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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-02 10:31 [#00629151]
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I've always steered away from hip hop, most of what I've heeard has been quite lame, and I've been shown very little to generate any interest in the genre, but I recently heard DJ shadow's "Private Press" and was blown away, now I want to score myself some more decent hip hop....
suggestions?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-02 10:36 [#00629156]
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If you likes private press check out
prefuse 73 - vocal studies and uprock narritives
dj shadow - introducing
and this is hard to find but if you come across it pick up
presage - outer perimeter
there are a billion things i could suggest reall, but this will probably get you off on the right track
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-04-02 10:37 [#00629157]
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Check out Bran Van 3000's first album ("Glee"). There's a lot to mention... Two of my fav tracks are "Still Dre" (Snoop Dog & Dr Dre) and Damn it feels good to be a gangsta (Get Boys)...
There's lot more to, but most new hiphop is boring if you ask me.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-02 10:38 [#00629160]
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prefuse 73 has a new one coming out as well soon on warp recoprds ,,,
try the hypntech series on hypnotech records which is an offshoot of underground resistance - also stuff by dabrye,,,,all kinda crossover hip hop electronic stuff
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-02 10:40 [#00629161]
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ta pomme
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Tommib
from Canterbury (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-02 10:41 [#00629163]
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get anything by Dj Shadow, it's all good
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-02 10:43 [#00629165]
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I think I'll go nuts buying all his stuff when I return to work and get some money again
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-02 10:52 [#00629170]
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one of my local record stores has a whole heap of old/rare DJ shadow EP's up for sale, It probably won't be there for any longer than a couple of months, are there any essential B-sides that I should grab before I miss the oppurtunity?
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chapman
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-02 10:55 [#00629172]
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get hold of RJD2 - Dead Ringer
it will blow you away. His live sets are also phenominal
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-02 10:57 [#00629174]
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Quasimoto - the unseen Dr. Octogon deltron 3030 talib kweli and hi tek - reflection eternal the streets handsome boy modeling school - so how's your girl?
this is my favorite stuff. (shrug)
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-02 11:00 [#00629177]
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DR Octagon he rules! and his dj is the master of the turn tables DJ q bert... nuf said...
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-02 11:04 [#00629182]
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RJD2 - I've heard this band is a bitch to find over here in australia, they don't print it over here so I'd have to order it in, could you recommend me a track to see what they're like?
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-04-02 11:06 [#00629186]
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herbaliser
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danoptic
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-02 11:26 [#00629221]
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It really depends on what you want out of hip-hop. It looks like you're leaning towards the sample-heavy instrumental side, in which case your best bet is looking at Shadow, RJD2, DJ Krush and anything produced by Dan the Automator (including those mentioned above: Handsome Boy Modelling School, Deltron, Dr Octagon and also Lovage featuring Mike Patton on vox).
If you want some intelligent lyrics, check these titles to start with:
Aesop Rock - Float Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus J-Live - The Best Part Latyrx: The Album Blackalicious: A2G EP (if you can get it)
These last two are part of Shadow's crew and he does some of their beats.
Since you're in Australia, you should check some Australian stuff. Dave and Katch from the Resin Dogs have two quite good mainly instrumental CDs out under the name 2Dogz. They are distributed by Virgin so shouldn't be too hard to find. A guy out of Melbourne called Plutonic Lab has an excellent instrumental album out as well. Also:
Lazy Grey - On or Off Tap (Brisbane) Lyrical Commission's new CD, I think it's self-titled (Melbourne)
Celsius - self titled (Sydney)
UK hip-hop is excellent and relatively easy to find in Australia. Check for anything on the Lowlife label (Braintax's Birofunk LP, Jehst's Return of the Drifter, Taskforce's Voice of the Great Outdoors EP) and of course Roots Manuva is a champ.
Creative Vibes has just picked up the rights to distribute some Def Jux releases in Australia, including RJD2's Dead Ringer, so you should be able to find it soon.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-02 11:30 [#00629224]
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Refund, I told you before, you were totally right about hip-hop from the beginning. It sucks, is complete crap, has no artistic value, is not creative, is pointless, is stupid, is for morons, is a lower form of music, is inferior to IDM, etc. Please, don't take it all back now, you were so right before.
This message also brought to you by Travis' campaign to tell people what they want to hear.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-02 11:32 [#00629230]
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I remember that little argument,.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-02 11:33 [#00629232]
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sorry, i like to poke gentle fun. welcome to hip-hop, please enjoy your stay.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-02 11:36 [#00629234]
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i know no one listens to a word i say when it comes to hip-hop because most of you prefer instrumental hip-hop or white rappers, but i just want to reiterate that common's last album (electric circus) is phenomenal and something you would all enjoy for its electronics, hard beats, intelligent lyrics, and (on half of the tracks) ferocious raps. umm... at least download common's "soul power" cos i'm listening to it now.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-02 11:39 [#00629238]
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oh yea, and cos he takes subliminal jabs at ja rule on the song, and i know how much you all hate ja rule. holla.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-02 12:06 [#00629269]
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There's a good chance that The Unseen is my favorite hip hop album of all time.. I could go on for days about it.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-02 12:32 [#00629305]
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deffinately. quasimoto - the unseen is brilliant. possibly my favorite too. at least at the moment.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-02 12:52 [#00629333]
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have you heard the soul assasins family?
Cypress Hill House of Pain Funkdoobiest
they more or less all start sucking after their 2nd albums, but before that it's good stuff.
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danoptic
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-02 13:19 [#00629350]
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three classics:
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions Common - Resurrection Nas - Illmatic
These are money top to bottom.
I agree on Unseen, excellent record. There's also Yesterday's New Quintet, another of Madlib's alter-egos, a sample-based jazz record which is patchy in parts but still well worth getting, even if only for the liner notes.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-02 14:15 [#00629386]
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Harmonic 33...
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-02 14:24 [#00629394]
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Q-Bert - Wavetwisters Kid Koala - Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-02 14:34 [#00629403]
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cool man i'll chekitout
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-02 14:37 [#00629410]
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<-- has yesterday's new quintet in the tape teck of his truck right now
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-02 14:39 [#00629416]
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OMG!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-02 14:40 [#00629419]
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You have a TRUCK?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-02 14:42 [#00629421]
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boom bip & doseone's circle is nice
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-02 14:44 [#00629424]
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i wanted to clarify that Yesterday's New Quintet is NOT "another of Madlib's alter-egos." he's a producer and frequent musical collaborator but it's an actual group.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-02 14:44 [#00629425]
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yes
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-02 14:46 [#00629430]
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its not an actuall group, bruv... just madlib.. honest.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-02 14:48 [#00629438]
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check again
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-02 14:52 [#00629442]
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Malik Flowers, Ahmad Miller, Joe McDuffey and Monk Hughes...
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Madlib
I promise. There's a lot of press sent out by Stones Throw to create the illusion that this is an actual group, but it's not.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-02 14:53 [#00629445]
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admittedly, i underestimate madlib's contributions to YNQ.. i mean it is essentially him (as a producer and multi-instrumentalist), but to say it's just madlib isn't quite true.
jason your car looks like something out of jurassic park.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-02 14:55 [#00629448]
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muahaha
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-02 14:57 [#00629452]
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ok, i believe you.
<------- "SCARED STRAIGHT"
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-02 14:57 [#00629454]
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your car looks like something out of jurassic park.
you should have seen the fucking velociraptor that put me in that ditch..
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-04-02 15:17 [#00629474]
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hahaha
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-04-02 15:19 [#00629477]
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I still dont see any good hip-hop suggestions, then again I dont really know what Refund was referring to soo....yeah.... =)
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-02 15:25 [#00629484]
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I was wanting some DJ shadow esque hip hop..
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-04-02 19:09 [#00629646]
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doc. oc. deltron 3030 and Hello Nasty by the beastie boys had some ILLLLLL beats
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-03 05:46 [#00630295]
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well I went out and bought endtroducing, I'm listening to it right now, I'm up to "changeling" at the moment, so far this record has blown me away, "building Steam with a Grain of salt was pure bliss, and then "Number song" knocked me off my socks,.. this is truly amazing stuff
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-04-03 06:46 [#00630402]
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Check: Cee-Lo Dj Honda Busta Rhymes Blackalicious RZA Common (also called Common Sense from back in the days)
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-03 07:18 [#00630445]
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heh.. told ya buddy. That album is a classic.
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-04-03 07:46 [#00630491]
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IMO wanting some DJ Shadow-esque hip hop is like wanting some Moby-esque IDM. He's good but he's missing an essential component: the MC.
Here's some classic hip hop: Mobb Deep - The Infamous Talib Kweli & DJ Hi Tek - Reflection Eternal Gang Starr - Hard To Earn Common - Resurrection Notorious BIG - Ready To Die Nas - Illmatic Outkast - ATLiens Wu Tang Clan - 36 Chambers GZA - Liquid Swords Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders Souls of Mischief - '93 till infinity
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-03 07:52 [#00630501]
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yeah, cheers pomme, this release is so fucking rad, I'm loving it..
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-03 07:58 [#00630507]
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thirdball: It's the MC that I don't like about most hip hop, this is probably why I've been drawn into DJ shadow so much
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-04-03 08:01 [#00630510]
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Fair enough - but honestly check out Nas Illmatic - it's too good to just dismiss.
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