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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-03-07 08:21 [#00584656]
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Are there Detroit fans on this MB? What a history! i like this music so much. Who agree with me?
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 08:23 [#00584657]
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i like icp and there from detroit.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-07 08:25 [#00584661]
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Yepski! Current detroit techno (adult et all) are very good.
I can't wait to see Carl Craig at ATP...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 08:27 [#00584664]
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I wonder how much those haters of the rich earn.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-03-07 08:27 [#00584665]
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kevin saunderson plays here tonight and claude young here tomorrow night........ i like it when i´m clubbing but i don´t bother buying it on vinyl or cd... too much experimental stuff to get really plus EVERYONE here has tons of techno so i couldn´t be arsed getting it
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-03-07 08:28 [#00584669]
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i like sub-urban knight and derrick may. now those are 'old detroit sound' i presume?
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 08:29 [#00584671]
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theres nothing wrong with having money and being successful. it's just that when you turn into an arrogant prick you start to look like a rich bitch, yanno. they have money but they don't flash it around and have million dollar homes. anyways, i think there lyrics are funny as hell and shaggy is the shit on turn tables.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 08:30 [#00584674]
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that was a follow up to spikee
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 08:33 [#00584683]
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Insane Clown Posse also hate bigots yet are blindly homophobic. I used to listen to them but when I woke up I sold my very large ICP collection to a record store for £25. He wanted to give me more but I told him it wasn't worth it (even tho I paid that for one of the CDs new alone.)
Anyway I do like Detroit Techno. Jeff Mills live @ the liquid room tokyo '95 kicks! }:>
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-03-07 08:36 [#00584691]
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Check out underground resistance!
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 08:36 [#00584692]
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calling someone a faggot is not being homophobic. if it is, then calling someone an asshole would also mean ur homophobic cuz ur scared of asshole.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 08:38 [#00584698]
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Erm, How about killing people because they are a 'faggot' does that count? That is a great message to send to influential fans yeah?
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 08:43 [#00584708]
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i've listened to almost all of icp's shit and ive never heard anything like that. you could maybe consider slim anus to be like that but its not directly towards gays, its just dissin eminem.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 08:52 [#00584727]
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Oh I like Slim Anus still :>
But dude, I can't remember what CD but I can recall a very quiet track on one CD that displays hate towards gays. It takes nothing to see they blindly hate gays but it's not right for me to bring this up about someone you admire as we are both bound to defend our viewpoints. Plus I've kinda drawn this topic away from it's original intent so I'll back down.
I listened to 'Fuck Off' by Shaggy 2 Dope real loud on headphones once on a bus and made the kind granny who let me sit next to her get up and move to the front of the bus a few miles before her stop. I used to be a right little dick head. :>
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 08:56 [#00584736]
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i know what you mean, but i honestly don't think they would make fun of a person who is really gay, becuz they are gay. i just think calling someone a faggot is an insult they use. but yes it is sort of hypocritical, but aren't we all in some ways?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-07 09:00 [#00584744]
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Yes, it's a bit like calling someone a retard- it shouldn't be an insult, but a lot of peopel do it. they aren't actually (well, I'd like to think most people aren't) making fun of handicapped people, it's just a stupid insult that has lost its original meaning a bit.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 09:03 [#00584749]
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yes indeed. i think we've come to a sort of understanding. i feel good about this :)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 09:05 [#00584755]
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Well yes but I would like to think I know the difference between playfulness, arousing a response and hate. But I mean at least there is a compelling argument against what I have to say. I heard a story of them beating up a transvestite (tempting but very hurtful towards that person) and the track where one of ICP are getting rather angry with a kid drawing a gay pride symbol on their workbook. It's kinda dangerous in my eyes to joke about shit like this when you are in a position to influence people. I've seen too many of my gay friends crying because of abuse they have undergone.
But as I say, I'd rather not discuss as you are hardly going to sway my opinion and I'm sure I won't change a jugallo. (I hope I got that right or I'll look quite the twat. :>)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-07 09:07 [#00584758]
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What's a jugallo? Do you mean "gigalo"?
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 09:07 [#00584760]
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What if you call a handicapped person a retard with hate behind it?
I'm missing my break here and need a piss!!! *runs off for a moment*
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 09:07 [#00584761]
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haha yeah. wouldn't it be boring if everyone thought the same. sometimes a disagreement is good.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 09:10 [#00584771]
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but only an asshole would call a retarded person an asshole. but i call my friends, which are not handicapped in any way, retards all the time. it's not exactly right but you and ur friends know that you are just kidding around.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-07 09:11 [#00584773]
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oops the first line i meant to day:
only an asshole would call a retarded person a retard
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 09:18 [#00584783]
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Yes, I certainly agree to that. I'd say preventing someone from voicing any hate they hold could be damaging too so no one ever wins at whatever the limit is to your thoughts.
I prolly still have a few ICP CDs kicking around, I'll let you know if I do Neo.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-07 09:18 [#00584784]
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Yes and you can make fun of a handicapped person even using politaclly correct terms if you're a ****er. Saying "He's differently abled" in a stage whisper in front of a person in a wheelchair for example.
It's more about the tone of voice, company (people present) and situation than the words themselves that convey the insult.
Like one of my flatmates calls me a "sheep shagger" which is a racial slur against me. It's funny because I know he's messing about and saying it in a comedy welsh accent. It's far more offensive when someone I'm not that friendly with snidely mentions "he's Welsh"...
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 11:11 [#00584930]
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back on the subject of detroit techno, yes i love it!
and uk techno: dave clarke, christian vogel, funk d'void
and german techno: dj hell, basic channel
etc, etc
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2003-03-07 12:41 [#00585060]
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What do you think of Drexiya
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 12:55 [#00585074]
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drexciya - "black sea" is masterpiece some of their stuff is too abstract/bleepy for me
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hobbes
from age on 2003-03-07 13:34 [#00585117]
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drexciya absolutely rule....(or did..but forever will for me)
anyone familiar with the whole concept behind it? (drexciya home universe...the seven storms...)..
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 13:55 [#00585138]
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not sure... don't they believe they were born from the coean or something??
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-03-07 14:01 [#00585142]
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Yeah! Drexciya is great!!! Check their releases on UR
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hobbes
from age on 2003-03-07 14:05 [#00585149]
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yeah...born from drowned slaves...they formed an aquatic civilisation....
drexciya is a planet near vega.. .the last thing they did before one member passed away was create 7 storms based around an album called harnessed the storm(tresor)...the other people place and translusion are a part of the storms...
i know they wanted each storms to start off in different parts of the world..therefore using different labels.....etc....etc...
the man who died stayed a truck driver all his life and rarely went out...saddly they never performed live...though there were hints that they would after having sent some drexciyan stingray scouts...ATP....
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 14:09 [#00585154]
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what exactly are the "storms" they created?
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hobbes
from age on 2003-03-07 14:13 [#00585157]
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i think there not all out...theres the opp on warp..2 translusions on rephlex...grava 4 on tresor..and harnessed to the storm...
apparently it will all make sense once there all out....
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hobbes
from age on 2003-03-07 14:16 [#00585160]
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they were all finished before J died...he knew he was gonna leave and gave directions to different labels as to what to do once hes gone back to drexciya.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-07 14:26 [#00585175]
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spooky! RIP J
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hobbes
from age on 2003-03-07 14:30 [#00585178]
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agreed
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-03-07 15:24 [#00585278]
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detroit what. 10mile
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hobbes
from age on 2003-03-07 15:26 [#00585281]
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yes elusive....too much number crunching today?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-03-07 15:27 [#00585282]
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fuck yeah work = = teh mind exhausting :(
but it's sooo worth it.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-03-07 15:33 [#00585288]
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do you find yourself having emotional links with your machines elusive?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-03-07 15:43 [#00585313]
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only with the fiber switches :)
62.5micron & .50micron glass tubes, wonder if i can stick my pen0s in there, get some pleasure.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-03-07 15:47 [#00585325]
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im always amazed at the prices some cables can get..... fiber switches...apparently you can see the future if you do...
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-10-30 20:19 [#00926312]
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omg dont stare at the Long Haul laser GBICs too long
bout went blind :(
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-10-30 20:49 [#00926384]
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Ehhh, I'm not too big on Detroit Techno. I prefer the British take on it.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-10-30 20:51 [#00926387]
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the british detroit techno?
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