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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-08 06:25 [#00638518]
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..and categorize them.. whether they sold-out/fell off or both
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theo himself
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examples for the "both" category: tricky, RZA (or should I say Bobby)
sell-out: photek
fell off: roni size
there are many more
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 06:29 [#00638528]
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sell-out: Slipknot
fell off: Vision of Disorder
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-04-08 06:29 [#00638530]
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The Prodigy - boy, they really blew with Fat Of The Land. I remember the good 'ol days when i was the only kid in my neighbourhood who listened to Prodigy.....
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-04-08 06:29 [#00638531]
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and to top it all:
both fell out and sell-out: Korn
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-04-08 06:30 [#00638532]
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sell-out: aphex twin
I love roni size's 2002 Child of the West with Cypress Hill.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-04-08 06:30 [#00638533]
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btw, that was an example of both.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-08 06:33 [#00638540]
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I'm thinking aphex is on his way.. we'll see w/ smojphace.. he hasn't yet though marlowe
what did slipknot do to sell out? isnt their whole thing a gimmick to begin with?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-08 06:34 [#00638543]
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yeah, you can't sell out if you NEVER had integrity.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-04-08 06:36 [#00638547]
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that's normally the argument against people accusing people LIke Moby of selling out.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-08 06:37 [#00638550]
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sell out - aphex what is he doing? hes been standing still for the past few years..
fall off - underworld. i still love them, but their splitting up was a tragedy
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-08 06:37 [#00638551]
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well, moby is just weak.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-08 06:38 [#00638553]
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johnny: you didnt like "two months off"? good track, cant speak for the rest of the album.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-04-08 06:39 [#00638556]
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I was referring to Aphex Twin allowing his sonic creations to advertise corporations, not the quality of his sonic creations.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-08 06:41 [#00638557]
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id let someone use one of my songs... if i liked the product or organization.
he also let the special olympics use "goon gumpas" for their charity's commercial.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-08 06:41 [#00638559]
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i love two months off to bits
also the songs little speaker and twist
the rest of the album worried me tho :/ plus im one of those people that misses the original vocalist..
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-08 06:43 [#00638563]
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yeah... i havent even heard the new massive attack, and i know everyone is singing it's praises, but... dude... 2 out of 3 people are now gone. how "massive attack-ish" can it be. plus sinead o'connor is on it. yuck.
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haukur
from Frankfurt (Germany) on 2003-04-08 06:52 [#00638591]
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dadadada nirvana dadada nirvana hehe
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-04-08 06:55 [#00638596]
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sell-outs: the manic street preachers
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-08 07:22 [#00638674]
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The thing to note about Aphex Twin is that while he is a sell-out, he's completely shameless about it, which I fully respect.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-04-08 07:24 [#00638679]
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why? By flaunting it, he's hoping to be respected and somehow seen as post-modern ironic -- it's a gimmick, don't be fooled.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-08 07:25 [#00638681]
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I don't like the term sell-out, cause it's not for me to say... someone isn't a sell-out just because they make a commercial album, nor are they one if they set out to try and be more commercial... it's all in the intentions to make money and all that I think... and well, I just don't know peoples intentions...
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-08 07:27 [#00638684]
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I would answer, but I haven't got a fucking clue what 'post-modern ironic' means ;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-08 07:33 [#00638700]
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Quite true, but I believe that he really doesn't care at all what people think and that he is probably also quite apolitical.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-04-08 07:36 [#00638705]
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neither of which excuse his actions I would say.
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2003-04-08 11:50 [#00639084]
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what, you cant try to make a living from music?
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-04-08 12:38 [#00639144]
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there's only one true sell-out:
-metallica
I mean these guys made millions of dollars thanks to solid music and underground fanbase, and they stil reckoned it wasn't enough so they popped the charts and sued napster because they claimed lost income.
I mea really, can I have a bucket to puke in plz?
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-04-08 12:52 [#00639165]
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fell off of my taste would be aphex twin. that drill n bass stuff really don't bother me
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-08 13:13 [#00639187]
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but how do you know they did all that just to make more money? You can't expect a band like them to make hardcore metal forever... what's his name, James Hetfield recently had a kid, I saw him in an interview, so you have to think that's going to change the type of music you want to make... plus, they're older and more mature... as you said, they were the best selling metal band before they even reached the charts... so, it's not like they felt the need to reach the charts to make more money...
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-08 13:36 [#00639202]
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classic fall off: Cypress Hill
i'm inclined to call Metallica sell-outs, although they still have some good songs here and there.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-08 17:41 [#00639583]
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Prodigy,. for both selling out and falling out
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-08 17:44 [#00639595]
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if aphex is a sell-out, great times are about to come!!! looking forward to that :)
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-08 17:47 [#00639598]
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snoop doggy dogg, obviously..
after his doggystyle album, which is fucking brilliant and always will be, he spat out albums like knocked out teeth. fucking sad shit.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-08 17:58 [#00639615]
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does it bother anyone else that aphex's new album is being described as "ragga techno"? is he now trying to appeal to the (shudder) sean paul audience?
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-08 19:00 [#00639697]
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that's what I'm talking about!!
all reports of from those who have heard his new material say it's more accessable.. and judging from the 26 mixes new tracks (the 'original mix' is a bit of a misnomer) it sounds like his shit is real basic now.. dance-floor friendly
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-08 19:04 [#00639702]
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fell off:
placebo (quite a long time ago)
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nacmat
on 2003-04-08 19:05 [#00639704]
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u2 smashing pumpkins
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-04-08 19:10 [#00639710]
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Do you not like direct music? forget 'dance' music, music that you like straight away not pseudo intilectual crap. REAL Techno, REAL hip hop, Real Rock. When you play live do you want to fuck people off?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-08 19:11 [#00639711]
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soundgarden
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-08 19:12 [#00639713]
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well, as in "they broke up"
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-04-08 19:16 [#00639716]
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pachi!!!! that avatar sans sabre is amazing!!!!! I really miss it everytime I look here.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-08 19:16 [#00639717]
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fell off and sold out: live tricky moby dmx
i'm not saying the above were really great to begin with (maybe tricky) but generally i'm pretty patient with artists when they release an album i don't like. nin put out "deep" which was horrendous but then he saved himself with the still ep.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-04-08 19:38 [#00639727]
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radiohead will sell out soon.
aphex sold out a while ago but really, who gives a shit? hes aphex twin, he can do that.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-04-08 19:39 [#00639728]
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and its not like aphex really sold out, he isn't publicly well known. just technically sold out. if he actually became popular the world would explode.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-04-09 09:12 [#00640797]
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aphex hasn't sold out ... yet.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-04-09 10:20 [#00640992]
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yes he has
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-09 10:22 [#00640995]
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he doesn't need to, but he will probably just to piss us all off.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-09 10:22 [#00640997]
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Fell off and sold out - Ice Cube
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2003-04-09 11:45 [#00641125]
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lets be all friends
or something
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-04-09 11:48 [#00641127]
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tenacious d for sure
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