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"I am consumer ... i am the end user, i am the product choser ..." - Numbers' track off Tigerbeat6: And the beat goes off My question is this - do you peeps think the general idm crowd (yes yes i know) - something to that effect, are subjected to similar marketing forces (/resulting in a similar compulsion) to buy new releases etc. as say people that are into more public music? why? |
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I think the head of bebecula records said it best when he said (I'm paraphrasing), "The IDM crowd is seem as elitist and selective. They are quick to put down commericalism and promotion in pop acts, but don't seem to realise it happens in this genre as much as any other..." I'm inclined to agree, I don't think anyone would deny that the Astrobotnia launch was a fantastic bit of marketing. Don't get me wrong- I absolutely love these releases, parts 1&3 are my favourite releases of last year with the possible exception of Geogaddi... It's just I wonder how many excellent albums/tracks I've missed out on as they weren't marketed so well? |
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ok .. maybe i'll rephrase that. do you girls and boys buy cd's? |
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yeah....mostly albums I downloaded a long time ago.... |
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i bought £100 worth of cd s last week off the net...i am a slave to the packaging... |
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Ah .. oops ... Ceri: yeah, totally agree. personally i think (though haven't listend in a while) astrobotnia2 is the best, but there you go. maybe that's because i'm an elitist snob i like limited rare stuff more? hehe.. 26 Mixes for Cash is a prime example imo. The whole ironic or something twist works wonders. Got some nice tunes on there |
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diastole: packaging? how do you mean .. cover art and things? or the whole "parcel" effect by buying it on the net? mm.. |
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Nothing wrong with Astro 2- that was the "straw that broke the camel's back" and finally resolved me to buying record decks! |
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haha .. they really suckered you didn't they :) well, my back almost broke, as i suddenly thought of all these 12" only releases i could get (following my consumer/hoarding instinct). so did i get it right, you liked geogaddi, coz i felt i got suckered into buying that one a bit. mmm... |
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I really like Geogaddi, I keep changing my mind about how good it is -at the moment I prefer MHTRTC, but if you'd asked me two months ago I'd of said I liked it more than MHTRTC :) |
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speaking of consumer... has anyone ever read the book "the consumer" by m. gira? i HIGHLY recommend it for those with a tough stomach for the more gruesome side of life. it is raw and emotional. it is hard to put down, once you get started. |
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that's good i s'pose :) haven't listened to boc much recently ... more into just rhythmic stuff at the moment (takeshi muto). a bit of guitar (a la fennesz and hrvatski). matt minimalism : can't wait for draft |
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seriously... anyone who likes short stories that inter-relate kinda thing... and anyone who likes stuff like lovecraft, poe, ligotti, etc... this is for you. one of the greatest modern dramatic books i have read. |
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tibbar: sounds intriguing .. is this conspiracy type stuff? mmm... i'm quite fascinated with the almost ritual like compulsion of the "consumerist society" (me included) buying stuff in order to play this "game" ... also intrigued with the concept of "waste" (eg. George Bataille's Restricted vs General Economy) |
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how can you NOT be a consumer? seems pretty impossible now days......most of the time you dont even realise it....our whole society is kinda based around this... |
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exactly ... unless of course you get called "insane" |
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no no no. not conspiracy type stuff. more like deviant society and deviant man and his place in a society that wants his soul. some of the story titles: the job, the man, the woman, the bastard, the boss, the boy who hid his body inside of a horse (or: my vulvic los angeles), a screw, why i ate my wife, raping a slave like i said, gritty reading... but he said his intent was to expose the ugliness and insanity of humankind and reulse you away from it. to keep you away from joining in on the orgy. |
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How was Astrobotnia marketed? I heard people talking about it on here so I downloaded some. Hope they didn't pay an ad agency to come up with that strategy. |
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I. Like. To. Wear. Aftershave. And. Nivea. Facial. Scrub. Because. It. Will. Make. Me. More. Attractive. Then. I. Will. Buy. Fancy. Cellphone. And. Take. Pictures. Of. Self. At. Parties. Since. I. Will. Become. Popular. After. Using. Lynx. Deodorant. And. Chewing. Gum. That. Makes. Muscles. Big. And. Face. Pretty. |
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marlowe: is that some sarcasm towards gira. if it is, it's hella funny. |
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*We Are Standing Towards Eternity* no logo was a scary read.... |
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BTW nothing wrong with consumption from my perspective. I enjoy exchanging symbolic value for goods and services. But part of the fun of being a music fan is discovering new treasures that the music cartels weren't particularly eager to tell you about. Makes you feel... lucky! |
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that sounds cool ... think i'll seek it out (at the library!) though - why distance yourself from the orgy. its an immense pressure to join in ... ethics i guess huh? that's quite cool. |
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Fun. Of. Music. Only. Listening. To. Dance. Anthems. Adverts. Know. What. Is. Best. For. Us. |
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cuz he has a tendency to do that. very short descriptive sentences. we used to make fun of his style alot... imagine it in a thick georgian accent (which he has) my birth is a hole. a hole in my mothers skull. it sucks the poison out. i feel empty. i am a tomb. my birth is indirectly a result of someone else's death. i feel blood in my skull. his stuff is better. we could do it for hours. |
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fleetmoose: true nothing wrong with consumption per se. but it just seems, if you're not caught up in it that it can seem really alienating and pointless. this whole symbolic exchange resembles (i'm exaggerating here) a japanese tea ceremony. mmm.. you go to work to buy stuff you don't need. |
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american psycho, my friends. |
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Thank. You. For. Choosing. Microsoft. Brain. Implants. |
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I sometimes wonder if African peasants and untouched Amazon jungle natives are just as stupid and braindead as Canadian mall rats. |
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I. Will. Obey. My. Leaders. They. Are. Trying. To. Help. Me. Rebellion. Is. Unhealthy. |
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i'd say yes if it wasn't for their amazing sense of rhythm. |
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I imagine they're more attuned to Nature and the Cosmos than braindead Canadian mall rats. |
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Attuned is a nice word. |
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Imagine is also a nice word. |
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ceri: 2 questions what was the astrotnia album's promotion scheme? that it was rumored to be afx? 2nd question, what does the jc stand for .. if it stands for what I think it might.. just don't answer.. wink or something ;) |
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Thanks - I invented it in 1723, |
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fleet: perhaps they engage in creating things not only for consumption ... |
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Marlowe© - no problem. Attuned(TM) |
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send your .10$ to me tomorrow or I'll sue you! for using my word! :P |
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1723 ... that must have required a bit of forethought! |
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yeah, korben!!!!! is something wrong with you? you need to get in tune with stuff... i'd venture to say that you need to attune yourself. |
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I'm a wise old fox! |
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Boy, the royalties are just gonna flood in now! My cunning marketing worked a chaRm! |
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hey now... i registered "charm" back in 1502. pay up!!! |
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tibbar: would you be so kind and lend me a fork? marlowe: you're set to take over the world now .. with your monopoly on words an all ... |
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Bwahahahaha! Yeah, there's that Yanomami artis Q'hauq who does installations like "wooden bowl of Manioc #34". Let's deconstruct the myth of nature! Are bees less attuned to nature - because they construct their own environment - than, say, grasshoppers? |
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I spotted the potential for words centuries ago - and now I intend to reap the rewards! *throws tibbar a penny for using the C word* |
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* You may arsk why I capitalized manioc. You may well arsk. I dunno. |
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to emphasise its import??! |
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um, marlowe: i hate to be a pest, but i also copyrighted the word "word" and "the" like, back in the day... like 8000 b.c. and crap. so pay up foo! |
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