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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-18 17:38 [#00602859]
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here is some more reading for Ceri..
Further Evidence on Relation between Depleted Uranium and Incidence of Malignancies among Children in Basra, Southern Iraq
Dr. Alim Yacoup ; Dr. Imad Al-Sa’ doun ; Dr. Genan G. hassan,
College of Medicine, Basrah University
Information on the incidence of malignancies among children below 15 years of age in Basrah, southern Iraq was updated to include 1999 in addition to the already reported for the period 1990-1998. There has been a 100 % rise in the incidence of various forms of leukemia among children in 1999 compared to 1990 while the reported percentage increase 1997 compared to 1990 for the same forms was 60 %. The corresponding rise for all malignancies among such children in 1999 compared to 1990 was 242 % while the percentage increase in 1997 compared to 1990 was 120 %. The overall incidence rate of all malignancies was 10.1 per 100, 000 of children below 15 years of age compared to 3.98 in 1990 and 7.22 in 1997. During the period from 1993 to 1998 the average annual incidence rate of malignancies among children ranged from 3.1 per 100,000 in Shatt Al-Arab district to 11.8 per 100, 000 in Al-Hartha. In 1999 the reported rates ranged from 5.3 in Abu-Al-khassib to 13.2 in Al-Zubier district with noticeable increase in such rates in all districts in Basra including Basra center, Qurna, Mudaina and shatt-Al-Arab. The findings reported in 1999 provided further epidemiological evidence that the increased incidence of malignancies among children in Basrah is related to exposure to depleted uranium used by the western allies during their aggression on Iraq in 1991.
Epidemiological Trend of Cancer in South of Iraq, for the Period 1976-1999
Dr. Ahmad Hardan ; Dr. Abdul-Hafidh Al-KhAzraji, Ministry of Health.
The Epidemiology of cancer has been changed in incidence, prevalence, geographical distribution, and population at risk and trend.
This is an analytic epidemiological study for the incidence of cancer, in the south of Iraq for the period 1976-199
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-18 17:41 [#00602865]
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This is an analytic epidemiological study for the incidence of cancer, in the south of Iraq for the period 1976-1999. Another part of the study is retrospective, A systematic random sample of cases were selected with a similar number of control groups. History of exposure to the war environmental was assessed among cases and controls: medical records, medical history, physical examination and medical investigations were studied.
The incidence of cancer in five-year intervals for 24 years was studied. The most common types of cancer, by site and histopathological findings, the age group with higher risk were studied for each interval. The relative risk was assessed for the post war period compared with the pre-war period . statistical tests of significance were applied.
It is obvious that the epidemic curve of cancer showed a rise in their incidence in the post war period. The difference from that in the pre-war period statistically significant. There is a strong statistical association between the incidence and the exposure to war environment.
Southern governorates; namely Basra, Misan and Dhiqar show the highest relative risk compared with other parts of Iraq. There is a change in the trend of cancer in Iraq in the post war period. Leukemia becomes higher in the rank among common cancers among types of cancer among all age groups and of the most common cancers among the age group of less than 15 years. Teratomas become a more common type of malignancy than in the pre-war period and to a less degree; nephroblastomas, Rhabdomyosarcoma and medullo blastoma. There is a shift in the age group of higher incidence of cancer to the age group of (45-55) years.
Leukemia in Iraq
Dr. Muna Elhassani, Director of the Iraqi Cancer Registry.
Among (124282) registered cancers in Iraq during the last 22 years for the period (1976-1997), a total of (7094) cases of leukemia has been registered, (4293) Males & (2831) Females.
There was an alarming increase in the relative frequency of leukemia in both sexes e
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-18 17:43 [#00602870]
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read more here
href="http://www.arab2.com/n/iraq/iraq-news-english.htm"the depleted uranium studies
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-18 17:47 [#00602883]
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My step brother died of leukemia which he developed as a result of nuclear waste so I'm only too aware of what an unpleasent illness it is...
I still don't see how this is proof that depleted uranium did it. There are only a limited number of radiation particles and also a range of associated diseases. It is entirely possible that something other than depleted uranium caused the sickness (as it happens it was waste from Sellafield that killed my step brother- not uranium, yet the way it manifested itself could of been mistaken for depleted uranium posoning) perhaps it's Saddam's own chemical weapons backfiring?
In other interesting developments there was an (anti war!) member of the public on the radio tonight who had relatives in raq who said, "There isn't a person in iraq who wouldn't like saddam out".
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-18 17:54 [#00602894]
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The thing is, depleted uranium mainly gives off alpha particles which is only really harmful if you ingest it. As I've already said, uranium (very much like lead in the way it behaves) tends to stay in clumps- it doesn't shatter into a cloud of dust that is spread on the wind.
The reason it is used in ammunition is itts extreme density- it has nothing to do with the fact it is radioactive...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 07:29 [#00603653]
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I am sad to hear about your brother:( but as far as burning into clumps theory is concerned..I thoroughly disagree..
here is some more reading specifically about how Depleted Uranium's behaviour when exposed to extreme heat..which is exactly what is generated when it is used as a casing for shells or bullets..
and this link is to no raving left wing conspiracy theorists but based on extensive studies made for a presentation to the Hague by the Gulf War Veterans.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-19 07:43 [#00603672]
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I never knew him- he died before I was born... Even my elder brother doesn't remember him. I know from what my mum has said how nasty a way to die it is though :/
I've got to admit, I'd not considered that it would get that hot from friction (I should of realised- bullet wounds include burns...).
Perhaps what I've heard about its relative safety only applies to it before it is fired... thanks for the info Flea.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 07:54 [#00603697]
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no probs mate :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-19 08:10 [#00603740]
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You can't ever say I'm stubborn in my views!
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 08:15 [#00603747]
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that's what I like about you:)
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uzim
on 2004-02-10 14:32 [#01067327]
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Depleted Uranium-Related Birth Defects in Iraq
not for the faint of heart... i mean....
some of it it much worse than rotten.com o_O (#3.... argh!!! i'm going to have nightmares)
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-10 14:34 [#01067330]
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yeah, i've seen this study before. nasty stuff.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-10 18:45 [#01067606]
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#3 reminds me a bit of Roy Orbison.
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