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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-08 14:24 [#00639236]
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any comments anyone?
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-04-08 14:26 [#00639238]
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word
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-08 14:30 [#00639249]
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you like?
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-08 14:34 [#00639254]
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bunch of happy pussies.
check out the real bm: darkthrone - transilvanian hunger
of you you like it harder bm (some call it extreme bm): immortal - battles in the north
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-08 14:37 [#00639263]
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hmmmm...... hehe.
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-08 14:41 [#00639272]
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Saw them live at Dynamo Open Air 1999...
btw Kokoon > Limbonic Art for the ones that like it really hard
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-08 14:41 [#00639273]
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I know of heavier/angrier than cradle of filth as well, but im just wondering how many people out here likem.
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-08 14:42 [#00639276]
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Immortal's battles in the north is a masterpiece of black metal. Pure and raw, hard as hell.
Other "real bm" I like is Mayhem's "De Mysteriis Dom Satanas" and lots of their bootlegs, and of course older Burzum, most of Enslaved, Marduk, Emperor, Mysticum, Enthroned, Graveland, Setherial, satyricon.
Cradle is good in it's on way probably, but it's not really my thing.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-08 14:43 [#00639280]
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I'm glad you brrought this up. I have just downloaded a song frrom CDnow.com of theirrs. (not the best) and I plan to lend Dusk and Her Embrace frrom a frriend. As farr as i can tell thats theirr only good album, but even then i guess you have to be open to it. (i actually bought that album once and thought it was shit, but my attitude towarrds that kind of music has changed since)
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-08 14:48 [#00639286]
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ahh, yes, gorgoroth's promo "a sorcery written in blood" has one of my all time favorite songs - "katharinas bortgang"
de mysteriis dom sathanas is a great album, once you get used to atila's voice ;) those who heard it know what i mean
emperor a bit too cheesy for me.
burzum is actualy one of my favs too. especialy 'det som engang var' album. 'lost wisdom', ohh... and 'en ring til aa herske'...
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-08 14:49 [#00639291]
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just flith, disrupt, dead jesus...
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-08 14:51 [#00639297]
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anyway - CoF is really weak shit.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-08 14:52 [#00639301]
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why weak? only weak if your comparing, but then again, there will always be something heavier, darker, "less weak" so really that isnt the best comment to make.
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Polynomial-C
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-08 14:53 [#00639303]
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Anyone of you heard Golden Dawn? Great BM from Austria...
I still have all my BM CD's from Abigor, Gorgoroth, Dodheimsgard (great!), Kovenant, Dimmu Borgir, Enslaved, Cradle of Filth, Limbonic Art, Aeternus, Immortal, Burzum, Marduk, Satyricon, Thorns (great!), Ancient, Isengard, Mayhem, Emperor, Gehenna, Arcturus, ABSU, etc....
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-04-08 14:55 [#00639309]
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Weak..... well i guess i am gonna have to agree. IMO it's that "I am cool because i am different and all my clothes come from 'hot topic' because i am pretending to be goth" music.
I cannot support it.
Now hatebreed on the other hand.......
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-08 14:55 [#00639311]
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Deicide is good, not same catagory though.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-08 14:56 [#00639315]
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weak i meant like not quality music. but thats just IMHO.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-08 14:56 [#00639316]
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I have like 5 albums by them but go more for Emperor.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-08 14:57 [#00639321]
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phh thats a lame comment, i guess thats just how someone like you would see things on it, I mean really, if you cant be smart enough to fucking look past pieces of cloth on someones body as towards music then you should grow up.
Besides, who says I should or even have to dress like. I dress casual, most likely with a bit of hip hop style thrown in, but thats it at most. i dont pretend to do anything. I just like the music
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-08 14:58 [#00639325]
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And liking their music is your right!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-08 14:58 [#00639326]
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yeah but quality is pretty fucking relative, some of the best music in the world is simple, uncomplicated and not that talented.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-04-08 15:03 [#00639343]
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No offense or anything but over (yonder) it's just too trendy. I don't stand for shit like that. I am not judging based on clothes i am judging based on the number of posers that listen to that music.
Hey to each his own, right?
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-08 15:09 [#00639356]
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http://www.watmm.com/photos/oslo_2003/Satanstornade2.sized. jpg
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-08 17:15 [#00639522]
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a friend of mine had a round of drinks with them once, after he broke in backstage.
their drummer is fucking insane.
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Kirkle
on 2003-04-08 23:59 [#00640024]
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If you like good black metal
do a google search for
DHG
Its theatrical sounding like Cradle
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-04-09 00:52 [#00640114]
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i only liked "from cracle to enslave" ...it has good riffs ...haven't heard other, but I heard that Danny Filth is in a splatter movie...no wonder
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-09 00:58 [#00640118]
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theyre just trying to get some $$$ on what bands like bathory, venom and darkthrone achieved 15-20 years ago. and, ofcourse they have to make it more available for the masses. i see cradle of filth no different than some linkin park or slipknot or some similar scheisse.
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2003-04-09 02:37 [#00640254]
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I like them til the Cruelty and the beast album. Nicholas Barker was the main reason I like them. I heard "from the cradle to.." and I really disliked it. Haven't heard my CD's in several months think.
Nice to read you in this mb you true black metal heads.
DARKTHRONE or nothing
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2003-04-09 02:58 [#00640280]
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btw, there is a remixes album of Ulver, a norwegian (early black metal) band (now an electronic experimental act), some artists included in the new shape of Ulver songs are Bogdan Raczynski and Merzbow... keep an eye on this band!
\m/
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-09 03:00 [#00640283]
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Personally I never got into the black metal genre. Death metal, yes, definitely. Black metal is just Iron Maiden with cookie monster vocals.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-09 03:17 [#00640303]
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neto: ulver - nattnens madrigal was really good. yes, i heard theyre in more electronic stuff now. but merzbow and bogdan? will check it out!
jaworski: obviously you havent heard the no-joking stuff yet. cradle of filth aint black metal as far as im concerned. cradle of filth ARE just iron maiden with cookie monster vocals. plus, no matter how much i despite iron maiden and saxon and manowar and shit like that, they have much more skills than CoF. if you think only death metal is for real, just check out any of the first 4 Immortal albums - preferably Battles in the North of Pure Holocaust.
i too used to think its only about death metal. now im hooked to the oldskool norwegian bm. well, that and squarepusher. well... and autechre. and vsnares. and ofcourse, i really like the sound of berlin bc's dub/minimal...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-09 03:19 [#00640308]
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Nah I've heard loads of stuff, Emperor, Burzum, Vader etc but it's just not for me. I'll take Obituary or Decapitated over them any day.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-09 03:21 [#00640310]
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vader is not bm. how come you dont like vader? they're pretty much dm...
how about nile?
and yes, no matter what, its really nice to see people appreciating good metal here. cheers to that!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-09 03:23 [#00640312]
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Hmm, the Vader album I heard was pretty bm sounding. Oh well. Nile are pretty good, I have Black Seeds and the one before it... I'd rather see em live than listen to the record, fucking incredible to watch.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-09 03:25 [#00640315]
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i havent heard much vader, but ive heard lots of nile, i really like 'amongst the catacombs of nephren-ka'. i think these two bands sound alot alike.
well i you like nile, YOU HAVE TO CHECK OUT immortal's battles in the north.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-09 04:25 [#00640371]
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oops, wrong thread, sorry!
:>
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-04-09 04:38 [#00640383]
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I have Cruelty and the Beast--I like most of it. Im not obsessed with it and really Ive only listened to it in its entirety twice. The screaming gets to me sometimes. ;) *covers ears* I also think that the cd booklet art for this particular cd--the pictures of the band members with listed fetishes and things--is really cheesy. They should just be normal for once. Stop being so angsty. Grow a Jesus beard like Trent Reznor. ;)
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-04-09 04:42 [#00640388]
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scary guys in the woods. wow!
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2003-04-09 04:44 [#00640391]
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Jarworski, Kokoon, do you like Behemoth?
btw, i'm interested in the Tribute to Mayhem, have you heard it?
I really enjoy the 3 first albums by Immortal, and yes, The Madrigal of the Night is intense, raw, a lot of passion inside of it, i love it.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-04-09 05:13 [#00640414]
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funny this would come up.
i'm actually currently listening to blackmetalradio.
i realize that a lot of it isn't really black metal, but i'm not terribly "into" the whole thing. trying to become more familiar with it, though. some of it's okay, some of it's shit.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2003-04-09 05:21 [#00640421]
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neto: i havent heard behemoth yet. tribute to mayhem: i have 'tribute to euronymous' if thats what you mean. but its just a nordic black metal compilation.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-09 13:35 [#00641250]
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I must say, as much as i'm into underground, i still like COF, as i like the cheezy synth and the high pitch voice. I know theres harder stuff out there, but nothing quite as pompous and i like that. Also, i have the benefitt of knowing what all the swedish and norwegian black metal lyrics are about! hahah. i own you.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-09 13:50 [#00641270]
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cradle of filth is totally difefferent in every way as oppsed to linkin park, holy shit.
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2003-04-09 13:55 [#00641278]
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phucking hardcore shit i like it!!
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2003-04-09 14:28 [#00641323]
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well, i think you could like them...
I read Behemoth and others like Vader, Immortal, Emperor, Gorgoroth, and Absu are in the Mayhem Tribute (on the Avantgarde Music label). Absu are awesome.
Btw, the tribute to Euronymous has very cool tracks, the Abruptum and Mayhem (Pagan Fears) songs are my favorites in it.
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-09 14:38 [#00641340]
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Abruptum is insane.
You should try to d/l some of their other stuff.
They are torturing each other during recordings or so.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2003-04-09 15:36 [#00641445]
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A friend of mine's little brother listens to Cradle of Filth. He's 12-13 years old. ^_^
He like Aphex, too, and thinks that the second track on the Windowlicker EP (Equation) rokkz! Respect.
Maybe I should introduce him to V Snares?
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Frag
from New Jersey (United States) on 2003-04-09 15:41 [#00641452]
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definitely.
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2003-04-09 16:13 [#00641507]
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bitch im 12.
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2003-04-09 16:14 [#00641509]
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sorry that wasnt relevant.
ive only heard one song by cradle of filth. it was uhm.......
fun. kinda SILLY though
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