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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-03-15 11:54 [#00596512]
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I was reading thru old threads posted, and came across this cool little site that has ALOT of release dates and info for new albums...
Here
So if you SCROLL DOWN to the Autechre: Draft 7.30 and click on TRACKLISTING, look what he uses for a link....LOL....OUR BOARD!!!
He also mentions WATMM, I was like HUH when I saw trhis...ANyone know if this webmaster is a member here or there?...Just curious, I actually found ALOT of info on this site. Its well done...
Well just wonderin if anyone had any info on it, no biggie...
Cheers!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-15 12:02 [#00596522]
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That's titsworth's site.
He'll be happy when he reads your comments i'm sure :-D
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-15 12:03 [#00596524]
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yeah, he's pushing it all the time.. :P
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-03-15 12:05 [#00596529]
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Its TITS!!??
Wow...than hell, where is he, Ill buy him a round....I had no idea.
right on
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-15 12:11 [#00596534]
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yeah it has LOTS of interesting information for sure, but the design of the site makes me not want to go there very often :-)
But you've got to be impressed with all the stuff he seems to know that no-one else already knows :-p
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-15 12:16 [#00596539]
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if you keep your eyes peeled on the net you can find a LOT of stuff.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-15 12:19 [#00596540]
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true...
but "the net" is also full of bullshit ;-) Tits seems to always have information that is actually correct.
Besides, i'm too lazy to keep my eyes peeled on the net ;-)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-15 13:27 [#00596626]
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yes titsworth is a very reliable source
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-03-15 13:28 [#00596629]
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yay for titties
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-03-15 13:49 [#00596660]
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hey the reason he mentions it is cos so many people mention things DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS after he's had it on his site. so he's like IF you bother to check here, you'll find out some good info. =b
and just when you thought EVERYONE knew what was up.......you see that they don't!!
=0)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-16 15:21 [#00598220]
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maybe i should change the red design.. it looks good but i guess in the long run it's a bit of a pain. maybe i'll make it blue. check out the banners at the bottom of the page, for all of you with webpages of your own...
anyway, i stopped "pushing" my page on this board cos few people cared. if you guys wanna wait a few days or MONTHS for joyrex or phobia to post the same info, be my guest. i'm not going to stop updating it cos at least i find it useful for keeping track of music i plan to buy or at least download (and maybe buy). and come to think of it, enough people email or IM me to say they enjoy it, so if xltronic doesn't care it's not like i don't already have people who find the site useful.
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nacmat
on 2003-03-16 15:22 [#00598228]
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I dont know what you are talking about... I find it usefull...very usefull indeed
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-17 02:48 [#00598864]
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"maybe i'll make it blue."
lol... yeah that'll help ;-)
When i was talking about the design, i meant the fact that you have to read everything in order to find what you're looking for. Say i wanted to know something about the new mogwai-album, then i also have to read about plaid, air, gescom, methodman... etc. etc. etc.
Having just a list of all the artists featured on the site, and then linking those to the actual information would be a huge improvement imho.
But hey, it is your site ofcourse :-) If you're happy with it, don't change it. And if you don't care about the lack of response from this site -and i wouldn't-, then by all means keep it the way it is.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-17 02:52 [#00598869]
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yeah, i think an overall re-organization would help the layout.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-17 11:01 [#00599948]
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if you dingbats aren't smart enough to use ctrl+f to find what you're looking for then you don't deserve to know. honestly, some fucking people.
the organization for when the cd's are coming out:
SET RELEASE DATES
GENERAL - SEASONS
VAGUE - YEAR
what do you want me to do, make it alphabetical? please. makes no fuckin' sense. do you realize how many artists i cover on this page? the list would be enormous and quite useless. all you have to do is scroll down, the artist names are on the fucking left. and as for mixing release dates with unknown release dates, that's ludicrous because spring releases are always changing to summer, etc.
what it comes down to is this page has always been primarily for myself. i cover who i want to cover and organize it in a logical way that i find most appealing. there are other sensible ways to organize this page, but a list of artists i cover isn't one of them. use ctrl fucking F to search for a band name. it's NOT that difficult.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-17 11:11 [#00599978]
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:D
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-17 11:14 [#00599988]
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fucking charming that was
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-17 11:18 [#00600000]
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believe me i could've been much worse
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-17 12:58 [#00600234]
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"aren't smart enough to use ctrl+f"
...or maybe don't care enough.
"then you don't deserve to know. honestly, some fucking people."
Ha! I must say, i'm mainly going by what LeCoeur said on this subject. I haven't really ever seen you complain that not enough people care about your site, but from LeCoeur's post it seemed that you are frustrated about it.
But honestly... what do you expect with such an attitude? It sounds like we should feel honoured that the great titsworth is spending some of his valueable time to make that page for us.
And ctrl+F isn't such an ideal system at all actually. It seems to me that the point of your site is to inform people about things they didn't know yet. The main attraction is that you always seem to know things ahead of other people.
To stick to the mogwai-example: say i come to your site and i don't know yet mogwai is working on a new album. How am i supposed to know what to search for with the ctrl+f? I don't even know that there is any mogwai-news! So if i really want to use your site to full effect, i would need to make a list of every artist i'm interested in, and use ctrl+f for every single one of them! In the end it's easier to just scroll down and read everything --> but that is just too slow and frustrating and i can't be bothered to do that every week. Your site is just not user-friendly at all, and you might want to consider that the problem lies within your site, and is not a problem of everyone who visits it.
"what it comes down to is this page has always been primarily for myself."
Well if that is true, just keep it like it is. But don't act surprised if nobody comes to visit, and get upset when you don't get enough response when you're promoting your site here. And don't call people who don't like the layout of your site a dingbat! :-p
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-17 13:24 [#00600276]
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if you don't care enough why look at all? or post about it for that matter.
ctrl+F is a perfect system for not only that page but the web in general, not to mention your internal hard drive contents.
as for scanning for a certain band, it's really not that hard. if you don't see it with a definite release date on top, then scroll down. it's alphabetical, just compartmentalized.
as far as a list of what's updated, it's at the very top. there's no reason to re-read the same thing every week unless you're retarded or blind. the only time i'd expect someone to take it in all at once is maybe if it's their first time loading the page.
i don't bring it up here that i'm peeved people ignore my site, wait weeks or months for the same info to come out elsewhere, then get all excited about it. i've mentioned my frustration a couple times before but generally i'm not the sulking type. i look at it as your (not you specifically) loss, not my own. it's because i like almost everyone here that it bothers me how people could stay informed on this sort of thing if they only checked. but since people here ARE too much dingbats to check it even monthly, i rarely give the URL out, and when i do i mask it like "this is some page i found" instead of "hey guys why don't you go to my page :((((((((." that's not me.
the main attraction isn't just that i know some things before other people. for people who, like me, are into lots of different types of music, it's a one-stop resource for keeping tabs of what's coming out.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-17 13:42 [#00600312]
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"if you don't care enough why look at all? or post about it for that matter."
well it just frustrates me ;-) (frustration is a big word though, it's not like i'm having sleepless nights over this). I see a potentially wonderful site, ruined by your refusal to pay any attention to the presentation. That and LeCoeur's post made me write about it.
"that i'm peeved people ignore my site, wait weeks or months for the same info to come out elsewhere, then get all excited about it."
Yeah... okay. But whilst you're thinking: "what's wrong with those people?!"... you might also look at it the other way tound and think: "What am i doing wrong here?" The fact that people get excited about it means they are essentially interested in the information... so why don't they visit the site?
"it's because i like almost everyone here that it bothers me how people could stay informed on this sort of thing if they only checked."
Then anwser me this: why don't you just tell people all the good stuff right here on xltronic? It seems that would be easier for everyone involved (you included) ;-)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-17 17:32 [#00600828]
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refusal to pay any attention to its presentation? it may be raw and basic but it's organized exactly how i want it. it makes total sense. there are other good ways to go about it but that's the system i designed and it stands up.
part of the appeal about having to scroll down through release dates chronologically (jan. 3, jan. 10, mar. 15, etc.) is people find out about other good music they didn't even know was coming out. i constantly get comments like "i didn't even hear about that, good lookin' out!" so really it works two ways: for those who JUST want info on, say, autechre, do a ctrl+f on "autechre" or just scan down (it's alphabetical by SECTION). for those who want to know what else is coming out soon, just skim it; the artist names are in BOLD on the left. in addition, it says right at the top what was updated when, so it's not like they have no clue how to absorb the page.
it's true, there's a part of me that's frustrated and insulted, but mostly i'm not too sympathetic. if people here (and it's just people here, not elsewhere) are too damn lazy to get past the layout, the colors, etc., then fuck them. i purposely do NOT say shit that's on my page on here because people shouldn't be so lazy or rude. not to mention that is a very disorganized way to go about things and it excludes most of the people who visit the page.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-03-17 17:49 [#00600843]
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jeez...this went in a BAD direction.... I personally LOVE the site AND the info....
what happened here?...lol
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-03-17 17:51 [#00600844]
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yeah, for real..
Tits: I can find 'ctrl' and 'F' on my keyboard, but I don't think I have a 'fucking' key...
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-17 17:52 [#00600845]
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presentation is good color could be blue yeah ;)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-03-18 02:38 [#00601399]
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"people find out about other good music they didn't even know was coming out. i constantly get comments like "i
didn't even hear about that, good lookin' out!""
Hm... well that is a good point. I must admit i hadn't thought of that one yet.
"for those who JUST want info on, say, autechre, do a ctrl+f on "autechre" or just scan down"
I still don't agree on that part though :-p Or to put it another way: I'm not surprised many people can't be bothered to go through all that. And i don't think you can really blame them for it either.
"it says right at the top what was updated when"
If that list at the top would include every artist featured at the site, now that would be convenient. Just a list of all those names... so that you could instantly see what's on the site, and if there is something you want to scroll down to. (and you'd still have that same effect of people learnin about other good music coming out that they didn't even know about).
But it's obvious we don't agree with each other :-p And that's okay. This thread went in a bad direction? I don't think so (at least i didn't intend it to), i just see an interesting discussion. If it were my site, i would make some dramatical changes. But it isn't, so all i can do is give my opinion about it.
(and i do not mind the red color btw ;-) i don't think blue or any other color would be any better or worse than red).
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-18 02:52 [#00601422]
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if someone should get a tap on the shoulder for the way he replies on this mb, it should be you :)
i'm not talking about what you just said there, but the way you always copy quotes from others, make them italic and afterwards put effort in your reply on them
it's nice to read those kind of posts keep it up
*taps surrounded on the shoulder*
(shame you have such little points though ;-P )
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-18 02:56 [#00601427]
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we need a kramer on the board :)
oh and ctrl-f is awesome.. i never knew it :]
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-18 02:56 [#00601428]
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ehhh?? titsworth's is a great site! i like to scroll down the whole list see if i find something interesting, it just takes a minute and the added descriptions are helpful if i'm not familiar with the artist.
kudos to ya tits
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-18 08:55 [#00602014]
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"it says right at the top what was updated when"
If that list at the top would include every artist featured at the site, now that would be convenient. Just a list of all those names... so that you could instantly see what's on the site, and if there is something you want to scroll down to. (and you'd still have that same effect of people learnin about other good music coming out that they didn't even know about)."
that's like the laziest thing i've ever heard. there is NO set number of artists i cover on the page. if i like an artist and i find out about their new release, i add it. even if i were to pretend to JUST cover the artists that are on the page at the moment (which, as i just said, is not the case), the list would still be about, what, 125-150 names? do you realize how UNSIGHTLY that would be to have at the top of the page, let ALONE a waste of time? i refuse to believe that anyone besides YOU is so lazy they can't skim the page and read the artist names on the left, or the most recently updated names at the top.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-18 08:57 [#00602018]
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You could have the letters of the alphabet. That would be nice, it'd be just like Pitchfork.
*coos*
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-18 09:01 [#00602034]
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i thought about that but there are 3 (truly 4, counting the small list of shelved albums at the bottom) groups on the page and they're all alphabetical. now that i'll consider more because it could work out.
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