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offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-31 15:53 [#00626141]
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Is anyone else besides me worried about this? A mysterious
disease that is spreading around the world killing people.
Well... 'only' 1400 people have been infected so far, and
something like 50 have died... so it's not a very fast
epidemy. But still, there is no cure and no way of stopping
it yet. So i find this scary :-/

It was just on the news this night that someone in belgium
has been infected (the neighbouring country from where i
live... and we even have belgium members of this board)...
it's coming so close now.


 

offline Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-31 15:54 [#00626142]
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Belgium?

*Run and hide*


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-31 15:56 [#00626146]
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yeah, this is really serious! i thought it was just in hong
kong, and could be dealt with, but its transferred to
everywhere now!

all the news coverage is about the war too, this epidemic
barely gets a look in.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-03-31 15:56 [#00626149]
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we had one infected woman here-but apperantly she's ok
now...



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-31 15:58 [#00626155]
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"but its transferred to everywhere now!"

yeah... it's those airplanes. This is the 21st century, and
distances don't really exist anymore.

I think it needs to become more serious before the media
starts paying attention.



 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2003-03-31 15:58 [#00626157]
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there is a big epidemic here - i went to toronto today - and
everyone was panicking on my school bus - it was a fun trip
:D


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-31 16:00 [#00626159]
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yeah my friend said that canada was in a pretty bad state,
in relation to this epidemic


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-31 16:01 [#00626164]
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In singapore all the schools have been closed because of
it.

And in... ehr... tokyo? (not sure about that), an entire
building (it looked really high... a skyscraper almost) has
been sealed off and put under quarantaine.


 

offline aron from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-03-31 16:01 [#00626166]
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last week i got a really bad fever and i told everyone i had
sars
some people thought it was funny, and some didnt



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-31 16:04 [#00626169]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



an epidemologist said a worldwide epidemic is statistically
supposed to happen about every 40 years. last one was late
50s, so..

it is pretty scary. 12 monkeys.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-31 16:06 [#00626174]
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it worries me a bit.

imagin an infected pèrson in a plane, or in a football
stadium...

this society of us is so vulnerable


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-03-31 16:07 [#00626175]
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so who's responsible for all this?
bush&co figured that out already?


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-31 16:08 [#00626178]
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"a worldwide epidemic is statistically
supposed to happen about every 40 years
"

yeah, that makes sense. Like natures way of dealing with
overpopulation. Maybe it's very vain of us to think we can
do something about it.

hehe, yeah 12 monkeys is a good one. I had to think of
Outbreak myself when i first heard about it ;-)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-31 16:10 [#00626182]
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haha, yes it's obviously a new biological weapon of
mass-destruction secretly developped by sadam and osama.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-03-31 16:13 [#00626185]
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perhaps koreans have something to do with this...
they better watch out!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-31 16:13 [#00626187]
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well the flu virus keeps evolving, trying to outsmart our
antibiotics.

if SARS is The One Virus, this could get very nasty.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-31 16:13 [#00626189]
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and their contacts in asia..... no doubt they'll link it to
north korea+china.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-03-31 16:19 [#00626199]
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I'm even considering buying a "doctor's mask", damn I hate
those airborne diseases. Yesterday, talking to my neighbour
she suddenly said she had pneumonia, so you can imagine how
I bolted and tried not to panic {:-(


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-31 16:23 [#00626201]
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"well the flu virus keeps evolving, trying to outsmart
our antibiotics.
"

Yes i knew about that. And medicine-companies don't really
invest anymore in developping new types of antibiotics,
because there isn't much profit to be made from that.

The most frustrating thing about that though, is that the
main reason this happens is people don't finnish all the
antibiotics they have been prescribed. When they feel better
they stop taking it... so the remaining virus in their
bodies grows resistent to the antibiotics.

People are so stupid...

"this could get very nasty."

I know :-(
This really scares me alot
what if...?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-03-31 16:26 [#00626204]
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dont worry, we will be saved...once again...


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-31 16:27 [#00626207]
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another thing that scares me maybe more is the possibility
of mass hysteria this can cause round the world.

you already see a very light version of this in X-tomatic's
reaction to his neighbour. the paranoia grows.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-31 16:30 [#00626212]
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yeah, lets hope the media doesnt create false moral panics,
or make any ethnic groups in 'folk devils'...


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-03-31 16:30 [#00626213]
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i don't want to be pessimistic but i think we're all gonna
die


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-03-31 16:34 [#00626227]
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that, my friend, is certain


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-31 16:35 [#00626231]
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oh welll, today in psychology i watched a programme about
narcolepsy. my life needs to go on no longer!


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-31 16:40 [#00626242]
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"we will be saved...once again..."

once again?
How's that? When were we saved from a deadly virus for the
last time? :-)

I do hope you're right though


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-03-31 16:42 [#00626245]
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americans are saving us as we speak-as soon as they clear
iraq, im sure they'll be on this virus in no time!


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-31 16:43 [#00626246]
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quite ironic.... our governments have been stocking up on
small pox vacinations, and now a another DIFFERENT epidemic
breaks out.



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-31 16:43 [#00626248]
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lol, aha, i see ;-)
It's all part of the axis of evil!


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-31 16:46 [#00626255]
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well it'd be nice if there existed a vaccination for SARS in
the first place :-)

But i see what you mean. Virusses are so unpredictable. A
few years ago i thought this ebola-virus was going to become
a worldwide-epidemic for sure... and now it turns out a
totally new unknown virus appears and travels all over the
world.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-03-31 16:46 [#00626256]
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yes them pesky North-Korean commies are at it again!
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously
conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to
face?"


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-03-31 16:47 [#00626257]
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it's so scary how this movie just keeps being up to date


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-01 21:22 [#00628257]
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*wonders if anyone saw the scare today at the SJC airport*

eeeeeeeeeek

i dunno, germs can't be contained folks, it's getting here
one way or another TAKE YOUR VITAMINS!!!


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-02 06:07 [#00628884]
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There was a huge story about this on the frontcover of my
newspaper tomorrow (and the war only got 2 small collumns on
the frontpage). Scary stuff. I didn't realise there have
also been 6 cases reported in germany (our other
neigbouring country). Dutch hospitals are already preparing
quarantaine-rooms for any patients they might get.

"germs can't be contained folks"

That's what scares me. Maybe they should shut down
commercial airlines altogether for a little while.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-04-02 09:57 [#00629112]
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where can I obtain surgical masks and gloves? *feeling like
Michael Jackson didn't overreact after all*


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-02 12:58 [#00629339]
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A couple of hockey players on the Buffalo Sabres went into
voluntary quarantine... imagine if a hockey player (or
baseball or whatever) passed it onto their whole team, how
that would throw off the season/playoffs.

I almost want it to happen just for kicks, because I'm a
sadist.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-02 22:57 [#00629766]
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WHAT ?!?!

are you nuts.......shut down air travel?? bad bad idea

listen i survived one hellavah deadly outbreak about ummm
2-3 yrs ago. 98% of the people that got it died (it had
people running outta the state i live in, like really fast)
they finally figured out what it was Hanta Virus - and what
caused it, and now it's not a problem.

it's not good to let FEAR control your life. if you're gonna
get something, doesn't matter if you stay in your house or
travel the world.......it's gonna happen. as i
said.....germs can get in ANYWHERE......just stay away from
infected peepz DOOD!


 

offline Dinosaur from United Kingdom on 2003-04-02 23:38 [#00629810]
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for latest stats:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/03/23/mystery.virus.breakdow
n/index.html

as of this message:

Total number of reported cases: 2,325

Confirmed death toll: 78



 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:46 [#00629826]
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the rolling stones are running scared......cancelled their
two? concerts in china =/


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-04-02 23:52 [#00629834]
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my aunt might have this.. she lives in atlanta where there
was a major (?) outbreak.. or at least it was one of the
notable american cities w/ a sizable amount of infections..
she thinks it's pneumonia.. and she said sh'es never felt
this sick.. and SARS has pneumonia-and flu-like symptoms
so.. I dont know

is anyone else thinking retaliatory bio-terrorism? planes
are being downed all over because of this.. an airplane
seems to be one sure place of getting this SARS

I dont think it's completely airbourne right nwo.. but it
can be transmitted via droplets eg vapor from a cough or
from a sneeze etc..


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:59 [#00629843]
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airplanes have recycled air (which is not healthy anyway)

it's not bio terrorism IMO.....i mean we are breeding
horrible diseases by making and TAKING so many damn
meds.....people are getting immune to penicillan, it's a
wonder any kind of anti biotic works anymore with all the
shite people take.

i try taking as lil med's as possible so when i need an
asprin to WORK, it will.....and i won't have to down 6 like
is see some fools doing.

think about it.....if it was bio terrorism.....they'd put
something in the WATER......kill more peepz


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-03 02:24 [#00629962]
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"are you nuts.......shut down air travel?? bad bad
idea
"

well i'm not an expert at all :-) Maybe it is a stupid idea,
i don't know. But let's say hypothetically, things do get
really ugly with this virus, and it ends up killing millions
of people all over the world.

And when historians look back at it 200 years from now...
they will realise the disease could have been contained to
just china if all flights to/from china would have
been cancelled. But we didn't do that because we thought
being able to fly was too important... but because of it the
virus gets spread all over world. I don't know... it just
seems stupid to me. But i realise i have a very amateuristic
viewpoint... shutting down commercial airlines will no doubt
have much more consequences than i can possibly imagine :-/


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-03 02:28 [#00629970]
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"just stay away from infected peepz DOOD!"

I watched a discussion about this last night on the tv. And
there was this specialist who said the most dangerous thing
about SARS could be that it doesn't seem to kill everyone
who gets it.
(like dinosaur said: 2,325 reported cases, and only 78
people died).

That could mean some people could be a carrier of the
disease without knowing it (they would just get a slight
cold which would go away without medical help)... but they
are infected, so they are spreading the virus
around. There'd be no way to possibly contain it in that
case... scary stuff :-s

But that specialist admitted it was just a worst case
scenario at this point, because they just don't understand
the virus well enough yet to know how it'll behave.


 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 03:06 [#00630029]
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SARS?

You mean Hong Kong Fluey -- far nicer name


 

offline Salma Hayek on 2003-04-03 03:24 [#00630069]
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anyone who read the first 400 pages of Stephen King's "The
Stand" would be pissing their pants over this virus....

the book was about a virus with symptoms like that of the
common cold that kills most of humanity and other freaky
far-out stuff...


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-03 23:10 [#00631709]
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now thats a PUNNY name =0)

salma - i've read that, and seen the mini series.......DOES
sound oddly famil. however this is not like ebola or even
the hanta virus......it's not killing mass amounts of
people......YET!

lets hope they get a handle on it!

surrounded - it will spread w/out air travel, and right now
with the industry the way it is, it's just not a good idea
to stop/slow down air travel. people just need to be smart
and take precautions. and if you don't REALLY need to go to
China......don't go right now!


 


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