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Well, I can't obviously judge those people entirely because I'm too young for that. I haven't experienced how it is when you're not in school anymore. I think it's usually a lack of motivation in the period between the ages of 16 and 20. That's a critical period, because a lot of people don't have enough motivation for school and often they quit. I honestly that if you finish school you won't get homeless. However if you don't finish school you will either find/have the motivation/luck to/of find(ing) a decent job or you will not, and that's when people start to get in trouble. |
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OK, now I would like to say that most of the shit I have typed I don't really beleive. There are a hell of a lot of homeless people who have been put in that situation due to abusive parents, psychiatric patients released into community without proper support etc. etc. It is a sick world where 11 year old girls are beaten so badly they have to leave home, they in turn have no means of supporting themselves and have to turn to prostitution in an attempt to earn some cash to survive on. Their pimps often give them less money a week than a middle class child would receive in pocket money. It suits governments to portray homelessness as a collection of old scraggely bearded men with alchohol problems because that attracts less sympathy. I have tried to help where I can, but as marlowe says, the resources to be REALLY effective just aren't available to those individuals or groups that do try to do something about it. |
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I neverr have sparre money on me. I always only carrrry as much as i need, generrally i only own as much as i need. |
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You say you can't judge them, then you go on to judge them. Like I said, you don't know the reasons behind their homelessness - a lot of them ran away from abusive households, some encountered bad luck and lost their homes & families, some fell to addiction - there's a myriad reasons--yet people who are apathetic usually single out "laziness" so they don't feel guilty or motivated to give a shit. |
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by the way, I was talking about the situation in the netherlands. |
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yes, maybe you're right. I hope he was happy with the chocolate bar. He needed 1 euro, he already had 4 euros. 5 euros. that's the price of 0.8 gram weed. I bet he was going to buy that since he was already carrying a joint. Well, I hope he got himself the other 88 cents. |
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Yes you don't have abusive parents or mental patients in the netherlands. I guess your social support system will be pretty similar to that in the UK. We have an excellent system where in order to be able to get a flat you have to pay a security deposit up front along with about a months worth of rent. The social will pay either all your rent or part of it, but in order to be able to claim you have to have a fixed address. How do you get out of that one? |
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While we are at it does everyone think the Brazilian street children are only there because they are a gang of glue sniffers? It is often difficult to see whether a homeless persons substance addiction is the cause or a symptom of their lack of housing. Either way they need help. |
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there aren't many homeless in holland and most of them just sit around and drink beer with each other so that can't be too bad. |
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Spend a week living with them, and living their lives, then post your findings. |
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Well, that goes for Eindhoven, not for the whole netherlands. I was in Rotterdam the other day and there are a lot more homeless peope over there and a lot of them were very poor. |
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All I see them doing is drink beer, smoke joints, having a good laugh and asking young boys to suck their dicks for 10 euros. |
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If it's so good, you won't mind spending a month with them, as research for opinion-forming - I presume you aren't spending 24 hours per day with them? |
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ok now that violates all my good thoughts about homeless people. those homeless who are not pedophilic are cool, i especially like their collections of stuff! they have the most interesting things in those mess piles, believe it or not. as for them being drug addicts? a friend's family recently went on vacation to africa, and there the kids have glue bottles hanging from their noses, so they can sniff it and get hi, they dig around looking for anything of value and asking for money to buy more glue. those people i have a bad opinion of. i once gave a homeless man some money, and he went into a gas station, i half expected him to come out with a 40oz. or something but instead he bought a SoBe (fruit juice drink), proof that not all homeless people are raging crack fiends :) |
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no, I'm in school and I don't want to take the chance of being raped. Because homeless peope often do that around this area, not only the homeless. God no, I bet there are a lot of nice homeless people with good intentions, but some of them can not be trusted. |
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I totally agree ben. |
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the citys rough |
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I often buy them a coffee or some food,or give them some small cash. Some people do this and think they're the best Samaritan there is,some people do it to feel better about themselves. I suppose we all do really,to get rid of the guilt.But I also do this because empathsize these guys. These homeless people often use alcohol/drugs to keep warm or to forget about their misfortune,this is the result not the cause. |
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bI gIssue? |
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Big issue is a paper sold by the homeless,the guys who make the paper get 50% and the homeless guys that sell it get the other half. |
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well apperently. At least it's a decent discussion. |
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i'd consider buying it if it wasn't a worse read than cosmo |
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Unless you are joking you comment about the kids in Africa is totally out of order. If you did your research you would find out that the solvents in the glue they are sniffing is an appitite suppressent. They dont use the bottle because they like it, they use them because without them the hunger pains would be crippling. These kids living on the streets aren't allowed into stores to buy food even if they had the money, and the glue keeps the pain away longer than one small meal every couple of days would. I have to say that if some of the posts I have read in this thread are true feelings then I am sickened at just how bad the world has become. |
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