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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-22 07:25 [#00609176]
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Some of you think you're clever, some of you really ARE clever -- others of you know you're stupid. But now you have the chance to prove yourself. I'm going to set a little problem. Phobiazero has confirmed the 1st person to supply the correct answer will get 10 bonus points**
the problem a teacher shares £2 among 20 school kids. Some kids get 5p, some kids get 25p. How many children get 25p?
**Not really
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-22 07:27 [#00609178]
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shit i dont even remember how livre works i hate math, im going back into my house
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-03-22 07:27 [#00609179]
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errgghh...
I dunno the currency of pounds very well, so... :s
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-22 07:32 [#00609184]
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a. why would a teacher share £2 between those kids in the first place? Where's the educational value in that?
b. why not just give them al 10p? It seems really unfair to give one kid more than the other. How is that supposed to make the 5p-kids feel about themselves? :-p
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 07:33 [#00609186]
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YEAH! how about a little somethin', you know... for the effort!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-22 07:35 [#00609188]
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5 kids get 25p
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-22 07:35 [#00609189]
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trick question. you could give 8 kids 25p and the rest nothing.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-03-22 07:36 [#00609190]
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tis is rediculous
there's more than 1 answer...
but wtf, one possible answer could be that 4 get 25p and 20 get 5p
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-22 07:36 [#00609191]
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correct! Now explain the working out tolstoy
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-22 07:36 [#00609192]
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well, 6 kids 25p and five 5p to stick by the rules
all the same theres a lot of permutations cause you didnt say you couldnt give some kids nothing.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-03-22 07:37 [#00609194]
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hey my post was meant to be placed after surrounded's post
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-22 07:37 [#00609195]
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whats there to explain? :)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-03-22 07:39 [#00609196]
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Answer: undefined...the answer can range from 2 to 18
Explanation: some kids get 5p and some kids get 25p (kids = plural), so there must be at least 2 kids who get 25p. On the other hand there must be at least 2 kids who get 5p, hence the maximum of 18 kids that get 25p.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-03-22 07:39 [#00609197]
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shit....18 = 6
calculation error
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-22 07:40 [#00609198]
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I should have known some of you would think it was a trick question!
Let X be the amount of children who 25p (20-X)=the amount of kids who get 5p
25X+5(20-X)=200pence 25X+100-5X=200 20X=100 X=5
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-22 07:40 [#00609199]
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I 0p (25p) (5p) I
you did imply that the sets on 25p and 5p were mutually exclusive but you didnt exlcude the set outside of 25p and 5p
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-22 07:40 [#00609200]
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ok, 5 get 25 15 get 5 thats 2 pounds and everyone gets it...
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-03-22 07:44 [#00609203]
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I stink at maths :(
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-22 07:44 [#00609204]
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argh! the only sums given were 25p and 5p...all the kids got something. tada! happy now?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-22 07:46 [#00609205]
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oh im happy but you didnt word the question well enough :) id contest that in a math test and earn the whole class an extra mark! 'some' doesnt mean the whole set has been accounted for
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-22 07:48 [#00609206]
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but dont take my word for it, im a computer science dropout :)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-22 08:12 [#00609239]
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Yeah, I was just putting as it was put in the textbook ;P So blame the person who wrote that book :) I'm on the question after that right now. A father is 4 times as old as his son. In 4 years, he'll be 3 times as old. How old are they now?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-22 08:14 [#00609246]
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am i allowed to answer?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-22 08:15 [#00609250]
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8 and 32
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-22 08:15 [#00609253]
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Well, I haven't worked it out yet (my text book is at home), but of course you can answer - I know the kid's age, because I accidentally caught it whilst checking the answer of the question before :|
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-22 08:16 [#00609256]
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cmon i did that in my head :)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-22 08:16 [#00609257]
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Yes, that's right -- how did you work it out - I had y as the kids age and some crap equation:
4y+4=3y, but since that gave a minus age I quickly abandoned it and went into town to buy some books! :D
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-22 08:17 [#00609259]
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Oh, btw, for the textbook, you have to turn the questions into algebraic formulas and work them out - rather than going thru the ages until you get the right one! :D (I'm not suggesting this is what you did, johnny :)...)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-22 08:18 [#00609260]
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just checked my imprinted times table
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-22 08:24 [#00609276]
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oh well
x = 4y
x + 4 = 3(y + 4)
4y + 4 = 3y + 12
y = 8
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