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offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-03 13:28 [#00578920]
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I've always hated this, but while listening to it this
evening I had a strange love for it. The only problem I find
with it, is that on headphones many of the tracks don't
sound that "stereo-y" if you get me (really dry)
particullarly the first track (try it to see what I mean)
and some others.

I love track 2, with those odd chords and mangled voice now,
and also 3, since I can hear the different layers. The
second half has some great tunes too. I like this album more
now, although some if it is still unlistenable.

I also wondered why they made Outpt so repetetive...I
enjoyed it for a while...but It stays exactly the same (no
noticeable subtle changes like some other tracks)

What do you think?


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-03 13:32 [#00578929]
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love it. it is very much like i can only listen to a few
tracks at a time.. a lot of harsh moods :) pir is the
bitter-sweetest



 

offline rchrddvdjms from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-03-03 13:32 [#00578930]
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they probably need to use some reverb to seperate the
various elements


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-03 13:33 [#00578931]
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well it may not sound stereoy because the different channels
are being used for different sounds to give that expansive
busy feeling..

but i love EP7

Confield makes a lot more sense when heard in progression
after LP5 and EP7


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-03-03 13:34 [#00578933]
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ep7 rocks


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-03 14:02 [#00578968]
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Yes, but they should simply add a TINY bit of reverb or
chorus imho...its sounds like it's being played through some
mono headphones or something ridiculous like that. (note,
not all the tracks)


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-03-03 14:32 [#00578993]
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It's still my fav. Ae. - although last night I had a similar
experience with Confield. Wow, it really is that good.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-03 14:37 [#00578997]
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Do you think they made it really mono-sounding on purpose?
Or was it simply becuase they forgot to add any stereo
effects?

I know it sounds like a ridiculous complaint, but
seriously...it's really annoying to listen to on my CDman
(on the pc, I add a little reverb myslef, and it sounds
great)


 

offline slint on 2003-03-03 14:40 [#00579002]
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come on guys you're fanatics.the production is amazing as in
all ae records.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-03 14:46 [#00579010]
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No no no! :D

No, seriously, I KNOW I am being picky but as a musician
shit like this really pisses me off...I mean, couldn't they
be arsed to make it sound good/stereo? I mean, I ALWAYS add
a slight touch of reverb to the first track (try it, with
headphones...it sounds so much better)


 

offline skeeves from Brisbane (Australia) on 2003-03-03 18:28 [#00579292]
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Yeah, it doesn't bother me particularly much and I love EP7.
To me it seems like they were trying to create a certain
mood. Who knows, maybe adding reverb would have changed the
mood?


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-03 18:33 [#00579297]
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reverb renerally destroys moods because it is such a
cliche..


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2003-03-03 18:40 [#00579308]
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ep7 = the radiclist


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-03 18:47 [#00579317]
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ep7 is the beginning


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2003-03-03 18:55 [#00579320]
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i'm an "amber" man, m'self.

though ep7 is fantastic like tacos. love tacos. tacos full
of love...that is.


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-03-03 20:04 [#00579369]
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ep7's problem is it's trying to be an album with EP material
on it. Therefore, the whole thing sounds out of whack:
Half very good tracks, half throwaways. That's not an Ae
album...


 

offline electro from detroit on 2003-03-03 20:07 [#00579371]
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love it
one of my fav


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-03-03 21:44 [#00579492]
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ep7 is electronic music


 

offline loaderror from kansas city (United States) on 2003-03-03 22:26 [#00579527]
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bollocks, confield is a whole spectrum of moods just like
ep7 is, every last fucking track on ep7 is excellent or why
would they bring it out in the US, and why would it be my
favorite to this day. outpt is a gurgling epic and one of
their classics, the few seconds of white noise in the
beginning.. you want to call that song repetitive when
chiastic slide sounds like a broken laundry machine half the
time, not that i don't adore that album, but yalls just
fessin don't TRIP


 

offline loaderror from kansas city (United States) on 2003-03-03 22:27 [#00579528]
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HOLLA


 

offline soze from Kingston (Jamaica) on 2003-03-03 23:46 [#00579567]
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stereo tricks are just that: tricks.

Outpt does change, you just arent listening. Listen to the
things that are not beats. It's actually one of the illest
melodic tracks on the record if you listen closely. Clue:
listen to the WHOLE thing.

Holla.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-04 16:23 [#00580695]
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Ok, I'll give that track another try.

But try it on headphones-the lack of panning, or any
stereo-effect makes SOME tracks sound dead. imho.


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-03-04 16:26 [#00580703]
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Outpt changes in tone and groove, but it's just not very
interesting compared to the other tracks...


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-04 16:37 [#00580719]
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though I love ep7 I agree with you there


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-03-04 16:40 [#00580725]
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I like ep7 as well, especially after Confield came out, but
as I stated before; as a record it doesn't mesh very well.


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-04 16:43 [#00580727]
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It's a very good autechre album in my opinion. Outpt on the
other hand is one of the worst autechre songs I've ever
heard.
The rest of the album is very good, I love the good old
autechre beats and the melodies.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-04 16:44 [#00580732]
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ep7 1 is ok
ep7 2 is great for me


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-03-04 16:45 [#00580736]
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ep7 is my fave autechre release so far....



 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2003-03-04 16:48 [#00580740]
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it's a great album, second only to Confield.
i even like outpt, them chord changes rock


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-04 16:49 [#00580742]
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it is not an album


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-04 16:50 [#00580746]
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in autechre the concept of EP is very different to what an
album is... they give the eps a clear use... and ep7 is
that... an ep, not in its lengh maybe, but it is an ep in
the whole concept


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2003-03-04 16:51 [#00580750]
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technically no, but i still think of it as one.


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-03-04 17:24 [#00580776]
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True. But Autechre's EPs sometimes function as records onto
themselves (e.g. Garbage), not to mention they're good
indicators as to the direction of their next LP. ep7 is a
bit hard to swallow as a self-standing record, but it was a
great indicator as to how Confield turned out.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-03-04 17:36 [#00580778]
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well ep7 really was born as two eps wasnt it?

ep7 1 and ep7 2??

in this case, ep7 2 works great as an album imo


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-03-04 17:57 [#00580789]
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ep 7.1 and ep 7.2 were born as two pieces of vinyl. All
those tracks couldn't fit one piece of high-quality vinyl.

7.2 does work better, I'll give you that, though "liccfli"
is out of place among the others...IMO.


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-03-04 18:22 [#00580821]
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damn straight


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2003-03-04 20:02 [#00580894]
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i disagree that ep7 was a good indicator of what confield
would sound like . . . confield was a complete un-expected
sound i think...

ep7 and peel sessions 2 are similar though


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-04 20:12 [#00580901]
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thank god ae stopped using as much reverb as they used to
(most notably on "amber" and "tri repetae").

imo, it does sound cheap and it is really
unnecessarry.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-05 12:13 [#00581909]
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Yes, I merely used reverb as an example of a way to make a
track stereo-sounding. The second track has no reverb, but
it sounds stereo. The first sounds really mono.


 


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