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offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-27 03:20 [#00572667]
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that makes you love it?
i was thinking about this last night when i was trying to
fall asleep (and i was dead tired) with that live
squarepusher cd-i was awake untill the cd finished, it was
just impossible not to think of what this guy is doing.
i like idm because of the music itself-im sure this is the
case with all of you that like idm, but i often read reviews
about this music (by music critics) and they all speak
pretty high of it even if it is not they favourite genre.
so perhaps my question would have to be-what is the value of
idm music?
for me the value of the certain music is that it doesnt get
outdated-i mean music i can listen to after ten years and it
still blows my mind away. it is also pretty good if it
doesnt bore me (it happens a lot), and idm pretty much keeps
my mind occupied...


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 03:25 [#00572672]
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It's techno, I love techno. But it's interesting, different
and real. (most of the time) A good example of why I'm here
would be Caustic Window.


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-02-27 03:28 [#00572674]
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nout outdated is a very good description, you can't put it
in a style, IDM is just a definition, but not a style
direct, what squarepusher is doing is more sound-science
mixed experimental rhythm jazz music, i can't even describe
an IDM track, it's more lifestyle you know. the reviews are
lame sometimes ... IDM is the pioneer art in todays
electronic music.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 03:29 [#00572675]
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caus its great music

and i truly hope it wont go mainstream, caus that would fuck
things up real bad (mu ziq the best of at the grocery store,
overproduced crap, seeing idm all the time on mtv)


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 03:29 [#00572676]
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yah the diversity is what i like about it...

you cant really put yer finger on it


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-02-27 03:31 [#00572677]
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it won't go mainstream, as long the mass are still thinking
with eyes and not with ear and brain.


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 03:31 [#00572678]
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Dude, that will never happen. The worst it would get is
Madonna trying to get a trance twat to emulate the style on
her new single. Music is an example, listen to how close to
windowlicker it gets in places.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-27 03:33 [#00572680]
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after a prolonged jam, fucked up electro makes house music
and normal techno feel like crisp airconditioning



 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 03:34 [#00572681]
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you mean tie another day?

MAAAAN

i was at the movies, die another day (liked it, as shallow
as a puddle but great effects and all) and i almost forgot
about madonnas song, but then all of a sudden that annyoing
voice kicked in

i wanted to mutilate myself


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-02-27 03:36 [#00572682]
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idm is a lifestyle.


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-02-27 03:37 [#00572683]
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braindance is a lifestyle too.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-27 03:39 [#00572684]
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the lifestyle is killin me :/

im getting 'bags under my eyes the size of canada'

man i dropped out of uni cos i was too busy jamming :)



 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-27 03:39 [#00572685]
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thats just a standard artist thing tho isnt it.



 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-27 03:40 [#00572686]
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dude, youre the michael jackson of electro.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-27 03:43 [#00572688]
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idm fucked me up pretty good, i remember i used to like some
pop music as well, but since im into idm i cant really
listen to pop music, i mean i like a song here and there,
but only for a short period
example-when i get to hear a new idm track i can listen to
it on repeat like 100 times (im doing it right now hehe) and
it hits me each time
but whenever i listen to some pop tune i get a feeling its
kind of shallow-and dont get me wrong, i dont think this
just because its pop, but it really bore me and i usually
cant give it a listen more than once...


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 03:44 [#00572690]
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lets make idm gear so we can all recognise eachother and
noone will know about us


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-27 04:04 [#00572714]
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idm is good cos it is not made to sell lots of copies , it
is made just in search of good music... so normally it
becomes good music


 

offline Kill Switch from Belgium on 2003-02-27 06:34 [#00572874]
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I have the same feeling. I guess it has someting to do with
the feeling that IDM has opposite to 'normal' music.

I like IDM 'cause almost every album sucks you deep into it.
You listen to popmusic, you expierence IDM.


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-27 06:42 [#00572888]
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I can never fall asleep to music unless it's violently
ambient


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-02-27 06:42 [#00572889]
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what? wrong!

idm gets outdated very quickley! the whole point of avant
guarde music is to be new and original, and in a genre that
evovles as fast as idm does, it is the genre most suseptable
to aging......think about it, a rock hit from the 60s can
still be played today amongst todays rock and i for one cant
tell the difference, but idm from 1990 is unlistanable...or
is it just me?


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 06:43 [#00572890]
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i reckon its because it doesn't have a specific style. it
can be anything, and is a really forward thinking "thing."
it is constantly reinventing itself as a genre. saw 2 is
idm, so is go plastic and so is wevie stonder. but they all
sound different to each other. house is house but idm is
always mutating into something new. drill n bass, glitch
etc, etc


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-02-27 06:45 [#00572893]
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nope sorry, idm to me doesn't age. i luv it all. i can
listen to an idm song over and over even after ive bought 5
new cds. it seems to me your looking for sumthing in idm.
ur waiting for sumthing new and original but you don't
realize its all different and original.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-27 07:03 [#00572909]
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i guess rock cm be compared to idm in terems of aging-i mean
people into rock music can listen to 60's rock (some of
those songs i like myself)
but it is the same with idm (for me)-i love the releases
from 10 years ago aswell as the new ones
but compared to pop music-i dont know any people into pop
music that stll listen to pop music that was on top 10 years
ago...


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-02-27 07:10 [#00572924]
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i say '10 years ago' but im still thinking its the nineties,
like 2000 onwards is an extension of the decade.....and old
pop is better than new, thankyouverymuch :P


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-02-27 07:11 [#00572926]
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no way man, you can experience michael jackson's stuff,
waaay!

idm...i like party idm the most
idm you can dance to
coz it's dancy and also has tons of detail t spoil your ears
with



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-27 08:33 [#00573048]
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A lot of it has to do with the lack of lyrics for me... I'm
very picky, most words and singers tend to turn me off.
Sometimes I really just don't want to hear people. Weird
reason.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 08:38 [#00573061]
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yeah mr iain...

i can listen to both jake slazenger as tim tetlow, imo idm
is something that doesnt age...

i think i can still enjoy my copy of lunatic harness in the
year 2030 (if there will still be cd players of course)


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-27 08:46 [#00573075]
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a bad singer can completely ruin a band

* thinks of peach


 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 09:15 [#00573099]
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I can't fall asleep to electronica,because it seeks so music
attention,its not background music .
I even tried falling asleep to ageatis byrjun last
night,didn't work,I was grinning beyond control at its
beauty.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-27 10:13 [#00573186]
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i love it cos i'm a sheep in reverse, i like what other
nerds tells me to like


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-02-27 10:26 [#00573206]
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Opchecks....

i agree. i find myself getting really annoyed at lyric-based
music too. It nails a song down into too much of a fixed
idea. I like radiohead cos its mood driven and the lyrics
are so abstract they don´t make the songs too stagnant....
The electronica i listen too seems to always change . its
stimulating. pop isn´t


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-27 10:31 [#00573211]
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songs in pop structure are inherently stimulating, you just
turn a deaf ear to the genre cos the songs they play on the
radio are so mindless. that's like sayin' classical is
catchier than pop.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 10:35 [#00573212]
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not catchier, being catchy is the whole point to pop music


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-27 10:36 [#00573215]
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im not big fan of classic music but i like piano classic
music
to compare it with pop
pop music kind of makes me nervous, probably because it
bores me (not all pop music tho)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-27 11:07 [#00573237]
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as i said: turning a deaf ear toward a perfectly
enjoyable, not to mention easy to find and easy to
experience with others, form of music.


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2003-02-27 11:21 [#00573261]
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check this 'ere out!
ideas = here


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-02-28 15:08 [#00574848]
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hey! what are you real-naming me for!


 

offline AphexAcid from Sweden on 2003-02-28 16:09 [#00574925]
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It's aggresive, it's phuqqed up, it's beautiful, it's sad,
it's happy - just the way life is.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-28 16:13 [#00574931]
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hey, you could say that for rock music aswell! :)


 

offline phiz from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-28 16:27 [#00574940]
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its just another form of emotive music, just like all genres
thers quality and shite, its not just Idiot Dance Music,its
everything, if it effects you, nobody else, then its good,
end of.



 


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