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Jedi Chris
on 2003-03-27 17:03 [#00620222]
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Yes
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-27 17:04 [#00620223]
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check the last thread flea was posting in...you'll see what happened
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-03-27 17:05 [#00620224]
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well well, so he got banned for that? amazing... all this drama over something that shouldnt have even been a fucking issue in the first place. cool.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:06 [#00620226]
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Read my post earlier in this topic about WHY Ceri banned him.
Trust me... Flea got more than enough warning and it was not unfair at all. Ceri was being easy on him.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-03-27 17:06 [#00620227]
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Nice avatar Teapot...good film!
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:07 [#00620228]
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ive never seen ophecks act unfairly moderating this board, and i think we all know he wasn't acting with some secret political motive in mind lol
in fact hes one of the least political members of this board
if flea was starting as many threads as he did about any other heated topic when ONE thread, or maybe a couple was all he really needed, how do you think the moderators would have dealt with that?
especially if he was asked before to keep it in the same thread?
someone said shame on us for treating him the way we supposedly did... if anyone is to be ashamed its flea for being so childish and dramatic about it
you guys sensationalize stuff that goes on here so much when yoru not happy about it
now we're all "drones"? all your time here was "wasted"??
lol phobiazero is trying to control our minds by wanting to keep the threads tidy??
LOL suddenly most of the people here aren't creative or artistic anymore just cus some of them disagree w/ you on one issue??? what a pathetic attempt at emotional manipulation
oooooh im so hurt, i want to be creative and artistic, i wish i had an independant mind like flea, who martyed his membership for freedom of speech!
but alas, i am a mere drone! a mind-slave of the moderators!
with the help of the brainwashing media of course...
wtf your topics were as biased and sensationalist as the worst CNN has to dish out
british pilots are "incopetant" because of a few accidents within hundreds of missions a day?
oh, its just the military lying: saddam shot them down in the middle of the coalition fleet in the persian gulf
if your all for independant thought are you so sensationalist, exagerating and dramatic?
theres nothign wrong with being opposed to the war but cant you talk about it without resorting to bullshit tactics?
we shouldn't have to market our views on things
if your opinion is rational you shouldn't have to market it!
not that this was about views in teh first place
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:08 [#00620229]
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OOPS sorry for the double post.....
to me it looked like it didn't post the first time so i tried again!
connection problem i guess..
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-03-27 17:08 [#00620230]
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interesting.
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-27 17:10 [#00620233]
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give me one reason why i should tell you anything. seriously.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:12 [#00620238]
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yeah i think a part of my tongue has fallen off by now ;)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-03-27 17:12 [#00620239]
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War ruined Xltronic dot com ! OUCH !!
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-03-27 17:15 [#00620242]
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i just read backposts... i see his banning as unecessary and pointless. this place should be about freedom of speach right? i think theres a lot more "pointless" topics that need to be addressed before you start getting rid of LONG TIME members who have done a lot for the "community"
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:16 [#00620243]
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''ive never seen ophecks act unfairly moderating this board, and i think we all know he wasn't acting with some secret
political motive in mind lol in fact hes one of the least political members of this
board''
Haha, seriously... I thought everyone was making stuff up and Ceri wanted to end it. A war! Where?!??
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:18 [#00620246]
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lol yeah didn't mean to post that a second time :)
teapot: he chose to leave! apparently doing what a moderator politely asks and keeping all the additions to a topic in the same thread is too much of an infringement on his freedom
damn my pathetic drone-mind for not being able to comprehend what true freedom is...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:22 [#00620249]
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His ban lasted a whopping 7 days... one week. 1/4 of a month. 1/52nd of a year. Hardly ''getting rid'' of a longtime member.
And we do what we can about ''pointless'' topics, but there's only so much we can do. Totally pointless topics are usually shot down on the spot. Less whining and prima donna showboating, more good convo ideas, that's what we need. No more ''the board sucks, I'm leaving'' topics, that doesn't help. Go then, if you're not willing to help.
And they always come back... and they always keep reading.
What's so bad about one or two BIG long running war topics? Seriously, why can't he settle for that? It would be nice to have all those links in one place. He can talk about war all he wants in there, just like the World Cup and Star Wars topics.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-03-27 17:23 [#00620250]
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yes ceri was being polite, and i know he didnt mean any harm, but why the issue... ITS A THREAD!... and for flea to get driven to the point where he leaves is just... well its a shame for the board.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:24 [#00620253]
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...and its not our fault he felt he had to leave forever over it
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:25 [#00620256]
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"Less whining and prima donna showboating, more good convo ideas, that's what we need."
lol EXACTLY
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-03-27 17:31 [#00620261]
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"WAR" isnt something you can cram into 1 or 2 topics... its not the world cup and its certainly not star wars.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:32 [#00620262]
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A shame for HIM more than the board. A friend kindly asks you to take it easy on the war topic creation and you make two more just and dare him to ban you... pfft. Lame.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-03-27 17:34 [#00620264]
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he wasnt daring to get banned he was doing exactly what you wanted him to do... he was compressing the entire war down into 2 topics.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:34 [#00620265]
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...its not like the additional topics were covering brand some new, previously unexplored aspect of the war
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:34 [#00620267]
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He wasn't starting any unique conversations or anything... just giving links to something that don't merit a whole new one, but would be a great addition to an existing one.
''US drops bomb on reporter''
''US fucks up''
''US kills Iraqi holding up White Flag''
''US detonates nuke accidentally in a nursery''
etc
There was a pattern.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:37 [#00620268]
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I didn't read everything that happened... it wasn't my ''shift'', so to speak, and I was busy. I know I read something about ''go ahead and ban me, Ceri'', but like I said, I wasn't the mod on duty there.
Why doesn't he come back and do that then? Compress it? Swallow his pride?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-03-27 17:46 [#00620278]
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look all im saying is its wrong that a member would get banned over what happened... its obvious that flea has a lot of pride, and a temp ban would lead to this, him leaving the board. his topic titles were clear, you knew beforehand what you were clicking, and there is definately a lot that can be said about each of those individual topics.
i just think in this case the moderator got a little to defensive about the little things. you'd ban a friend to please phobiazero? most of the time he only posts so that he can get us to part with cash.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-03-27 17:49 [#00620280]
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Advantage®
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:50 [#00620283]
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Phobia paid for the message you just typed.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-03-27 17:50 [#00620284]
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sad to see no more flea.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-27 17:51 [#00620286]
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damn right shame on y'all. flea should never have been told to keep all his links to one topic. are we expected to keep all MUSIC links in one thread? no. in fact, we even tolerate it when someone posts a link we've seen before. every topic flea made was about something DIFFERENT related to the war. eg: an interesting article debating the literal legality of the war, or an article about oil companies, etc. if to you it's the "same" article cos it criticizes bush then you just didn't understand it because it went over your head (whether that makes you mentally inferior to flea and people who engage in interesting political discussions, or if you just purposely tuned yourself out, is something only you would know). it was wrong to tell flea to limit himself to one topic when every other type of discussion can diversify itself (eg: a thread for every autechre track on draft 7.30 instead of keeping it all in one topic for just the album).
i wish flea didn't leave but i can't blame him. the way some of you treated and talked about him disgusts me.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-03-27 17:52 [#00620289]
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i really dont care... im tired and grouchy. bye.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-27 17:54 [#00620294]
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in the end, you care.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-03-27 17:57 [#00620299]
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"serious political discussion" LOL!
UK polits are incompetent... wow that hyperbole is far to sophistcated for my feeble drone brain to grasp
and many of the topics were about very specific incidents, not different aspects or sub-topics of the war
if i created a new thread for every individual model of headphones within a couple of days do you think i'd be asked to keep it in the same thread?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-27 17:58 [#00620301]
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I agree.
almost seems like the pro-war-people felt personally attacked by the war-topics. which would be sad.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-03-27 18:00 [#00620302]
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"i wish flea didn't leave but i can't blame him. the way some of you treated and talked about him disgusts me. "
ditto - but i don't think its entirely fair to lay all the blame on those people. don't get me wrong, i think flea is a great guy - but it was his decision to leave. i respect that.
ah .. can't remember how i wanted to put that. *lights candle*
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 18:01 [#00620304]
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Haha, I don't agree with many things you say, but that was funny. ;-)
And of course topics about every Draft 7.30 track is going to stay... say what you want about this board being about ''everything'', but realistically, it's centered around IDM... theoretically of course... sometimes it can be hard to tell. A lot of us don't give a shit about the war (I don't), but we all (except for Jedi Chris) are IDM fans. Not a good analogy.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 18:02 [#00620309]
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And I like Flea and respect him, even after this annoying topic. I have nothing against him.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-27 18:02 [#00620310]
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im sure both ceri and flea could have worked this whole thing out better-they could at least discuss it...i mean they're both reasonable, and this is all becoming really silly, childish...
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-27 18:04 [#00620314]
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i fuckin hate IDM its the worst fuckin music in the world its completely conservative. fuck all IDM and people who think it's good. yaa boo! you smell of poo! poo poo
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-03-27 18:06 [#00620318]
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should have been an anti-blame post.
just out of curiousity thought. (i haven't read all of the back-log). was it the number of posts, or the subject matter that led to his temp. ban?
whilst it may now seem like a matter of just "too many posts etc." - it certainly seemed like war talk in general was not really tolerated? it was urged to be swept under the carpet ... ?
anyway. i think i'll put on a raincoat.
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-27 18:07 [#00620322]
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sorry but the phrase "pro-war-people felt personally attacked" is making me laugh my arse off
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-27 18:08 [#00620325]
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who is this guy?
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-27 18:09 [#00620327]
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who is what guy?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-27 18:10 [#00620328]
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Nothing to do with subject matter, you can say anything you want about the war here. But Ceri and others were annoyed at a topic about a ''US is doing stupid things'' every time they... did a stupid thing.
Which was/is OFTEN.
Go and start a war topic now, I won't fucking lock it!
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-27 18:10 [#00620329]
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YOU for christ sake, who the fuck are you? tell me about you?..
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-03-27 18:11 [#00620330]
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.......................................... :O Fuckin' hell, had no idea you were getting attacked by members here!?... sure is a damn shame to see you go flea! :((((((((((
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-27 18:11 [#00620331]
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tell you what about me? just something random?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-27 18:14 [#00620338]
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no i just think you come like you know us all and i have never in my life seen you on this board (i have been here for ages)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-27 18:14 [#00620339]
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"if i created a new thread for every individual model of headphones within a couple of days do you think i'd be asked
to keep it in the same thread?"
yes because that is incredibly boring to everyone. plenty of people here are interested enough in the war to want to know about and discuss specific incidents, as you called them.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-27 18:15 [#00620341]
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he's got more posts than you, doesnt he? :)
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-27 18:16 [#00620343]
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everyone could get 7000 posts, i just dont have the time for it.
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