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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-18 04:18 [#00559445]
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lately i can't get enough of Cap.IV so what's your opinion on these three individual tracks? i'd say:
Gantz Graf: Great track, liked it even more after i saw the video, that helped me comprehend the structure of the track
Dial: Weakest of the three, kinda boring after a while
Cap.IV: Best track on this EP! I put this one at the end of an IDM compilation, the beats/percussion at the end really push it to a climax
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-02-18 04:21 [#00559446]
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I only really fell in love with track 3.... The first two havent grown on me. Yeah near the end of that track, your mind is dizzy.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-02-18 04:51 [#00559474]
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gantz graf is a wonderful track. it's very short, but it is like telling a long history. after listening to it you think: wow, that was about 6 minutes long ! awesome track. i even like it so much that i mislike the video :)
cap. IV : hm couldn't get into so much.
dial : this is a wonderful track. there are some really cool effects in it. they are described in an older topic called " shepard tones " try it out
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-18 04:53 [#00559475]
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try it out
ok, if you'll try capIV out again :) deal? :P
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-02-18 04:54 [#00559477]
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the video really did help me understand the track - it grows on you
though it will take a while before it'll get a classic status imo..
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-02-18 04:58 [#00559479]
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right now i listen to it.
hm, i have to say that i listen to the whole thing the first time...
hey, i like it ...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-18 05:05 [#00559485]
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haha good to hear :) i can't listen to Dial right now, i'm at work
i could download it here, but i don't think my colleagues would appreciate it very much :D
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:07 [#00559489]
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Gantz Graf is superb in my view. I really admire how accesible they can make something so unlistenable. Track 3 and 2 are my favorites. I always listen to them like they're one track tho...
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:09 [#00559493]
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Co-existence: going for the Aphex Twin laptop set in Bergen, yes?
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:10 [#00559497]
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Definitely! And you?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:13 [#00559505]
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Blir Oslo på meg. Blir fett!
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:20 [#00559512]
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Ja det blir dødsfett! Og så får vi jo med oss Merzbow også, eller Satans Tornado som han kaller seg denne gangen.. Har du sett han live før?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:23 [#00559516]
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Har ikke sett noen av dem live, så dette blir litt av en opplevelse. Kjipt av Blæst her i Trondheim har blit så udugelige. De hadde jo samarbeid med Blå og Agora før, men nå er klubblivet labert her i byen.
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:26 [#00559521]
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Ja, det er kjipt at Club Elekra la inn årene... Vi merker det godt her i Bergen også, men her er det jo så mange klubber så jeg kan ikke tenke meg at det er så ille som i Trondheim..
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:27 [#00559522]
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Det skulle være Club Elektra...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-18 05:32 [#00559529]
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woowoowoow!!!
what's all this norweigan language here?! this is a thread 'bout gantz graf dudes :)
focusss :P
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-02-18 05:33 [#00559532]
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i recognized some merzbow!
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:38 [#00559542]
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Sorry about that... we are too excited to speak english; Aphex is coming!!!
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:39 [#00559543]
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Yes, Merzbow is coming to Norway too, as Satans Tornado!
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-18 05:41 [#00559545]
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Satanstornade? that's Masami Akita (Merzbow) and Russel Haswell right?
i've got that Warp666, like it more than Merzbow (solo) stuff
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-02-18 05:44 [#00559548]
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Havent heard that one yet. How does it differ from his solo stuff? More beats?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-18 05:46 [#00559551]
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well although i haven't heard that much merzbow, i'd say it's a bit more accesible maybe, still noise, less chaotic maybe
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-18 05:47 [#00559552]
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'still noise' should've been: still noise
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-02-18 09:08 [#00559927]
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i love this noisey ep !!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-18 11:12 [#00560103]
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gantz graf was utterly noise/industrial until i saw the video, now it's like a harmonic masterpeice.
vivid imagry + time = = win
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-02-18 11:14 [#00560112]
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its a win win situation with the cd + dvd
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-18 11:24 [#00560136]
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track 3, favorite track 1, very good track 2, WEAK... there's nothing i like abou tit, nothing stands out.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-18 12:05 [#00560170]
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gantz graf is a fucking genius work of sound
i cannot even describe it to people whom i want to play it for
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-02-18 16:28 [#00560501]
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I like the video with the track, but the track alone I thought was shit.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-02-18 16:58 [#00560540]
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gantz graf is a great listen, never seen the video but still like the song alot.
dial - ties with gantz graf as the best song on the ep cap.iv is OK
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cx
from Norway on 2003-02-18 18:05 [#00560565]
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i like this shit too. i like all of it, but i don't understand why so few of you like dial.
it's in short, a great mindfuck if you listen to it at high volume and listen to it through without forwarding.
Also, im norwegian and im also going to see richard in oslo. i don't like merzbow though.
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-18 18:24 [#00560570]
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In order of preference:
CAP I.V. sounds like a recording taken from a lost space station to me. Some kind of intelligent form is singing or crying at the beginning. As the track builds, we can hear a meteorite rain bouncing on the cockpit and I can imagine outside the infinity of the expanding universe.
Gantz graf is more abstract - I see that more like a musical evocation of a quantum computer. Information qbits merging and splitting, non-linear parallel operations trigerring sounds.
Dial is the weakest song IMO - I don't know why but it reminds me a Prodigy song...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-18 19:01 [#00560588]
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i think you have to have a very strong visual imagination to able to listen to the likes of the album in the first place
but dial is great. the funkiest thing ive heard since R.D's lipswitch
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-02-18 19:02 [#00560590]
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i was blown away by cap. iv when i heard it for the first time
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-18 19:03 [#00560591]
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iron lung!
you're brian fellows!
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-02-18 19:03 [#00560592]
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i didn't care much for dial at first, but it's got one hell of a groove
gantz graf is always nice with the video
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-02-18 19:04 [#00560593]
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hehehe
I'M GONNA SHOOT THAT PARROT'S EYES OUT WITH MY BEEBEE GUN!
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-18 19:06 [#00560594]
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Don Pachi eatin' yogurt STAB YOUR FUCKING LEATHER COAT
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-18 19:11 [#00560597]
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It's an active process - that doesn't work when I'm trying let my brain do the job for me. In the other hand I'm not able to actually describe with words the different images I'm playing with - sometimes they are only partial or multiple.
For cap iv for example I started to see little dots fading away, creating clusters and stuffs - then as I imagined that it was meteorites they took the form of small irregular balls and started to bounce on a window. Behind the window that you (me) listening to the track.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-18 19:11 [#00560598]
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oh shit CAP4 IS CRAZY SHIT
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-18 19:15 [#00560602]
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I also imagine BBB as being the sound of the silver balls of the silver surfer bouncing together.
Richard devine does it too for me: kepter = battle field in 5003 on jupiter
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-18 19:21 [#00560605]
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yep richard devine is good at that shit too
people who are imaginative like you+me should make videos
;D
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-18 19:22 [#00560606]
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hey what was with the checkyslovakian i just experienced scrolling down this page
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-02-18 19:43 [#00560615]
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dial is maniacal, like a lumbering runaway freight train with the power of a tornado, starting to crumble from it's own momentum and shooting off showers of electrified pieces of itself, yet still maintaining a constant speed and structural stability, never slowing, like a machine posessed. it almost falters in the first half of the song, but by the second half it finds its rhythm and maintains it. a driving, MANIACAL ASS rhythm made up of the beat and the constant shepards tone stabs! i love it
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-18 19:53 [#00560619]
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let's create a thread called *** best verbal explanation of an autechre song ***
Is bombastic the correct term ?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-18 20:07 [#00560626]
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gantz graf is to me the most exciting ae track. maybe my fav.
cap iv is pretty nice, followed by dial. i think i need to listen to these more though.
*sets up the ep in a playlist*
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-18 20:12 [#00560629]
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01: Can't stand it; insufferable noise that isn't even the sort of noise fans of industrial music can dig. It's just absolute noise for the sake of noise. It's distortion just to say, "it's distorted." It's purposeless, uninspired sampling with sequencing that, despite being completley random, is very repetitive sounding.
02: Another bunch of crap. The ten note melody that doesn't change is irritating, the fast tempo clicking is predictable, and the whole song sounds like different instruments playing different songs. nothing goes together or contrasts enough--it's in a grey area.
03: Cap. IV despite being my favorite, is completely predictable. It starts out all right then is sped up with some beats added, subtracted, replaced, at a few points. It's long, it's very conventional (for Autechre) and it's just a very dissappointing departure from the control exhibited on records like Confield and even EP7.
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-18 20:14 [#00560635]
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something you play once then never feel like playing again.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-18 20:18 [#00560646]
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01 is not noise at all. listen and it's so obviously not like "hey sean, twist that distortion knob." keep in mind i thought tri rep was noise for the sake of noise the first time i heard it. i think gg is just wonderful.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-18 20:20 [#00560649]
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and it's only repetative in the sense that a jimihendrix guitar solo is repetative. "he's still doing the guitar thing!" not at all random either. just listen! it's obviously a bit of a journey, whether you enjoy it or not.
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