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I want to do this, but can't think of a way to organize it. I see large signs with "Protesting" in the international circle w/strikthrough in red. How should I motivate my local community members to rally against stupidity and protest protesting? |
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Dont know... offer free Lobotomy procedures for all joining? no wait...they will have to be lobotomized FIRST to buy into your agenda... |
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what's my agenda besides anti-ignorance? satire works best on defensive people like yourself anyway =) |
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air liquide makes super cool music |
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so whose got some hints? I figure a group of like 5 people could nicely attach themselves to the next nazi peace protest and make headlines...... oh the possibilities. |
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do a net search, get some phone numbers, and ask. votenowar.com sent me an organizer's packet. But nothing that would help me organize a large protest. try putting up some flyers. Go to school and get to know who the invloved people are, and start making connections |
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in democracies citizens have the right to protest actions of their government they disagree on... freedom of speech, freedom of protest without being called idiot hippies anyone? Or does freedom only come in the form of America's intensely convincing slogans such as "enduring freedom" and the innovative "freedom fries" ? insulting protesters with words such as "idiot" and "stupidity" hardly servers as part of a rational argument on your part BlatantEcho |
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oh wait a sec? maybe i didnt catch your witty topic title, heh. You sicken me. |
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make some signs that say "I hate freedom of speech" and go walking around with your mouth duct taped shut, that should do the trick. |
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its semantically impossible, its a joke. |
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anti anti ignorance...what makes you think that these protesters are that stupid...after all its a propoganda war to manufacture consent Bush is the successor to Adolf Hilter, he is advocating death to millions of Iraqi. He wants to drop 3000 bombs on the first day, and the MOTHER of all bombs...for what? The US is using as per usual the weapons inspectors like prawns in a much bigger chess game. What is democracy?...what is facism? Living in AMerica right now is like the start of Nazi Germany..gather round a group of brown shirts around you to quash the dissenting voices and you are one step closer... |
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*sigh* "what makes you think that these protesters are that stupid" you follow that up with "Bush is the successor to Adolf Hilter" and since when do I not have the freedom of speech to protest morons in tie-dye who make a mockery of our states education system by protesting a situation they don't understand? it's funny that protests for peace are rather hostile and violent toward those who oppose them. |
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so I guess no one has any real ideas about a good way to get my war against ignorant masses off the ground? maybe I'll just stand on a street corner with a friend with a sign and see how it goes. |
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so because they don't agree with it that automatically means they don't understand it? what makes you the high and mighty king of situation understanding? Have you talked to each and every protester about why they don't like bush's actions and come to the conclusion that they don't understand them? Oh no waaaait, you're making judgements about people and opinions before YOU understand them. Shit, it's pot kettle black time. |
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actually the ignorant masses in your country support the war...go and stand in the street corner but dont be surprised if that nice lady that lives around the corner with those hot daughters sends one of them along with some lemonade for your troubles.. |
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way to turn a thread into something it isn't. I want ideas how to counter-protest, in a satirical manner, people I consider moronic lowlifes. You don't like George W. based on his politics and action, I don't like peace protests based on their politics and actions. you and I dislike people for the same basic reasoning, I just hate your people and you mine, I don't really give a fuck. I'm trying to take my ideas public, and I thought there would be a few more creative ideas here than trying to shun MY freedom of speech. |
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*I thought there would be a few more creative ideas here than trying to shun MY freedom of speech. No storm trooper breakin down your dooors maaan...just words dude just words... you keep fishin but no one's biting..what does that tell ya??..maybe yer barking up a wrong tree in the wrong park... |
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I'm just pointing out your hypocritical bullshit, and boy is it hypocritical... and bullshitty. Go ahead and protest the protests... but if you can't think of a way to do it on your own, you're probably not smart enough to get your point heard anyway. |
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I think you are correct, bad place to look for these counter-mainstream ideas. ;) <---- final poke before I go away =) |
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there is no deep point, just satire vs. the masses |
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heh, so basically you're just trying to go against whatever is "popular?" ... good way to do it man. Fuck, I think that next week "Acting dumb for the sake of acting dumb" is going to be popular... you might want to get a head start on going against it now. |
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hey take a listen to Bush's speeches and see how he forms sentences and tries to justify his actions...e.g. Bush's speech where he says that the ...gee I wonder where that went he contradicts everything he says...the man is ignorance personified and anyone who buys his ignorance for a minute is being led by an ignorant by a nose ring |
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"What is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right." |
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this is true. but guess what: Being anti-everything popular has become popular, and it looks like you got sucked into it's trap pretty bad. |
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who is out protesting peace protesters? |
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anyway, I think you missed my point. I want to raise awareness, like you said, that peace protesting like everyone finds so socially responsible, isn't the only logical path. I don't want war, who does? But sometimes following blindly the mass of people who say one thing is good, is bad. I'm neither for war, nor against it, I just don't like seeing so many people suckered in to waiving a peace flag when they understand very little about the geopolitical and socioeconomic environment in the middle east, or even about their own country. I want to raise the issue, in a satirical manner, that there are at least two sides to this issue. |
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There have actually been people out protesting peace protesters, i saw a few shots of them, but anyway, i was pointing toward your general outlook tonight, and this statement specifically: >there is no deep point, just satire vs. the masses yeah, what's popular is not always right, but as an aside, what's popular is also not always WRONG. |
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*translation here fishy fishy HERE FISHY FISHY I HAVE GOT SOMETHING FOR YOOOOOUUUU |
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i mean, if I can raise a dialouge like this in my local community, then I've done what I wanted. Protesting Protesting is flamebait enough to get a reaction out of people and really get them talking about this situation. that's all I want to do. |
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definetly agree, sometimes things, *music comes to mind* are underground for a reason. sometimes things aren't poplular cuz they suck ass, I completely agree with you. I'm in this for the dialouge and spreading of ideas and communication in such grave times. |
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talks are done its time for action...in more ways than one |
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people should ALWAYS be talking amongst themselves so they constantly understand the situation and ramifications of the position their country is in. |
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Okay, well you're always going to have some dumbass protesters in every situation, so you've just gotta deal with that. Protesting protesting is not the way to go about it, however... if you protest protesting, all that you come off as saying is "fuck you, i want this war." ... and that goes nowhere except to get people angry at you. If you made a sign that pointed out some facts about the shitty things Saddam has done, that might get the point across, but somehow i still think you're ignoring the bigger picture, which is that we don't really have a good reason to be going to war right now except to distract the public from the fact that we haven't caught the people who actually terrorized us. Or how bout North Korea? Someone pointed out this quote I loved: US: Hey Iraq, we know you have bombs, let us see them Iraq: We don't have bombs US: Fuck you, we know you do, show us North Korea: We have bombs, bring it! US: We're busy, come back later, now Iraq, show us those bombs! |
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that would be too contrustive, I'm trying to stir the pot to get dialouges like the one we've had. all this came out from a simple two word statement. =) I think you see the big picture a but more clearly than the protesters I target with slurs, there is more to this than war and peace. 'night |
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I just think you're targetting the wrong people with slurs... i mean, take a look at for example... that seems like a far more dangerous herd mentality to me than any peace protesters could possibly be... you're barking up the wrong tree in more ways than just this message board. |
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oh yeah, related to this story, oops |
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You have friends??? |
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sadly most of the protesting has been futile. the global protests didnt happen until after troops had been deployed. while these protests Were an effective means of communicating the anti war sentiment, they were ultimately too late. so the idea of protesting in london on sunday seems twice as futile.. im just being realistic here.. and secondly we should be Getting Behind our men+women. lets not treat those who come home as we did the vietnam veterans. |
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We should support people murdering Iraqis? Why? |
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protesting was not futile.. the US,UK, AUS, Spanish coalition knows very well where they stand this time around....and so do the troops..get behind them all you want but I dont think anybody would be able to deny the sneaking suspision that they are out to commit murders in an illegal, immoral war... |
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a soldier doesnt choose their wars. theyre doing their jobs. the individual does not deserve to be condemned. |
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heh..we reading each others minds again yo:) |
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so they stand being thrown out of office. that doesnt change the current situation. i dont expect them to pull out now. |
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Did you hear Bush's speech? If the Iraqi soldiers wont be able to get away with saying that they were just doing their jobs..why should the US, UK, AUS troops?? |
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hmm... but really... in vietnam, the veterans didn't deserve to be treated badly... many of them were drafted and forced to fight a war they didn't want to... wheras there is no draft now, the only people who are over there chose to get involved in the military, knowing there was a potential they would be at war. I'm not saying treat them like shit, but I'll hold my judgements of who I'll get behind until I see if they were worth getting behind or not. |
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Maybe not, but neither do they deserve support. And as far as I am aware Vietnam Vets took an active part in protest; people like Ron Kovic aka Tom Cruise. |
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Being thrown out of office is not the issue..every war has a tangential component..the propaganda war...for the hearts and minds....that war's been lost by the US and co..without a single bullet being fired... |
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No person should ever be able to call anything that involves taking human life "just doing their job" ... that mentality needs to go right out the window. Sadly, it probably never will. |
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No, I am just copying you hehe :) |
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maybe you are copying my mind..because your posts sure keep beating mine:) |
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