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Archrival
on 2003-03-28 15:50 [#00622105]
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DAM!! that was a disturbing film!!! I just got to see all of David Lynchs movies, I really like Mullholland Drive and now im on a mission to see all of his movies. Wich are youre favourite Lynch movies? Blue Velvet, Wild At Heart, Dune etc ???
ERASER head was like a really really fucked up trip, like someone said, if Confield was a movie this would be it!!
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Archrival
on 2003-03-28 15:51 [#00622108]
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heres a review of it from imbd:
One of the better arguments I've heard against all David Lynch movies is that all the artsy fartsy explanations are empty because despite over intellectualizing the movie at their core really are plottless and that no one understands them because David Lynch is f**kin crazy! It can be then stated that if people watch something they don't understand and like it anyway then that can mean they can be watching any images on the screen and it wouldn't matter. It's like putting a baby in front of the TV, the baby isn't so intrested in what's actually on the screen as much as it's intrested in the fact that anything is on the screen at all. It's all just fodder for dumb monkeys with Nikes. This theory seems pretty airtight to me because admittedly I don't have any idea what's going on most of the time in David Lynch movies. This one I think I have a pretty good idea. I often hear the word nightmare mentioned along side Eraserhead. Most of the time the word as used as a generic term without much thought. But if you think about nighmares or dreams in general you might think of times where you've had dreams that you just don't understand because nothing makes sense in them. For instance you might have a dream that seems allmost perfectly rational, but always there will be one or two elements that don't quite fit in. Like you're having a dream where your having sex with your best friend's kid sister in her room, but then she asks you about your eye color and suddenly her room is your third grade class and your covered in ants. Doesn't make two bits of sense and is so non-linear that it's beyond comprehension. So instead of the term nightmarish being generically used, it actually is acurately applied. All that aside you can start think about this movie on drugs. Anyone who as ever done acid can claim two things. One, is that under the world of drugs nothing makes two much sense in the immediate sense, only the overall reality is understood, if at all. Two, we've all heard
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 15:51 [#00622110]
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fire walk with me mullholland elephant man twin peaks series
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-28 15:51 [#00622111]
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eraserhead blue velvet mulholland drive the elephant man lost highway
that's how i rank them.. i can't remember any other i've seen at the moment. glad you liked it!
d00d i've been trying to get some of your music for a week and a half now...
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Archrival
on 2003-03-28 15:52 [#00622113]
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drugs nothing makes two much sense in the immediate sense, only the overall reality is understood, if at all. Two, we've all heard the stories of somebody's bad trip. Usually something along the lines of, he thought the couch was trying to eat him so he attacked it with my uncle's set of ginsu's. Well put these two idea's together and a thought forms. How little sense does the world make to someone on a bad trip of acid, let alone the WORST TRIP EVER!!!!!!? I think you hear me knocking. This movie began production around 1972, right around the end Woodstock generation and the heyday of LSD consumption. It's not all that unlikely that this is either Lynch recounting his own acid trip which would explain his subsequeent insanity, or a tale Lynch might have heard from a friend of a friend.
PS Show this movie to your twelve year old child after having explained how great the wonders of hallucinogens are, and that they're all like this. Chances are you kid will never touch the stuff.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 15:52 [#00622114]
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oops! i forgot... lost highway and straight story rock!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 15:55 [#00622120]
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that guy has NO idea what lynch's films are about... his stuff has NOTHING to do with drugs. he doesnt do them, and his movies arent about them. equating them to acid is a childish and simple way of trying to reason with them, which you cant do. they are complex and weave stories you cant narrow down to something like "trippy". its like ae, like you said...
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-03-28 15:56 [#00622123]
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lost highway's my favorite.
the twin peaks series rules, too, though.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-03-28 16:04 [#00622142]
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- twin peaks series - the straight story - eraserhead - mulholland drive - dune
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-28 16:10 [#00622159]
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Like: Mulholland Drive, Fire Walk With Me, Wild At Heart, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway.
Dislike: Dune
Haven't seen: The Elephant Man, The Straight Story
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Archrival
on 2003-03-28 16:13 [#00622164]
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YEAH I TOTALLY AGREE!!! I just posted that review because I thought it was a silly weak review and that´its sad that he cant enjoy abstract art
Theres tons of stuff that makes sense in this movie and lot of things u can get out of it,im tellin yall tomorrow
good night
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-03-28 16:59 [#00622216]
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here's my rankings:
1. Fire Walk With Me. Totally incredible, though you REALLY need to be familiar with the entire Twin Peaks series to fully appreciate it. This one's my all time favorite... some of the best sequences ever done in Lynch's work. The last scene gets me weepy every time.
2. The Twin Peaks pilot. The beginning of a beautiful mystery... tv has never seen anything this good since.
3. Mulholland Dr. Even people who typically dislike Lynch films still give props to this one... it's just so well done.
4. Blue Velvet. A Masterpiece. Lynch's use of color in the film is incredible, and Dennis Hopper has the best opening line of any character ever: "It's DADDY shithead! Where's my bourbon?!"
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-03-28 17:02 [#00622217]
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BTW, Eraserhead, or any other Lynch film, has ZERO to do with drugs. Whoever says that is projecting their own issues. Lynch is a friggin boy scout.
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-28 17:46 [#00622257]
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exactly, the same thing happens with underworld's music - everyone thinks they're on loads of drugs whilst they did them, but they were only pissed and never stoned
I hate it when people go for the drugs connection - like, anything that is brilliant (like Eraserhead, underworld and a billion other things) only come from those wonderful places you go when you take drugs
shame,
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Scabs Codeine
from L.A. (United States) on 2003-03-28 17:54 [#00622271]
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Did anyone get his collection of short films? I got it a month or two ago, well worth getting.
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-28 18:08 [#00622283]
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is that the cinema 16 thing or something completely different...?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 18:16 [#00622290]
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scabs: it rocks, huh?
didnt like the grandmother, though... i thought it was boring. "lumiere" (watched it 3 times in a row) and "the frenchman..." were my favs.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-28 18:26 [#00622302]
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man thats fucking weird. i just saw this movie for the 2nd time about an hour ago.
(i still dont get it but i enjoyed it and hated it at the same time)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 18:28 [#00622304]
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"LITTLE DAMN THINGS... SMALL AS A FIST, BUT THEY'RE NEW!!!!!"
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Scabs Codeine
from L.A. (United States) on 2003-03-28 18:30 [#00622310]
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tibbar, "lumiere" was my favorite too. I would love too see a full feature done like that. So creepy. I liked "grandma" though but I wasn't crazy about "the Frenchman".
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 18:31 [#00622312]
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i thought frenchman was hilarious!!!! stanton was great, nance was great... it was DIFFERENT as heck... funny. i like his comedic work. ever read "one saliva bubble" or "ronnie rocket"???
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-03-28 18:54 [#00622334]
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My favs on the Short Films DVD are Lumiere and The Grandmother. I'm not a big fan of the Frenchman. I don't like when Lynch tries full on "comedy", though the humor in his dramatic films is excellent :) Wild at Heart comes to mind... Mulholland Dr also has some very funny moments.
BTW, I have read the Ronnie Rocket script... INSANE. I don't think it would even be possible to put on film. Speaking of, how cool is it that VSnares titled one of his songs "Make Ronnie Rocket"? Anyway, I got a kick out of that the first time I saw it :P
While we are on the subject... lets discuss all the Lynch references/samples in electronic music :) Some of my favs:
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing. Last track on the album, fades out... about a minute or so of silence, then a sample from Twin Peaks. The Giant: "It is happening again." Then we hear the record player skipping... just moments before Maddie is killed. Mmmmm LOVE IT :P
Amon Tobin - Permutation. Samples music from Blue Velvet, and has a track titled "People Like Frank (Blue Velvet) and Like Regular Chickens (Eraserhead).
Biosphere - Substrata. Contains samples from the Twin Peaks series. One of the Giant, one of Major Briggs describing a dream to his son Bobby.
Anyone have some others? And please don't bring up Moby - Go...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 19:01 [#00622339]
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ew. moby used a lynch sample?????? yuck! um... how about those 2 anthrax songs about lynch flicks? "black lodge" and (i think its called) "now it's dark"
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 19:04 [#00622343]
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the chorus on now its dark is : "now its dark/mommy/dont you f***in' look at me" hahahahahahaha how lame!!!
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-03-28 19:06 [#00622345]
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tibber: yeah moby uses a twin peaks theme in his classic song "go". don't diss it unless you've heard it. it's really good
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-03-28 19:07 [#00622347]
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You've only just seen this film!!?? You seem to come across as educated/experienced/big-headed in popular culture/film/music etc. but eraserhead is the architypical art student film you should have seen ages ago!!! I'm not dissin' you but your old posts have lost a bit of credibiliy for me.....
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-03-28 19:23 [#00622360]
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Yes, he pretty much bases the song around a sample from the Laura Palmer theme song. I can't stand it personally, but that's just me.... when a (IMHO) substandard artist samples from one of my favorite songs to make a house tune (complete with hand-clapping sounds) it irks me.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-03-28 20:22 [#00622407]
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all lynch is good, I dont really have a ranking but I still need to see the 2 seasons of the twin peaks series and the short films dvd.
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Charles D Ward
from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-03-28 21:00 [#00622431]
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Lynch... I'm changing my avatar back to The Elephant Man atm
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 22:51 [#00622522]
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aw... charles i liked that chick you had.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 22:55 [#00622525]
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yer still as cool as a fool in a swimming pool, so pass the blunt to tha nigga on da left!!!!
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Charles D Ward
from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-03-28 23:00 [#00622529]
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Diastole? I can send you a pic if you want
u r teh cool omfg u r so cool
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-03-28 23:09 [#00622530]
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i really like lost highway
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 23:43 [#00622535]
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i need to hold trey parker and matt stone hostage and get them to say tibbar like "timmay!"
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2003-03-28 23:45 [#00622536]
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yeah, imo Dune was 'meh'
loved wild @ heart though.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 23:47 [#00622537]
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wild at heart was just on bravo the other night. i love the part with jack nance where he does his "toto" rant. hahahaha fabulous. santos bugs me out, too. just the first 5 minutes of that movie, and you KNOW its gonna OWN U!!!!!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-28 23:54 [#00622538]
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CHAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-03-29 08:52 [#00622817]
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Lost Highway by far - but then again, I haven't seen Mulholland Drive yet..
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-03-29 09:19 [#00622826]
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Mulholland Drive rules.. I think it's my fav Lynch movie... not sure though!
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-03-29 10:05 [#00622870]
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"ERASER head was like a really really fucked up trip, like someone said, if Confield was a movie this would be it!!"
I said that [when i was called 135633 in this thread: http://xltronic.com/mb/topic.php3?topic=28120&start=0]
Once i heard Confield, all i could see was Eraserhead; it could've easily been the soundtrack..
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