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I've always steered away from hip hop, most of what I've heeard has been quite lame, and I've been shown very little to generate any interest in the genre, but I recently heard DJ shadow's "Private Press" and was blown away, now I want to score myself some more decent hip hop.... suggestions? |
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If you likes private press check out prefuse 73 - vocal studies and uprock narritives dj shadow - introducing and this is hard to find but if you come across it pick up presage - outer perimeter there are a billion things i could suggest reall, but this will probably get you off on the right track |
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Check out Bran Van 3000's first album ("Glee"). There's a lot to mention... Two of my fav tracks are "Still Dre" (Snoop Dog & Dr Dre) and Damn it feels good to be a gangsta (Get Boys)... There's lot more to, but most new hiphop is boring if you ask me. |
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prefuse 73 has a new one coming out as well soon on warp recoprds ,,, try the hypntech series on hypnotech records which is an offshoot of underground resistance - also stuff by dabrye,,,,all kinda crossover hip hop electronic stuff |
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ta pomme |
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get anything by Dj Shadow, it's all good |
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I think I'll go nuts buying all his stuff when I return to work and get some money again |
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one of my local record stores has a whole heap of old/rare DJ shadow EP's up for sale, It probably won't be there for any longer than a couple of months, are there any essential B-sides that I should grab before I miss the oppurtunity? |
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get hold of RJD2 - Dead Ringer it will blow you away. His live sets are also phenominal |
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Quasimoto - the unseen Dr. Octogon deltron 3030 talib kweli and hi tek - reflection eternal the streets handsome boy modeling school - so how's your girl? this is my favorite stuff. (shrug) |
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DR Octagon he rules! and his dj is the master of the turn tables DJ q bert... nuf said... |
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RJD2 - I've heard this band is a bitch to find over here in australia, they don't print it over here so I'd have to order it in, could you recommend me a track to see what they're like? |
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herbaliser |
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It really depends on what you want out of hip-hop. It looks like you're leaning towards the sample-heavy instrumental side, in which case your best bet is looking at Shadow, RJD2, DJ Krush and anything produced by Dan the Automator (including those mentioned above: Handsome Boy Modelling School, Deltron, Dr Octagon and also Lovage featuring Mike Patton on vox). If you want some intelligent lyrics, check these titles to start with: Aesop Rock - Float Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus J-Live - The Best Part Latyrx: The Album Blackalicious: A2G EP (if you can get it) These last two are part of Shadow's crew and he does some of their beats. Since you're in Australia, you should check some Australian stuff. Dave and Katch from the Resin Dogs have two quite good mainly instrumental CDs out under the name 2Dogz. They are distributed by Virgin so shouldn't be too hard to find. A guy out of Melbourne called Plutonic Lab has an excellent instrumental album out as well. Also: Lazy Grey - On or Off Tap (Brisbane) Lyrical Commission's new CD, I think it's self-titled (Melbourne) Celsius - self titled (Sydney) UK hip-hop is excellent and relatively easy to find in Australia. Check for anything on the Lowlife label (Braintax's Birofunk LP, Jehst's Return of the Drifter, Taskforce's Voice of the Great Outdoors EP) and of course Roots Manuva is a champ. Creative Vibes has just picked up the rights to distribute some Def Jux releases in Australia, including RJD2's Dead Ringer, so you should be able to find it soon. |
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Refund, I told you before, you were totally right about hip-hop from the beginning. It sucks, is complete crap, has no artistic value, is not creative, is pointless, is stupid, is for morons, is a lower form of music, is inferior to IDM, etc. Please, don't take it all back now, you were so right before. This message also brought to you by Travis' campaign to tell people what they want to hear. |
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I remember that little argument,. |
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sorry, i like to poke gentle fun. welcome to hip-hop, please enjoy your stay. |
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i know no one listens to a word i say when it comes to hip-hop because most of you prefer instrumental hip-hop or white rappers, but i just want to reiterate that common's last album (electric circus) is phenomenal and something you would all enjoy for its electronics, hard beats, intelligent lyrics, and (on half of the tracks) ferocious raps. umm... at least download common's "soul power" cos i'm listening to it now. |
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oh yea, and cos he takes subliminal jabs at ja rule on the song, and i know how much you all hate ja rule. holla. |
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There's a good chance that The Unseen is my favorite hip hop album of all time.. I could go on for days about it. |
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deffinately. quasimoto - the unseen is brilliant. possibly my favorite too. at least at the moment. |
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have you heard the soul assasins family? Cypress Hill House of Pain Funkdoobiest they more or less all start sucking after their 2nd albums, but before that it's good stuff. |
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three classics: Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions Common - Resurrection Nas - Illmatic These are money top to bottom. I agree on Unseen, excellent record. There's also Yesterday's New Quintet, another of Madlib's alter-egos, a sample-based jazz record which is patchy in parts but still well worth getting, even if only for the liner notes. |
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Harmonic 33... |
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Q-Bert - Wavetwisters Kid Koala - Carpal Tunnel Syndrome |
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cool man i'll chekitout |
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<-- has yesterday's new quintet in the tape teck of his truck right now |
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OMG! |
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You have a TRUCK? |
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boom bip & doseone's circle is nice |
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i wanted to clarify that Yesterday's New Quintet is NOT "another of Madlib's alter-egos." he's a producer and frequent musical collaborator but it's an actual group. |
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yes |
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its not an actuall group, bruv... just madlib.. honest. |
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Malik Flowers, Ahmad Miller, Joe McDuffey and Monk Hughes... = Madlib I promise. There's a lot of press sent out by Stones Throw to create the illusion that this is an actual group, but it's not. |
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admittedly, i underestimate madlib's contributions to YNQ.. i mean it is essentially him (as a producer and multi-instrumentalist), but to say it's just madlib isn't quite true. jason your car looks like something out of jurassic park. |
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muahaha |
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ok, i believe you. <------- "SCARED STRAIGHT" |
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your car looks like something out of jurassic park. you should have seen the fucking velociraptor that put me in that ditch.. |
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hahaha |
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I still dont see any good hip-hop suggestions, then again I dont really know what Refund was referring to soo....yeah.... =) |
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I was wanting some DJ shadow esque hip hop.. |
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doc. oc. deltron 3030 and Hello Nasty by the beastie boys had some ILLLLLL beats |
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well I went out and bought endtroducing, I'm listening to it right now, I'm up to "changeling" at the moment, so far this record has blown me away, "building Steam with a Grain of salt was pure bliss, and then "Number song" knocked me off my socks,.. this is truly amazing stuff |
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Check: Cee-Lo Dj Honda Busta Rhymes Blackalicious RZA Common (also called Common Sense from back in the days) |
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heh.. told ya buddy. That album is a classic. |
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IMO wanting some DJ Shadow-esque hip hop is like wanting some Moby-esque IDM. He's good but he's missing an essential component: the MC. Here's some classic hip hop: Mobb Deep - The Infamous Talib Kweli & DJ Hi Tek - Reflection Eternal Gang Starr - Hard To Earn Common - Resurrection Notorious BIG - Ready To Die Nas - Illmatic Outkast - ATLiens Wu Tang Clan - 36 Chambers GZA - Liquid Swords Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders Souls of Mischief - '93 till infinity |
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yeah, cheers pomme, this release is so fucking rad, I'm loving it.. |
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thirdball: It's the MC that I don't like about most hip hop, this is probably why I've been drawn into DJ shadow so much |
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Fair enough - but honestly check out Nas Illmatic - it's too good to just dismiss. |
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