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Once and for all, what is it? Is that like where AE takes a sample and loops it at a high speed until it becomes the waveform of a pitch? Is that what you call it where they do the speeding up bouncing metal bearing sound? Are there any virtual synths that can do that, or do I need hardware? |
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say you have a 1 second sample. say you take the first 1/4 second and repeat it for 3 seconds, you then go into the next 1/4 second and you do the same thing. this is a simple version of granulation you could essentially do in soundforge or some sort of wave editor easily enough. there are softsynths and hardware that im sure produce the same sound. theres many ways of going about it. speeding up a tempo, stretching, wave pasting. when you hear it you usually know when it is granular though. |
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that sounds like you just stretch it out |
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You can do it with sound recorder. I've done it before. Just cut something up into lots of itty bitty pieces and then put all those pieces together. It's kind of like pixel stretching with photoshop (taking a one pixel row or column and pasting it over and over and over next to each other to create a cool effect). |
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your still cutting up isolated instances of a waveform and repeating it. thats what it is. only softsynths can mathmatically "calculate" it. which i suppose is the "true" form of it or whatever that is. but both cutting up and softsynth are essentially just isolating small chunks and repeating them. |
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yeah, exactly spooky luke. goot analogy |
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goot meaning good of course |
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Also, Fruity Loops 3 comes with a nifty tool for automatic, more configurable granular synthesis. This can be used for lots of stuff--you can sorta make a complex beat out of just a kick sample if you work at it... Experimenting with the floops version will give a bit of knowledge, but it's hard to explain. |
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Thanks, man! :D |
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yeah. fruity rocks it. im really looking foward to the fruity loops studio |
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you stretch out very little fragment of sound yes, and you play them in a loop. The aggregation of the little chunks will have a different 'texture' compared to the original sample - by playing with parameters such as the granule offset, length or density you can interactively change the texture of the output. I think that granular synthesis has b een used by ae in the track CAP IV to create this 'meteor rain' ( I'm not 100% sure but quite ). check buzz for software granular synths |
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Fuck everybody replied before me. check buzz also it's free. |
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granular synthesis has been used by every single idm artist on the planet whether they realized it or not |
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so i was right? |
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YES thank you for playing prize it out back |
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granular synthesis stretches the wave into grains using a saw wave. its a type of synthesis that is constantly sampling.... it sounds great, but can be dificult to control sometimes.... |
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it meaning is of course |
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just granu shit in a wave editing program freehand. now thats control. takes awhile tho |
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thats what i do... sometimes i stretch out little tiny bits of songs on mixes so that the beats match up exactly |
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"granular synthesis has been used by every single idm artist on the planet whether they realized it or not" how do you figure that then? |
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you know any other programs than the fuity granulizer for something like this ? seriously it's the only thing why i still use floops. or has anyone even managed to get the granulizer aut of fuity ? |
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Ae sometimes use ring modulation to get that resonant metallic sound on their drums. |
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come on... |
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Problem with these granular sythesisers in my experience is that they ultimately don't give one ultimate control and things can go out of time pretty quickly as a result. The best way to do anything more or less is to do it manually no vst instrument/effect is gonna just make a decent track for you on its own. |
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i don't think so. used granulab. it is very easy to hang it up, cause a granulizer makes everything after a short time. but i think the floops granulizer rocks. |
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Reaktor 3 ... |
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Try to find the beta version of Audiomulch at Hitsquad.com There's a granulator effect on that. I use it a fair bit and it's really easy to get some cool beats going with it. |
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more ? |
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Thanks to all who are trying to demystify this for me... I'm still a bit baffled but whatever, I think I'll try to do the repeat pasting thing in an audio editor as some suggested. |
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The repeat pasting thing isn't actually 'granular synthesis' as it is usually known. Granular synthesis is anything which uses 'granules'. A granule is a tiny segment of sound, small enough that the timbre is perceptually constant across its length. Anything which uses this is granular synthesis... "Microsound", a book by Curtis Roads has lots more on granules and granular synthesis. |
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curtis roads is god :) |
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