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Red
from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-02-20 22:52 [#00563928]
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Here's a link to send a fax to show that you would prefer an alternative to WAR on the Feb 26th a Virtual March is planned where you can fax, email or ring your senators to show your support for a peaceful resolution....
http://www.truemajority.com/index.asp?action=2467&ms=virt6
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static
from tempe (United States) on 2003-02-20 22:55 [#00563930]
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awesome-thanks!!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-20 22:57 [#00563932]
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this war is going to happen all you closed mind fucking hippies can suck it.
seriously, war is inevitable.
no matter how much you sit here on your cute little keyboards and matching monit0rs, the world is still a shitty place, and there _are_ shitty people out there.
why can't you get it through your lil heads.
the public doesn't know everything going on.
we got a couple nice warnings, i work very a large automotive company, quite large, and quite frankly some of that shit is just down right ________
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Red
from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-02-20 23:00 [#00563936]
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The thread said for anti-war americans only you racist fucker
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Red
from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-02-20 23:03 [#00563937]
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good on you static
here's a link to an exhibition - faces of iraq that is touring the States...
http://facesofiraq.org/faces/index_flash_new.htm
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vamason
from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:06 [#00563940]
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i'm for the freakin war... i believe war is horrible, however, it IS a necessary evil... Saddam has violated so many of the UN resolutions and has not shown any evidence of getting rid of his weapons... war is the only options... nobody thinks war is GOOD
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:11 [#00563943]
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perhaps you should educate
yourself on the issue a little more
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static
from tempe (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:21 [#00563946]
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elusive...please lets refrain from the name calling... if you knew me better you would see that i am far from closed minded
vamason...where's the evidence that Iraq has WMD?...I agree that Saddam is a fuckface but there are plenty of other fuckfaces out there that should be taken care of as well...the US is too trigger happy right now and not willing to proceed with any diplomatic solutions. in fact the bush administration admitted recently that N. Korea is a greater threat than Iraq, yet they are still pushing for immidiate war in Iraq. anyway, i grow weary of arguing about this all the time so im going to bed...
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:25 [#00563948]
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better a hippie than a warhawk
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static
from tempe (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:26 [#00563949]
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wait, I'm back...what say we form a soverign nation, join the UN, and call the US on all it's human right's atrocities and UN violations...
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:28 [#00563950]
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3 words...
god damn hippies.
you turn this country into a sac-o-pussies.
my langauge may be strong, but i just don't understand it.
these ppl think that it is EASY to avoid war.
these ppl think that you can just MAGICALLY MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER by protesting in the streets.
well wake the fuck up.
you can't avoid every war, lol, nice try tho.
6 months ago, UN knew this day might come.
and i love all the people that just draw their own conclusions.
you think the .gov has released all their knowledge to the public? yah,,riiiiight.
whatever you guys say. id fight for my country in this instance any fucking time. if they need me, im gone.
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vamason
from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:28 [#00563951]
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did any of you watch Bush or Powell's case for war against Iraq?
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vamason
from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:31 [#00563952]
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it seems as though most idm fans are smart, but liberal as hell... still not sure why that is... i'm probably the most conservative... i'm a freakin Calvinist!
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:35 [#00563954]
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i say we americans do whatever the hell we please! i mean...we are america! we are SOOOOO much better than everyone else so who gives a shit?! we'll bomb everything now and worm our way out getting blamed later!
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static
from tempe (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:35 [#00563955]
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yes i did, and i know where this is going...but at the same time that Bush and Powell were making there cases, the CIA released information that it is uncertain wether Iraq has WMD. Bush says he has is own intelligence sources...must be his active imagination.
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:37 [#00563957]
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by the way, you people need to
be more like me and T.W. and get your link shit together.
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vamason
from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-02-20 23:38 [#00563958]
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what makes you think Saddam would cooperate with MORE diplomacy?... he hasn't thus far
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Red
from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-02-21 02:55 [#00564078]
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Why is Iraq summed up as one person and there is plenty of proof that Iraq has been cooperating with inspectors...so far...if that was the case why is Saddam not worried about arming his civilians with guns to protect themselves from invasion of US/UK and Australien forces risking an uprising and an overthrow of his own regime?
Why hasnt he cooperated so far - 1441 who came up with this resolution?
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Red
from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-02-21 02:57 [#00564080]
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Thanks for making the link I was feeling lazy today :)
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-02-21 02:59 [#00564082]
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i remember this article i saw once.. saddam and chirac or whoever it was in charge of france looking at a nuclear power plant, with a text by chirac, 'saddam will eternally be my friend. he is great man and i respect him.'
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-21 03:08 [#00564092]
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"these ppl think that you can just MAGICALLY MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER by protesting in the streets."
what dumb bullshit.
and attacking other countries WILL make everything better?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-21 03:08 [#00564093]
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you mean the one where Powell heavily resorted to quoting from this dossier by Blair?
And the one where the satellite surveillance pictures were according to Hans Blix
Blix also cast doubt on some intelligence submitted by Powell. He questioned a section of Powell's evidence to the Security Council on Feb. 5, saying that two satellite images shown in his presentation did not prove that Iraq was clearing the site of forbidden munitions.
"The reported movement of munitions at the site could just as easily have been a routine activity as a movement of proscribed munitions in anticipation of an imminent inspection," Blix said.
is that the CASE we are talking about???
yes I did..funniest broadcast ever..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-21 03:16 [#00564098]
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yeah I saw that too.
not very convincing.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-21 03:20 [#00564107]
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bribes - the price of innocent Iraqi blood
"We're working closely with the Turks," Bush told reporters. "We have great respect for the Turkish government. They've had no better friend than the American government, and hopefully we can come up with an agreement that's satisfactory to both parties. We're still working it."
In exchange for Turkish help, the United States is offering Ankara an aid package that includes about $6 billion in grants and up to $20 billion in loan guarantees. So far Turkey has balked at the offering, seeking twice that amount.
Fleischer said negotiations had reached a crucial stage.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-21 03:50 [#00564124]
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thanks a lot i was searching for that link, i heard that yesterday :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-21 03:52 [#00564126]
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it makes me wonder how much saddam is offering turkey :)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-21 03:55 [#00564128]
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http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-21 04:02 [#00564129]
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hehehehe
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-21 04:03 [#00564130]
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he is offering plenty to Mother Russia:p
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-21 06:28 [#00564341]
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there is more than meets the eye, my friend.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-21 06:29 [#00564344]
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Let's just face it, I'm willing to bet 90% of the people out there really have no idea what's going on, but they hear "war" and scream "wtf."
Do you think that we can solve every problem without war?
Really, we sometimes abuse our power, but we sure as FUCK help out more countries than we hurt.
Just think if the US stopped supporting allthese countries, then what would happen?
ILL TELL YOU WHAT WOULD HAPPEN,
MORE FUCKING WAR.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-21 06:30 [#00564346]
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People say we "Police the world."
I say we have to act like their fucking mothers and keep them in line.
6billion people on this planet, you think every single one of them shares your views?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-21 06:50 [#00564382]
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You talk so much shit your anus needs an ice-pack.
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Red
from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-02-21 07:29 [#00564444]
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1 Billion Plus in the Middle East...280 million people in US, makes you small doesnt it -
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-21 07:33 [#00564455]
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i can't influence what is going to happen, none of you can so i'm spending my time digging an underrgrround layerr and buying baked beans. i rrecommend you do the same, a fax to GWB won't save you.
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Mein Klein
from Iraq on 2003-03-30 09:52 [#00624024]
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elusive!!!
Wake the fuck up! mr shit for brains But i dont blame u. coz u r a motherfucking brainwashed.
''NEMESIS''
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-03-30 09:54 [#00624025]
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brainwashed huh
wow
please explain instead of posting an irrelevant comment followed by an insult
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-30 09:54 [#00624027]
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apperantly iran is next country to be attacked by US...
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Mein Klein
from Iraq on 2003-03-30 10:10 [#00624038]
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i've nothing else to say.blame me,say whatever u want.
(ok i'll say i'm sorry for the ''bad'' words, to u and to all the other members who saw my post)
I used this type of speech coz i feel anger,i feel pain,i feel sorrow,i felt used.
But please my friend.Try to be objective. Stop leting 'em using you.I hope some day you'll be able to understand.
And btw,i 'm not a hippie.Whats a hippie anyway...
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-30 15:33 [#00624424]
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looking inthe buisness papers of a uk broadsheet toda - this invasion shows all the signs of a corporate usd government sponsored imperialist takeover .
that's why there should be no war in iraq - it was all set out in 19997 anyway by disck cheney and the "new american century " group who aimed for a more aggressive us foreign policy beforethey were in power and lobbied the democrats at the time - dick cheney was amongst them
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