melody, or do you use looped pieces of sound? And if they are looped, they are all the same length of loop right?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 01:49 [#00644324]
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od: have you ever heard www.mp3.com/imaginary and if so do you like it? I bought "music for singing hippos" and it's one of the best melody dominated releases I've heard along with your stuff.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-04-11 01:59 [#00644329]
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I use synths, mostly softsynths inbuilt to fruity, so maknig them all in tune is usually pretty easy.
Those synths in that track were the Fruityloops 3xOSC wioth some echo. And I complressed them to make them punchy.
No I haven't heard anythnig from the imaginary site... hang on...that looks familiar....where have I seen this before...?
It's not your's is it, coz you're artificial selection, right?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-11 02:05 [#00644334]
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im the king of depressing synths :]
but you know, 3 years of being obsessed with autechre will do that do you
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 02:13 [#00644340]
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No, I didn't make that imaginary fantasy music. I actually found out about imaginary fantasy by searching for "nintendo" in mp3.com's search engine. mp3.com sucks since they limited everyone to 3 tracks. I really love those melodies though, too bad you can't hear them all anymore unless you buy the album. I'll look up soft synths in google to see what they are. (and yeah some of my music is under artificialselection)
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-04-11 02:28 [#00644352]
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softsynths = synthsizers that are programs rather than synths that you buy and hold in your hands
software synths
like in fruity i use ts404 WASP SimSynth Plugin 3xOSC (a lot) etc etc...
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-04-11 05:28 [#00644537]
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i think that program called Reason (v1.0 or 2.0 ) should be the best way to create melodies - you can download demo version of program at the site of Propellerhead ( they have made ReBirth ) and then you just collect samples and.... have fun
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-11 05:39 [#00644547]
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I put in something completely random, then chisel away until I'm left with something good. Not a good method, but I'm hardly too concerned with that until I work out this MIDI bullshit. The keyboard I have is a DJX-II and I haven't got a fucking clue!
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quantum_echo
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-12 07:41 [#00646269]
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ok, but what can u do with the .bmx file? can u convert it to .wav or use it in acid?
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-04-12 07:50 [#00646277]
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making a melody is easy with just the black keys, try it
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