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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-03-16 19:06 [#00598551]
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Who gets them and to what extremes? I just got discharged from the ER two steps ahead of getting slapped into a straight jacket - It was a close call with oblivion but I managed to stay afloat. They're usually brought on by stomach molestations, whether naturally occuring through fever or from alcohol it makes no difference, the cramps and nausia-induced panic and hallucinations are unbereable. Has anyone ever lost compete control of their thoughts and felt like every fiber of their being was being conquered by some higher malicious force? I'm still reeling from this morning and I'm praying that when I wake up tomorrow it will all be gone.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-03-16 19:11 [#00598553]
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ah jeez.
I get twitches when i smoke weed and put in a stressfull anxiety-stricken places.
I cant focus on anything, high or not, especially at work when we have these mass meetings and I can just tell that everyone is staring at me when I'm not looking at them.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2003-03-16 19:12 [#00598554]
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One of my best friends gets them quite frequently. She can't breathe, do anything besides sit perfectly still to try to make it stop. Pretty frightening for me as well as her.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-16 19:14 [#00598555]
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I dunno if you caught my ''heart attack'' topic a couple weeks back, but I spent 45 minutes in total agony thinking I was going to drop dead... is that an anxiety attack? I got it checked out and apparently I had fluid around my heart, a shot in the ass and some pills later and I was A OK. It could have been brought on by anxiety, I've been a psycho lately.
Insanity lurks in my future, I fear.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-16 19:21 [#00598557]
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i remember that.
have you had anything like that since?
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-03-16 19:22 [#00598559]
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I have dealt with panic attacks for many years. The first one I got was quite extreme; took me a good 3 weeks to recover. Expect to feel "off" for at least a few days, with blurred vision. You should get a prescription for valium (20mg dose will nip it) or xanax (1mg dose will nip it) - those can help tremendously when an attack is coming on.
In the past 2 years, I have learned to keep them at bay through concentrated diaphragm breathing exercises. You can usually stop them before the go full on this way... takes practice though - when you are having an attack, your diaphragm is practically locked up.
Good luck Cabbog, and just remember, you merely have a tick in your fight or flight response. Contrary to what your body/brain is telling you, you are NOT going to die from it. You will not have a heart attack.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-16 19:33 [#00598563]
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yeah I have panic attacks too. my worst one was a few years ago. they're more psychological though.
I had a weekend where I didn't know what up or down was, left or right. I was completely lost. those are heavy attacks - it takes me mostly three months to slowly return to some sense of normality.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-03-16 19:34 [#00598565]
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No, I've been fine, I guess the problem was really just a freak infection of the lining of my heart, could have happened to any unlucky sap... all better now. Don't know what caused it or set it off, but everyone was telling me it was probably an anxiety attack before I got it checked out... that's what I thought it was. But my chest hurt for a week after.
Kabboj, you poor dear... I'm here for you. We're all here for you. Always.
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-03-16 19:49 [#00598580]
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i dont get these very, often,, the most recent ones were about 1 year ago
and last wednsday i had one because i got a bunch of shit taken away from me that wasnt mine, and i got into a fist fight with my mom's boy friend, and my mom tried to send me to jail.
first i got angry and punched stuff and trashed my basement until my fists were a bloody mess and basically everything was broken.
then the panic started. i was crying unconrollobly and shaking to the point where i had to lie down on the floor because i couldnt keep myself up
and i lay down there shaking for i dont even know how long. then i fell asleep, and when i woke up i had to leave the house because, like i said before, i got kicked out of the house (just got home last night at 2am)
it doesnt sound that bad, but it was
the time before that it was so bad that i tried to kill myself and made a bloody mess of ym room and the kitchen
i almost got my ass thrown in a mental hospital that time
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-16 19:52 [#00598583]
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goodness, aron.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-16 19:54 [#00598584]
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I remember I used to wake up in the middle of the night absolutely freaked out of my mind. happened at least once a month for quite a long time.
once I woke up and for a few seconds had the idea that my sight had gone 2-dimensional - everything just was flat.
that scared the living fuck out of me. I guess that happened because I was just really, really tired.
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-03-16 20:34 [#00598627]
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"the time before that it was so bad that i tried to kill myself and made a bloody mess of ym room and the kitchen i almost got my ass thrown in a mental hospital that time" I feel you. No one understands what it's like.. Invisible flames of torment, gnashing of teeth! --Argh! Father in heaven hear my cry!
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-03-16 20:35 [#00598629]
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' Kabboj, you poor dear... I'm here for you. We're all here
for you. Always. ' Awww... That means so much to me.
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Ganymede
from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2003-03-16 20:53 [#00598650]
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Dude, seriously, I'm sorry to hear that you've been going thru these. Another friend of mine gets these semi-regularly. Xanax seems to help him...
May you have peace and strength. :)
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-03-16 20:59 [#00598664]
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I have pretty serious panic attacks sometimes when I'm alone,.. usually takes me about a day to get over them.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-03-16 21:22 [#00598685]
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i've been diagnosed with social anxiety disorder (i think)
i take paxil to combat it. it's worked pretty well so far.
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-03-16 22:10 [#00598726]
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I feel for you guys - I used to have some really bad problem with this stuff a few years ago - all started when a good friend of mine died and I found her body - that fucked me up good for a long time. ANyway it all came to a head one summer that I had to spend in the USA pretty much alone and a long way away from family and friends - i became way too introspective and looking back now I think I was on the verge of paranoid schizophrenia - I was terrified of being poisoned, drugged etc - every time I got a burger or can or coke etc I would have to check every inch of it for drugs, poison etc. I HONESTLY though people were all out to get me.
I was also really worried about acid flashbacks, and I had a lot of symtoms similar to the stuff being described above.
The only way to end it all is to GET HELP.
Medicine of the sedative variety helps a bit but wont solve the problem. I saw doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists, pyshotherapists yadda yadda...
The guy who helped the most was a cognitive therapist - he was great. He taught me to condition and desensitise myself to the stuff I was worrying about by basically asking myself 'SO FUCKING WHAT IF THAT HAPPENS".
SO WHAT IF SOMEBODY POISIONS ME, SO WHAT IF I HAVE AN ACID FLASHBACK, SO WHAT IF MY HEART STOPS BEATING AND I DROP DEAD. I CANT BE FUCKED TO CARE AND WORRY ABOUT THIS SHIT ANY MORE.
Sounds crass but if you ask yourself so what enough times you can make yourself stop worrying.. Remember nothing that CAN EVER happen to you is as bad as what ACTUALLY happens to you when you worry about what MIGHT happen to you. If that makes sense...
Whenever I felt a twinge coming on, I was told to immediatly change my surroundings and stimulus - change cd, change tv channel ,change room or enviroment you are sitting in, call someone - just do something rather than let the fear build. Dont smoke cigarettes as this increases you heart rate which generally makes you feel more panicky.
DOnt know if me writing this will help anybody, but really you should g
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-03-16 22:11 [#00598727]
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go and see some mind doctors, they can do some amazing stuff..
Take care
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2003-03-16 22:13 [#00598730]
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drugs are the answer.
and suicide. lots of suicide.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-16 22:37 [#00598745]
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Some good advice given up abaove, cabbog...(well, apart from the Suicide option...;)..)...
AD is understood a lot better nowadays and there are several treaments, ranging from breathing exercises & the like to Sedatives/Tranquillisers (only short term effective tho & can be very addictive...) to SSRIs (like Paxil etc..)...
Only you can decide what's best for you so make sure you research your options & talk to your doctor...
Best of luck, my friend...keep us all posted how things go...
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-03-17 00:19 [#00598769]
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11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-03-17 10:54 [#00599932]
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I'm good now, thanks. Just a few twinges that are easily shrugged off.. I should be back to normal by tomorrow. Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-17 10:59 [#00599943]
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Professional Therapy.
Pills can only mask any problems.
Feel better man..
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-03-17 12:10 [#00600126]
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I have them quite often and I don't know how to handle them very well. Everything that means potential hurt scares the hell out of me. Day in, day out having that cold sweat. I've seen a lot of people, tried a lot of pills but nothing seems to help. Fear is very underestimated.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-03-17 19:48 [#00601089]
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:[ sorry to hear such events Cabbog. I cannot relate in anyway, but I truly hope the best for you.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-03-17 19:49 [#00601092]
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ow, I thought you meant the imminent iraq attack.
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-03-17 21:26 [#00601149]
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Thanks. I'm alright now.. No more lashing out or foaming at the mouth. I think they must have given me a rabies shot at the ER.
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-03-17 23:21 [#00601188]
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i get attacks as well. sometimes they are like yours, but they range from pure rage to total despair and mindless panic. it is more of a psychosis-type of thing than a normal panic attack.
they gave me diazepam. that shit is ADDICTIVE. nowadays i use no medication at all.
oh god múm is so good.
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-03-18 02:49 [#00601418]
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tokyo Jo knows..........
I've had them also and I use the Tokyo Jo method, a jedi trick......
only Jedis get panic attacks, or as i like to call them, demon attacks.....
Fear is the most powerful emotion we have to deal with, imo........and when we conquer it, nothing else can get in our way...........
A t o p
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-18 03:09 [#00601441]
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I've had a few; hyperventilated and shit. I used to get free-floating anxiety and nausea for a while but its passed now.
My g/f had problems with them but they passed in time.
Anyway, it seems its quite common so don't feel alone with it. I'm sure you'll be fine in time.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-18 03:15 [#00601445]
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"The guy who helped the most was a cognitive therapist - he
was great. He taught me to condition and desensitise myself
to the stuff I was worrying about by basically asking myself
'SO FUCKING WHAT IF THAT HAPPENS".
SO WHAT IF SOMEBODY POISIONS ME, SO WHAT IF I HAVE AN ACID FLASHBACK, SO WHAT IF MY HEART STOPS BEATING AND I DROP DEAD. I CANT BE FUCKED TO CARE AND WORRY ABOUT THIS SHIT ANY
MORE. "
Good advice- I learnt to condition myself that way about 18 months ago and have suffered virtually no insomnia since. I used to have real trouble sleeping- sometimes I'd get paranoid that I'd not set my alarm clock and that I'd oversleep. I'd literally check it about 20 times before going to sleep. I learnt to not care (I check it once, that's it) and rationalise.
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-18 03:46 [#00601484]
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i used to get them real bad and cudnt get out of the house for 2 weeks
my psycologist sorted it
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-18 03:51 [#00601494]
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I don't know what happened to me. I never used to be the most confident guy in the world but I could quite happily socialise and stuff. Over the past few years I have suffered from panic attacks and every time I get into any stressful situation ( social or work ) my heart starts going like the clappers and i sweat like John leslie on a hot day. I'm doped up to the eyeballs on beta blockers and anti-depressants and to tell you the truth, it makes very little difference. I still get the panic attacks because everything i do is such an effort. I have lost nearly all of my friends because of my inability to socialise and I've split up with my girlfriend over it. I can't help but think that my years of experimentation has come back to haunt me a thousandfold.
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AE_King
from Australia on 2003-03-18 04:38 [#00601560]
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Bill your condition sounds very similar to mine, and it's not because of your experimentation (infact it's a very common thing according to my psychologist). Basically, god ****ed us over :P hopefully we can laugh about it in a few years
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-03-18 11:06 [#00602271]
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Mine is probably closer to psychosis as well. All my thoughts turn off at the wrong exits and go around in circles - nauseating. I agree, múm is good for panic recovery as are fellow Icelanders Sigure Ros. The words aren't real so there's nothing to try and decipher and dissect.
Right now everything's slowly settling back into it's proper place and I should be well again within a few days. I encourage anyone with additional stories or advice to post.. I never realized I'd find so much unconditional love and compassion here at the Xltronic message board.
:')
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nocturne
from Montreal (Canada) on 2003-03-18 22:44 [#00603139]
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Jesus Dolleater! The first time I had a (genuine) panic attack, I was in the theater seeing "Contact". I was tripping about numbers!! about what you just wrote.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-03-18 22:53 [#00603143]
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See Pi. If your an analytical/obsessive/paranoid neurotic like me you'll love it untill 5 seconds after it ends when you start a speculating rant about it being nerd fodder and that no one could love a movie as much as you did. I still havent conclusiveley determined how I feel about it. Though it did rouse many anxieties I had thought were long forgotten. Its fun to want to kill yourself.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-03-18 23:00 [#00603147]
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...and that no one could love a movie as much as you did.^without it having been marketed to an easily catagorized audience, thus leaving you to feel as though it was less profound and genius while also degrading your self esteem more for thinking it was while you were watching it. sorry, never ranted here before.
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nocturne
from Montreal (Canada) on 2003-03-18 23:11 [#00603152]
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I've seen it. mostly, anyway. It didn't leave that great of an impression. I mean I recognise that it's good, but...I guess I should watch it again. I bought my friend a copy, I'll borrow his.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-03-18 23:15 [#00603157]
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Allright. I'll rent Contact again if you do.
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nocturne
from Montreal (Canada) on 2003-03-18 23:18 [#00603160]
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Dude, I own it! That, um "travelling" bit at the end, the climax of the film, is an intense psychadellic metaphor.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-03-18 23:20 [#00603162]
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I wasnt as mature when I saw it, Ill have to see it again. I thought the traveling bit was a trip down a worm hole, what did you think it meant?
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nocturne
from Montreal (Canada) on 2003-03-18 23:28 [#00603171]
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Watch it. She's tripping out! Notice, while she's still travelling there, how we hear things that she hasn't (chronolgically)said yet, how her face melds into her face as a child. On the non-linear time tip.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-03-18 23:42 [#00603179]
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The transpostation device she was in could have been bending the space-time fabric so that both destination are closer together. I dont know the exact physics of it but it might explain why her face was melding into her former(or past) self. Im probably babbling, im stupid.
*gets in converted pirate ship and flies to the virgo cluster*
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-03-18 23:54 [#00603183]
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well it would have to be bending it as a hole in a flat plane would go no where. Oh I wont be sleeping tonight.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-03-19 01:18 [#00603219]
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Yeah a few weeks back I went a little off and I basically freaked and got really shit scared (one really weird visual hallucination)
Only really for a few hours.
Made a few funny journal entries though
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-03-19 01:19 [#00603221]
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could I see them? :)
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-03-19 01:21 [#00603224]
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I got that way when I spent the night in a jail cell on friday. I was freaking out pretty bad.
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-03-19 02:06 [#00603244]
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How do you get rid of them? Sometime's, I'm so sick and tired of being afraid all the time, especially that no doctor or psy find anything that helped me.
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