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just what does the word 'ambient' mean anyway? |
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i'd say something that makes you comfortable-music that fill in the space i dont know...:) |
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Encompassing on all sides; circumfused; |
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i used to think it was just another word for chillout, relaxed minimal music....but ive heard some epople refer to all idm as ambient.....*scratched his head in confundlerment* |
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Ambient according to Eno; "Ambient Music must be able to accommodate many levels of listening attention without enforcing one in particular; it must be as ignorable as it is interesting" |
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in my opinion, ambient is the exact type of music that produces moods and feelings in your brain, and forces these feelings to evolve whilst listening to the music. SAW2 is a good example of a CD that makes you feel a certain type of feeling (Lichen:Peaceful), then evolve (White Blur 2:Confused). |
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Personally I like to refer to music as >>> how it makes me feel... Two of my fav ambienttracks are Phoenix - Rising High (sweet ambienttrance from 1992 or so) and Orbital - Halcyon +on +on... Anyway what is called 'ambient' (the style) around where I live is music that builds up a feeling (-the style is called AMBIENT-) through different sounds/noises. So it ofthen feels experimental since there's ofthen lots of variation, or lots of variation around a theme. I'm probably wrong. But one should categorize music as how it makes you feel... Anyway if you've not heard thoose two tracks - go get them! Jam & Spoons ambienttrance also floats like liquid_cotton into my ears. sweet =) |
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i can listen to Lichen or Rhubarb anyday, and It makes me happy regardless of what happened that day. now that's ambient. |
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Interesting you see I wouldn't have regarded Orbital's 'Halcyon +on +on' as ambient music. To me ambient music is very much loose mood music, stuff which probably doesn't have beats I would definitely classify as ambient and it probably has to be mainly tonal. I think the whole ambient thing has involved into the 'IDM' category. The trend say 8-9 years ago was definitely ambient. It seemed to me that ambient records then had selling power, where as now it all seems to have gone into the background. I can't recall the last time for instance that Aphex Twin did what I might class as an ambient track. |
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It must serve the same purpose as heat or light... |
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i hate when i talk about ambient music and people always associate it with those sounds of waterfalls and thunder storms. i guess they didn't know ambience is also music. |
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'ambient' was just renamed 'chillout' by the guys in suits. |
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He he, I quoted that in a multimedia exam :) |
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Ambient is the french word for Atmosphere. |
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Ambient:denoting a style of of instrumental music with electronic textures and no persistant beat,used to creat atmosphere. |
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after first hearing saw1 i knew that i would never know what ambient is. |
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I'd say ambient is music that doesn't have lyrics or permenant context. It could sound say happy one day and sad the next. |
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As somebody said a few posts up, nearly a decade ago music that was electronic but not designed to be danced to was known as ambient. Somehow, the word ambient evolved into meaning beatless atmospheric type stuff, and anything with beats was not called ambient anymore, it became IDM or whatever. I think its daft myself - it was far more straightforward when anthything not for dancing to was called ambient. I dislike the term IDM myself - i think it sounds pretentious and doesnt actually mean anything. |
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thethirdball came the closest in defining the word ambient.. it means surrounding, basically.. brian eno applied the term to the musical concept he was working on.. music that became part of the environment, 'background' music to enhance the mood and atmosphere of the place..that wasnt supposed to hold your attention, but sort of drift in and out... like muzak, but with more substance on closer inspection it was originally erik satie's idea... he called it 'furniture music' music that could blend in perfectly with the sound of clanging silverware at the dinnertable i hope this clears things up a bit.. disregard its connection with the term 'chillout' that probably comes from its use in 'chillout' rooms in raves.. where they played mellow, psychadelic music and have pillows and whatnot for people to cool off a bit ..that led to people like the orb and whoever adding beats to it, creating stuff that isnt true ambient but is lumped under the category... leading to the term being overused on music that really isnt ambient (saw85-92) theres ambient house, ambient techno, etc.. if you want to get really technical |
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definitions are slippery. words and languages are like organisms. the categorization/definition is artificial. the true meaning of a word is fluid, not solid, and so you can place a definition on something but there will always arise at somepoint something that bends the definition. the true meaning will change over time and space. every single word has a slightly different essential meaning to each individual. even to the indivual the meaning will always be changing in both gradual unnoticeable and explicit ways. in a very real sense we all speak our own unique language and what we call a language is really a set of languages that are sufficiently compatible. and to beat it further i guess that means that no single language exists for any duration of time, all language becoming a new language with the passing of every infinitesimally small moment! sorry for the rant. |
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Jupitah, I think you should read Wittgenstein (if you havent already).. His ideas which are know as the "private language argument" would probably interest you a lot. |
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i think tokyojo's explanation makes the most sense.... |
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