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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-27 13:05 [#00619778]
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he never did try it, did he?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-03-27 13:23 [#00619799]
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drugs aren't for everyone. and everyone is affected differently by them. the only universal thing about drug use is that if you are irresponsible with drugs you are likely to get hurt.
know your limits and only do what you feel you can handle. make your own decisions and bring a buddy you trust and you will probably do alright.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-03-27 13:25 [#00619805]
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if your life revolves around "getting fucked up" you may have a problem.
dont abuse... appreciate.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 13:42 [#00619813]
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haha kubrick sure is opinionated. he has his opinions on "things that are really interesting and stimulating", and he has his opinions on what "the most stimulating areas
of life" are. in short, the quote is a huge pile of subjective crap, sorry to say.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 13:44 [#00619818]
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well i guess it's not really crap, just an opinion. it makes him sound ignorant, though.
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Archrival
on 2003-03-27 13:44 [#00619819]
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Nice! well said :)
Theres a lot of knowledge spreading around this topic, I like it ;)
BIG UP to Od step, crocomire, A minal, Wheateredstoner, courn mouth etc etc
keep enjoying the good stuff :)
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Archrival
on 2003-03-27 13:45 [#00619821]
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never tried chemicals tho...only shroomz n that green, green sticky icky shit :)
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-03-27 14:26 [#00619912]
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I'm not sure, it is simply what he determined from observing and communicating with those people he knew, so if after communicating with, and observing the subject, one comes up with that conclusion I don't feel it's opiniated or ignorant in any way, but more a sober man's study on his doped friends.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 14:31 [#00619923]
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you don't understand. it's his opinion, yet he speaks as if it's fact.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-03-27 14:34 [#00619933]
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no that is just what you make out of it in my opinion ;)
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 14:42 [#00619950]
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heh
maybe
all i know is the quote bothers me. did he ever try LSD?
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-03-27 14:47 [#00619957]
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I assume he didn't after reading that quote, but then again, and I quote from a Steven Seagal flick:"Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups".
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-03-27 14:48 [#00619958]
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steven seagal makes even jean claude van damme look good.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 14:51 [#00619963]
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well, i'm certain he never tried it because on this subject he sounds like a fool. it's foolish to draw conclusions on a subject like drugs, an internal phenomenon that by this very nature can't be fully observed from the outside, such as he did.
foolish. that's why it bothers me.
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-27 14:55 [#00619966]
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when i step out the house, i assume the ground's gonna be there beneath my feet. hasn't done me any harm so far...
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mojogigolo
from Vic (Australia) on 2003-03-27 19:20 [#00620424]
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crocomire- if "its hard to draw conclusions on a subject like drugs", your cutting down of everyone elses opinions is all the more confusing.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-03-27 19:24 [#00620426]
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"If you think E is less dangerous than alcohol, you've never
been chased by an electric guitar swinging E freak losing contact with reality after snorting three pills in a row."
Maybe not but I almost got stabbed by a former friend who's had too much to drink a few weeks ago.
And last year I almost got killed because a friedn who I was with started shit with a gang.... andhe almost got beaten up by a drunk maori ...all that shit.
I seriously reckon you're more likely to get in a fight if there's alcohol involved then when E is involved
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mimi
on 2003-03-27 19:55 [#00620454]
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some of you seem to be under the impression that the only legitimate experience worth forming an opinion over a drug that a person can have is by ingesting it. i don't think that this is the case...
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optimus prime
on 2003-03-27 20:00 [#00620464]
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never tried LSD, don't want to. anyway i quit, so yeah.
about half my cd collection has been rendered useless.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-03-27 20:19 [#00620509]
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maybe so, but I think if you haven't done it and don't know people who do, then it's likely that you don't know enough o make a decent decision.
It's like you hate techno when you've never heard it before, or something.
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mimi
on 2003-03-27 20:22 [#00620513]
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how many people are on here that you honestly think don't know people who do drugs...?
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mimi
on 2003-03-27 20:22 [#00620514]
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not to be a bitch or anything..but in this day and age...
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mojogigolo
from Vic (Australia) on 2003-03-27 20:28 [#00620534]
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yes, you're more likely to get in a fight when drunk than on e, but like all drugs its a matter of dosage really, and while alcohol generally loosens you're inhibitions and makes you stupid, amphetamine drugs will make you psychotic in high enough doses. id rather take on someone who is drunk and belligerant than try to deal with someone in the depths of amphetamine psychosis. Also, regarding non-users opinions - a non user can still observe the negative effects of drugs on others as an absolute without doing the trade off against the buzz they get, so in a way theyre perfectly suited to assessing how beneficial/ harmful drugs are.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 21:39 [#00620615]
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no, i said it's hard to draw conclusions on something like drugs WITHOUT TRYING THEM FIRST as kubrick seems to have done, from looking at that quote.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 21:50 [#00620638]
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well and let me say this, it's not hard to draw some conclusions like maybe you see people on drugs acting a certain way and you say to yourself, i don't want to act like that, so you don't take the drug. but it is impossible to UNDERSTAND why they act that way if you've never ingested the drug. what kubrick seems to have done is to not understand the situation fully, and his conclusions may be fine for him, i don't care what he does, but he can't rightfully say the things he says about the people he's observed because he really doesn't know what he's talking about.
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mimi
on 2003-03-27 22:01 [#00620663]
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"perhaps when everything is beautiful nothing is beautiful."
actually, i think he points out an interesting aspect of drug use with that part of the quote...i can relate to it anyhow. drugs pretty much lost all meaning for me when i starting taking into account the fact that they completely changed the way i felt about things, and i really wasn't involved anymore. sure, they're fun...but kind of a time killer...for me, they're fake emotion anyways. and many will say that they unleash certain creativities...but i would give somebody who is naturally wildly creative more credit than someone who induces it with drugs anyways.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 22:06 [#00620679]
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perhaps when everything is beautiful, everything is beautiful!
lol
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 22:10 [#00620687]
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sorry mimi, i just had to >;
click here for an interesting site that goes beyond drugs into a possible future...
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mimi
on 2003-03-27 22:10 [#00620688]
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well there's always that..
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-03-27 22:24 [#00620709]
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hehe cool site, thanks... it has links to lots of good info btw, not all "what is man's future" type stuff
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-03-27 22:28 [#00620715]
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i would not be who i am today if it were not for LSD... kind of fucks with me sometime you know? lsd is bad shit, but good at the same time if you know what i mean
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-03-27 22:49 [#00620729]
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your welcome, AMinal.
"Yet when the vertebrate genome gets rewritten, and genetically-preprogrammed bliss becomes the norm of mental health..."
wild man, WILD
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optimus prime
on 2004-09-02 14:32 [#01321871]
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i haven't touched anything since this thread.
'ARDCORE.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-02 14:43 [#01321893]
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Drugs bring out the best in a person, so why quit ?
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tlink
from sofla (United States) on 2004-09-02 19:55 [#01322391]
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fuck, i just thought about continuing it
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-09-02 20:02 [#01322405]
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I was kinda harsh in this thread.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 20:03 [#01322408]
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Good luck to ya.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 20:04 [#01322409]
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edit, saw dates: Nice job, then, m8 :)
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