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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-27 04:02 [#00572709]
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http://www.nme.com/news/104309.htm
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 04:03 [#00572712]
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?????? not del naja!!!
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 04:07 [#00572718]
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Woah..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 04:08 [#00572719]
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btw, what is qualified as child-under 18, 16?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-27 04:08 [#00572721]
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I'm shocked this time
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-27 04:08 [#00572724]
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16 here mate. But I make up my own rules!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-27 04:10 [#00572726]
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I can't access that page... give me a synopsis.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-27 04:11 [#00572727]
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:(
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 04:11 [#00572728]
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Crikey moses...
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-27 04:11 [#00572730]
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massive atack sleep with babies but there is no murderer in the room :/ the world is nasty
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-27 04:15 [#00572737]
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I always thought there was something creepy about that cunt. It's his eyes. Shifty. Don't trust him. Can I be the first to say that I will not be any more massive attack albums ever again. I'm not funding some paedo's perversions.
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martinhm
from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 04:16 [#00572739]
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For Ceri and anyone else who can't access the page:
MASSIVE ATTACK STAR ARRESTED OVER ALLEGED INTERNET CHILD PORN OFFENCES
MASSIVE ATTACK's 3-D has been arrested and questioned by police over alleged Internet child porn offences.
The star, real name Robert Del Naja, was bailed by officers working on Operation Ore, the national crackdown on child porn.
Detectives seized computer equipment and a quantity of suspected drugs during a raid at Del Naja's home in Bristol on Monday (February 25).
A spokesman for Avon And Somerset Police said: "A man in his 30s from Bristol was arrested on February 25 in connection with allegations of the possession of class A drugs and Internet porn offences.
"He was bailed pending further inquiries."
The arrest was made under Avon And Somerset's Operation Ricochet, part of Operation Ore, the national crackdown on child porn.
Del Naja told The Sun newspaper today (February 27): "I have never looked at child pornography in my life.
"I am co-operating fully with the police and I would aks everyone not to judge me prematurely. I have total faith in the justice system."
Published: 27-02-2003-10-34
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nacmat
on 2003-02-27 04:17 [#00572741]
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I am sure he is innocent
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-27 04:20 [#00572744]
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I would really like to think he's innocent. I can believe the drugs charges, but kiddie porn?
I'll wait for more evidence before I make a decision on what I think.
If he's guilty I'll join the lynch mob. It'll only be down the road :P
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-27 04:20 [#00572745]
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Probably just album promotion to get 100th Window selling!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 04:22 [#00572747]
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Everything to do with porn can be dodgy these days. I've downloaded a file off Kazaa which might have a name like "Jenna Jameson Car Fuck" and then when it's finished it's got a different file name like "My 14 Year Old Sister" and you open it up and media player has another file name like "Child Fuck Kiddy Cunt" - and it's some 50 year old boiler drinking cum from a glass.
Can you get arrested for file names? Will they prosecute? Or do they need actual hard evidence that the images are under age? How do they determine it, by the number of pubes? What's the distinction?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-27 04:24 [#00572749]
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Tell it the the judge, jarworski you sick pevert.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 04:25 [#00572750]
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Hmm.. judge jarworski has a nice ring to it...
But exactly, if they come and raid my house JUST as I've downloaded a misnamed file, I'd have little fucking defence would I?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-27 04:28 [#00572751]
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Won't somebody just take a moment to think of the children?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-27 04:28 [#00572753]
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It's a very valid point and somthing I've wondered about. Perhaps if they check the daye you DLed it, if you opened it,watched it and didn't then delete it it'd be proof?
Maybe the courts view is that people who use p2p are guilty...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-27 04:31 [#00572757]
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*remembers bill_hicks as the person who always complained about morton's english*
...silly things like: "inpolite should be impolite"
well mr. "I will not be any more massive attack albums" / "sick pevert" .. it's a funny thing that you immediately believe everything you read.
well it's on the net (or in the paper)! so it must be true right?
i'm not saying it isn't true (that Del Naja story) but i'd like to see some proof before judging someone
:D but that's just me
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 04:32 [#00572759]
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jarworski, and everyone else, you may be interested to know that nowadays your IP address is broadcast everywhere you go, as opposed to the way it was about 2 years back. there is a thing called a MAC address which comes from the motherboard in your computer, i.e. it is unchangeable, and about a year ago a new law was sneaked in quietly, allowing the police unlimited access to server records of where your IP/MAC address has been. it is called Operation Ricochet because anyone viewing child porn is simply shooting themselves in the foot immediately, as all the figures are there for Big Brother to browse at his leisure. they are on a mission to make an example of as many hi-profile celeb cases as they can. There will be many more of these arrests, just wait and see, it's just the beginning.
The worst part?: If you 'accidentally' view something dodgy, there is a MAC trace proving that you looked at it.
George Orwell eat your heart out.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-27 04:33 [#00572761]
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Talking of which, how many of you guys are waiting for the police to come knocking on your door? There must be some of you who think they've been caught by this operation ore thingy.
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 04:37 [#00572769]
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Jeez, I never expected to hear that one.... Fuck.. Pete Townshend and now Del Naja? For now I'll believe the drug charge.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 04:39 [#00572771]
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I wouldn't give a fuck if they're looking at everything I do. I've never seen any underage porn in my life, and I intend to keep it that way. Kazaa is rife with it but it's easy to avoid (unless you download 'Daredevil' and it turns out to be Michael Jackson and friends)
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nacmat
on 2003-02-27 04:39 [#00572772]
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come on ... he is innocent...
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-27 04:44 [#00572773]
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It would explain why that album turned out to be the warm lump of shit that it did. Too much surfing, not enough composing.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-27 04:49 [#00572779]
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okay.. it's time to jump ship on this aphex twin thing.. do it before the cops take his computers and find that he too is child obsessed
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-27 04:51 [#00572781]
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Boards of Canada seem pretty obsessed as well.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-27 04:53 [#00572783]
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Interesting stuff indeed!
I think piracy etc. will go largely unchecked (far too much to control), but for stuff like kiddie porn I think it's a good idea. I'd like to see something in place to stop the situation Jar described from happening.
For the extra paranoid, I'm sure there must be a way of getting blackmarket MB chips that alter your MAC address?
Excuse my ignorance, but I take it your MAC address is different to your Mac IP address (if you look at all IP addys on your machine you see a mac one too...)?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-27 04:53 [#00572784]
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how many of you guys are waiting for the police to come knocking on your door? There must be some of you who think they've been caught by this operation ore thingy.
i'm disgusted by the fact that you act as though some of the people here are paedophiles or watching child porn
do you even think before you post something? i rather listen to 100th window than to your accusations
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 04:53 [#00572785]
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what's it like waking up everyday and realising your still a miserable c**t?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 04:55 [#00572787]
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but what is this evidence? is it enough for the police to find a photo of this shit or is this based on credit card access to child porn sites?
i mean we're pretty much free to do what ever we want around here-we have the full access to whatever you prefer, but i guess they'll work something out about this, as lots of people are complaining
but you know, joining nato comes first!
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-27 04:59 [#00572789]
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fuck this thread, this is really too pathetic, now all of a sudden everybody is accused of liking child porn (aphex, BoC and even 'some of the people here' according to mr. hicks)
i'm not saying the actual topic was stupid, but the way some people react on it really blows my mind
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nacmat
on 2003-02-27 05:03 [#00572791]
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many times I enter porn sites... and some times I ve seen some shitty stuff, (cos it poppedup) I really dont like, so I just closed it , but hey I have already oppened it...so I am a criminal??
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-27 05:04 [#00572792]
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Calm down Morton. Hicks says these things tongue-in-cheek and likes to provoke a reaction. Ignore him.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-27 05:06 [#00572793]
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This was something we discussed a lot in a module that dealt with computer use. If I remember correctly, there is no precedent set on whether popups count as you opening them or not.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-27 05:07 [#00572794]
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i know, but it bothers me that that (provoking) seems to be the only reason he comes to this mb
everyone can talk crap there's no need to show of with that
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 05:09 [#00572796]
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this is what i think-if you're using your credit card to access to this sites, there should be some penalty-appart from that i dont know...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 05:12 [#00572798]
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of coarse not, that would be stupid
police had better spend their cash on cathing the guys that make the kiddy porn and torture them real bad or something
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-27 05:20 [#00572801]
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I agree.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 07:00 [#00572906]
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For sex, 16. For porn, 18.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 07:45 [#00572968]
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does this mean their gigs are on stand by? i was getting ready to visit them in verona!
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-02-27 08:10 [#00572999]
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jarworski, and everyone else, you may be interested to know that nowadays your IP address is broadcast everywhere you go, as opposed to the way it was about 2 years back.
I'm not sure if you're trying to scare people or just misinformed. Your unique IP address has always been attached to every web page and image you view and available to the server operator. What has changed in the last few years is the proliferation of broadband and increase in static IP addresses, as opposed to dynamic IPs of dial-up. These make it a bit easier to track people, but even a dial-up ISP will (or should) have records of which phone number was using an IP address at a certain time.
You're also confused about MAC (hardware) addresses. They are not used in the manner in which you described to track anything. They are fixed in hardware, but can be easily changed in software and there are several legitimate reasons for doing so.
In short you've made a very misleading post. :(
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-27 08:22 [#00573027]
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Yeah, that's happened to me... they always ''accidentally'' mislabel vids... you'll download ''Brianna Banks Dildo'' and you'll get a guy getting his hands chopped off. Or the particularly devious kiddy stuff... I've gotten a couple ''sneaky'' ones and then when I realized what they were... arg. Thought maybe the guy I downloaded it from was maybe a cop looking for sickos, but really, the file WAS named innocently, and they can't nab me for downloading what I THOUGHT was Zoe's Dildo Show!
(by the way, look for that vid, Zoe's good)
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-27 09:46 [#00573139]
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linky ? :P
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-27 09:57 [#00573158]
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Cheers for clearing that up Whale.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-28 03:28 [#00574101]
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Anyone ever think that the "evidence" linking 3D to this crime may have been manufactured by the police? After all he is quite vociferous about his condemnation of any miltary action against Iraq. Taking out 2 page ads in the NME and things like that can't please the government.
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