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the ads are TARGETED toward people who WANT to be aware of the products generally. The schematic site for example. There are wicked drawings and weird bios because they care and we care. This is why I hate most advertising, like .... "CALL ROTER ROOTER, THAT'S THE NAME! SEND YOUR TROUBLES DOWN THE DRAIN! Roter Rooter!" |
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I don't know what the hell you are all talking about. |
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i take it you WANTed to be aware of rotor rooter in general then :) |
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well not too far down/up the post we were talking about bees and earthworms ... |
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is astrobotnia a vinyl only release? how does it rank among the releases of top idm artists of 2001-2002? what is HTFR? |
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astrobotnia 2 is vinyl only ... um.. i'm sure there must be a pole about which rates 2002 releases? |
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Capitalist pie is made of flour, butter, fruit, sugar, cinnamon and ice cream. Communist pie is made of jealousy. |
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No, I did not want to be aware of that particular thingamabobamajig that you have mentioned in your previous reply which was to my reply about something and stuff. Even worse are Kevin and Dave from robbins brothers. Or whatever the hell their names are, I'm surprised I don't remember from their meme warfare about diamond rings or some retarded crap that I would like go a; o f snuffle. *sighh sigha' kkk They have humonauguous dialogues about diamond rings and try and fail to be humorous. Then a female announcer comes on and announces all the city's that robins broghehers is located in. Every next city she mentions makes her hornier and hornier, so satisfied that there are SO many locations of robins brothers. I wan sgoing to say something else, but then I diceidkend not gtoo. |
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all political systems are shemes against nature. What should I feed my blood to? Have you ever fallen asleep on a toilet? |
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I am a compulsive consumer without a doubt |
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damn that sounds good *mouth waters*. i would have thought the capitalist pie would have been made out of anxiety and oppression? jealousy eh? seems quite dismissive though to just sideline these dreamers as jealous pie makers? |
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or oppressing ... wmw: politics against nature? its part and parcel of nature. what is natural anyway? |
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put it this way ... the capitalist pie seems a bit too sweet. (what's wrong with savoury pies ... mince'n cheese anyone?) |
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nature is all that is isn't super corrupt and evil. wow this post was so deep. remember to drink your chocolate milk kdis! oh, it's blood? drink it anyway! |
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ROTFLMAO thread closed |
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Somebody help me. I sit here all day and refresh this messageboard. There is no cure. There is no cure. And even worse, I remembered the names of the robin's brothers duo: skip and steve. In fact I think I'll go search the internet to see if they have some sort of website. I want to see if there are pictures of those jerks uploaded somewhere. |
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fleetmouse - capitalist pie smells a tad like fascist pie ... no? |
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great album title: "That's why it's ok to destroy the universe" Also I think nature isn't "that which is untouched by man" it's "that which isn't made by man". man can go to forest and "touch" nature whith him fingers even though he didn't make it. I had something else I thought was pretty necessary to infect your minds with but I forgot. |
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To be polite, if you touch it you have to eat it. Therefore consumption starts with the tactile, rather than the abstract. :: decides thread isn't over after all :: |
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... wtf? Well, yeah, I guess it's like those damn potatoe chips. If you touch one you have to eat them all. Once you pop you don't stop. yeah. I have no idea what you meant, but please let me put my hand in your puppet backside. |
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re: jealousy and bakery/ there is a flipside to this supposed jealousy though isn't there? - a frenetic feverish, paranoid attempt to inject as much artificial colour and flavour to maintain and justify this dispicable picture of jealousy of the talentless social misfits. meanwhile striving to hoarde things more colourful, more sweet and more fantastic, because this makes one comfortably numb ... but again this is toying with abstract ideals of quasi-leftist persuasion. a bitterness not because they don't want to play the game, but because they can't play the game. |
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Isn't it easier to admit that people like nice things than to pretend to adore the bracing austerity of the Castro regime? |
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of course it is, but why one or the other - people get seduced as well, that's not to deny they don't like it ... why not an other (haha .. how french i know). whilst i'd be a hypocrite if i'd call myself an advent leftist or anything remotely of the sort, at the same time i think there's a troubling aspect, a sort of blissful ignorance of capitalist society imposing the way to play the game. if it is such a good thing, surely it can't hurt to scrutinize it and look at it closer, rather than to scuttle away to a mall ... its easy to get carried away as well in this abstract reasoning, because if i want to make a song, i can, if i want to make a chair i can etc. etc. |
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You're talking frog talk. I am a frog. Or rather, I am a two dimensional representation of a simulacrum of a frog, therefore of nature twice removed. You have an avatar of a bird feeding a hungry baby bird. That could be construed as an industrialist fulfilling the needs of consumers, or as the socialist state providing for its citizens. Discuss. |
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as per the original question... yes we are sold releases the same way everyone else is... but i have no problem supporting artists who make relatively little money... as far as whether or not the marketing can prevent good releases from being heard or get bad releases too much play... it seems to me that one can find out what is truly good through sites like this, once the hype cloud has cleared... and the genre is relatively obscure enough, that in most cases, the truly good artists get the most hype: there is a reason why people recognize BoC, Aphex, Autechre, Squarepusher etc. above the rest: they are some of the very best |
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Kermit: frog talk and baudrillard my ass .... i'll eat your legs! deadeight: mmm... you don't think the "big four" are a bit overhyped sometimes? |
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i'll eat your legs! consumer |
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haha ... well yeah .. you got me there :) *mm.. a bit salty* |
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that propaganda site is brilliant .. just makes me wonder how you came across it! |
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Unless you actually succeed in turning the tables (you won't) all you do is make your situation worse by fighting the powers that be. By protesting you eat up tax money which could instead be used for education, healthcare and benefits. You also draw attention to the fact you're fighting them which make them clamp down all the tighter and lessen your chances of revolt. The idea of a "workers revolution" is romantic, but in this day and age extremely unlikely. The technology base used by those in power not to mention the power they weild by controlling the media make it virtually impossible to fight. Even if such a worker's revolution took place, things would be worse in the short term and in the long term would revert to normal. If you really want to make a difference, knuckle down and make some money, you'll be able to afford a proper revolution rather than just a placard and pen to take to a protest. |
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Nothing wrong with fascism (don't harp on about the nazis, they're as far from real fascists as the soviets were from real commies), it's closest to survivalism and as a result closer to nature (survival of the fittest and all that). |
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Woah - ... I'm not advocating no revolution .. as i pointed out a few posts earlier .. i empathise with the motive of the proletariat, however that table turning excercise doesn't resolve the opposition (as was evidenced in the French 1968 student revolt), it will just result with an endless table turning excercise - even if the bourgeois is gotten rid of (as hegel would have it, I presume marx also). My point is YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE, without having to turn the tables, or having to earn money for that matter. Surely a co-existence of values can exist (and they currently do), but shifting the blame entirely to the poor, because they have no talent, are lazy whatever I think is unfounded. THAT to me smells of fascism, dismissing a perceived opposition, discarding it - I think especially if one considers oneself in the privileged "rich" that one ought to look at the "poor" ... just as it is an illegitimate move of the poor to blame all their misfortunes on the rich. Works both ways .. |
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Re: Facism Why not harp on about the Nazi's. They were bloody well fascist. But if you want I can harp on about neo-conservatives for a more topical version. Fascism to me represents a conservative intolerant approach, which is fine if you're part of the gang, but rather uncomfortable if not! |
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Survivalism and closer to nature? come on ... i thought you just meant a narrow minded conservative attitude with fascism, but survival of the fittest ... really? this is one huge can you've just opened. |
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Commies always bang on how the soviet bloc wasn't an accurate representation of Trotsky or Marx's teachings whenever people use that as an example of why communism doesn't work. However, the same people don't seem able to spot that the Nazi's were not an accurate representation of Nietzsche's teachings either... |
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what is disturbing about the fitest survive business is that, this fitness is politically derived, and thus, a certain type of fitness can be "invented" - thus deciding what ought to be discarded, or at the very least be deemed unfit, and poor or whatever. as it relies on political ideology, it can hardly be based on fact. besides, darwins whole model has problems i will not go into now .. but the main problem comparing darwin with politics, is that, taking a more contemporary version of darwin, the unit of selection in a sense is passive. it does interact with the environment, but there is an important sense of fatalism in darwins notion of fitness. where the analogy goes wrong when applying it to politics is that, presuming we are the units of selection, we are not passive, as we can make a change to our environment. This gets hugely complex if one wants to take account of contingencies etc .. but i hope you get my point? |
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I get your point, and I'm not a darwinist. The idea of "fittest" is decided by those in power I'll, agree. |
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Nietzsche was an elitist not a fascist ... nietzsche was about being all that you can be - in light of his concern for cultural ... certainly not - make as much money as you can! re: survival of the fittest and nietzsche's will to power (or growth would be a more apt description) ... nietzsche's power or growth was a self-defined one ... there is no absolute end in terms of which you measure fittness or greatness ... |
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Yes it was to be the best you can- not help other people... |
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i agree that the nazi's very much squewed nietzsche's writings .. but how does that not make them fascist? |
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not help other people? ... what was his whole philosophy about then? was he not trying to reintroduce culture and art in society? wasn't he trying to breathe life into culture - and thus help people? |
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i think nietzsche's distaste for the herd, as admirable as it is, tells as much about him as the herd. nietzsche lived a tortured lonely a-social life! the übermensch is a being that is freed of resentment. it does not resent the poor or the rich, it is great, throw parties and celebrates life. i think that is quite a liberating perspective and should trap one into thinking that out of principle one should not help other people. you and i rely on other people .. |
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shouldn't trap one ... besides - Nietzsche by his own admission was not an übermensch (not meaning to discredit nietzsche's insights) |
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Do you think we could get Frank Oz to record an audiobook of Baudrillard in Miss Piggy's voice? "In the early 80s, when the metallurgical industry in the Lorraine region entered its final crisis, the public powers had the idea to make up for this collapse by creating a European leisure zone, an "intelligent" theme park which could jumpstart the economy of the region. This park was called Smurfland. HAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIII-YAH!!!!!" |
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