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an online petition for those who still care. |
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We all care, thats why we want Saddam Hussein out - to stop the murdering and pillaging. Don't give me this load of crap about caring. Pah what rubbish. |
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i signed the hell out of it |
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yeah yeah yeah we know your standpoint.. stop the murdering by murdering. |
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As opposed to doing nothing and having no forseeable end to it. |
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I'm on the fence - of course I don't like the idea of people killing each other - but I also don't like the idea of Sadaam Hussein continuing his reign. -Diplomacy seems to have come to a standstill. -The troops are in place and with the summer approaching time is running out. but... -Are the weather conditions and cost justifiable reasons for going to war? -What are the ramifications of taking such action without a broad consensus? |
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i am tired of discussing this at the MB, but still surprises me people like promo, well I guess this is the good thing of this MB, people from different places with different poits of view |
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I said "for those who still care" because mostly when petitions are mentioned people say "oh whats the use anyway". the use is, its nice to voice your opinion. I don't want to discuss it anymore either - just sign the petition if you want to or just don't. either way is fine, ofcourse. |
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there will be thousands of dead innocent people filling the streets of Bahgdad soon......children split in half by thousands of pounds of explosives......women ripped away from their children because they have just seen that child blown up, with the pieces scattered out all over the street........ The US has given Saddam all of his supplies to be the terror that the media tells us he is, Saddam was trained to be a dictator at the School of Americas in the state of Georgia here in the US........ this is what you support by supporting the bush administration..... A t o p |
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Same old tired argument about Saddam being trained in the US... |
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you're tired........ tired of trying to downplay what is true and live in your comfort zone, what if it was your family being ripped to shreds by US bombs, your comfort is soon to be demolished, will you be able to survive the next holocaust? A t o p |
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I'm not trying to downplay anything. War will not be pretty, but unless Saddam goes into exile it's the only way things will ultimately improve for the Iraqis. |
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absolutely false |
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this is highly questionable. you just have to look at Afghanistan, which is in just as much turmoil as before. |
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military force is unnecessary in ousting Saddam. what is needed is a Cartman. (not funny unless you've seen the South Park movie) ;) |
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How will the Iraqis know if there is an improvement if they are all dead or mourning the loss of their children? A t o p |
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Afganistan "new" puppet, I mean leader speaks better english than I do, good ole School of America's english course I bet........ A t o p |
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Yes, there will be dead Iraqis and some Americans too. War is always the last option because it is so horrible - but it's been 12 years of UN resolutions - and still Sadaam has chemical and biological weapons. Providing a broad critique of US foreign policy doesn't address the question: What do we do with Sadaam? Atop, what's your answer? |
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Euhm, of the several resolutions that involved the Israelians, none was ever brougth into practice by them. Why isn't Bush fighting the Israelians? He is actually donating 5 billion dollars to them on a yearly basis. Explain this double moral please? Or can we agree that money (oil for Iraq and diamonds for judes/Israelians) has a lot to do with this? |
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stop listening to the media, it's biased towards the bush administration, so what you are spouting out is just rhetoric from them, I know you don't realize this but it's true........my answer is for all of us to stop what we are doing and kill the economy, stop using Gasoline, have all banks closed, and start living not working for money for all of our lives, we don't need it, it's a system that has been implanted here to trap us in our mundane mediocre complascent lives........this will happpen only when everything is so bad that there is no more to work for and everything is on the verge of armageddon..... A t o p |
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Atop, you really do have some strange views... why don't you go to iraq and become a human shield for Saddam as you seem to agree with him being in power? Surely the future of Iraq can only be better without Saddam. |
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and instead of talking shit about armageddon how about giving us all your peaceful solution to dissarming Iraq and freeing the Iraq people from his regime... oh sorry you don't know a peaceful solution do you? |
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I signed the petition to protect the unicorns in Afganistanitonia. Think of the unicorns! |
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Okay, how about a realistic alternative. I'm all for idealism but let's be pragmatic for a second, capitalism is not going to fall due to the current situation in Iraq. I'm pretty confident of that. So how about a viable (realistic) alternative? |
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The US media is biased towards the Bush administration. Our media in the UK is generally more balanced, tabloids aside. |
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its pointless discussing it now, the UN has tomorrow to decide wether they will uphold the resolution that 4 months ago called for "immediate dissarmament of face serious consiquences". If Iraq disssarms withing the next day or Saddam leaves the country we will have what everyone wants... peace. Its all up to Saddam |
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People who are opposed to ending this militarily never cease to amaze with their complete lack of realistic alternatives. |
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Too right, and it's not just 4 months. Disarmament was a condition for the cessation of the Gulf War 12 years ago. |
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"How will the Iraqis know if there is an improvement if they are all dead or mourning the loss of their children?" how about the people who could be killed by Saddam who may have lived had his regime been destroyed? it works both ways, don't think your morals are better than anyone else's cos there not. |
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"lack of realistic alternatives" thats because there is no alternative... we could give him another month like the French want but all this will do is give worse weather conditions for our (not the french) armed forces to work in. Saddam will not dissarm, its amazing how people after 12 years think he will. duh! |
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no alternatives?? impeach bush and vote michael jackson for president. I can't believe how obvious this is. |
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this war cant be stopped. get it on and over with and hope for better days. |
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You can't have Michael Jackson as president, he's bad. |
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1° saddam was really armed by the US (they gave him PLENTY of anthrax) 2° don't tell me this is to put saddam down, the region we speak (maybe you haven't listened to your history classes) has been the key to many worlwide crisis for long enough to know that it's purely for geopoliticoeconomico reasons bush&co want the war... 3° it's very easy to disarm saddam pacificaly if you have 100 000 000 000 $ 4° things aren't going to be better for irakis (discutable) and americans 5° i'm tired of people who can't see that History is just the same stories over and over again and belive that the war is done because bush fears saddam (LOL) or hate him |
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oh, may I ask bush to disarm? blair? putin? SHARON? kim yong II? and the beat goes on... |
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visit newamericancentury.com me is afraid |
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[bomb Iraq] |
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MARL!!!!! |
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it's newamericcentury.org sorry |
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atop, you throw out the most assining retoric i've heard. yes people will die in a war, what the fuck do you think it's called a war for. let me guess you thought you could order a big mac, large fries and war with no causalties. 1.5 million people have died under his regime and all he would have had to do is step down. nacmat you must be in denile. i don't see how you can use the logic of lets not attack causing a predicted less than 20,000 causlities while 100,000 STARVE TO DEATH everyyear. besides don't say that it's just the u.s becuase your goverment of spain is just as involved with the attack. look this is a aside but this world is govered by force. europe was not ready for hitler...people like saddam will never willingly step down. |
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