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what Bush administration is planning will make it come to that..the WWIII is not gonna be as you or I or anyone pictures it...by trying to polarize the world..they fanning more more cauldrons of discontent all over the world...WWIII is a world rife with terrorism... Bali incident..had nothing to do with AlQaeda and is a prime example of the fact..That War on Terrorism..is only sowing more seeds for breeding more terrorism... |
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al-qaeda claimed responsibilty for the bali nightclub |
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well the I saw the bomber in court saying that he wasnt a member of Al Qaeda..and Austrialian defence specialists agreeing.. |
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tolstoyed: under a democracy USA has already destroyed two towns with massive destruction weapons Iraq must not have those weapons, but neither any (ANY) other country |
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It does prove something, it proves Saddam has killed lots of his people since the mid-80s. The post I was replying to said he hadn't. |
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of course sadam is a danger... but we cannot and must not destroy a country for that and again: usa governors have also killed lots of people since 1945 |
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The dossier contained good content provided by SIS, however this got overlooked because some monkey in Downing Street decided that it need some 'filler' from pages 6 to 16 so stuck in the plagiarised material. I dare say SIS were none too impressed ;) |
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yes there's no denying his genocidal tendencies.. but worse offenders are lving out their lives in luxury as guesrts of the State in th US..Miami to be precise.. and Nazi's?...well all the scientists went on to get employed in the US nuclear weapons programs and NASA.. all the psychiatrists created the framework of the US and most of the Western worlds..mental health programs.. so Saddam..is not an exceptional case.. |
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Saddam and his reigime must be removed from power... |
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i totally agree with that, i'd like to see if there were no weapons but it is surely more dangerous if the lunatic dictator like sadadm have access to those weapons than some democratic country all i was trying to say ... |
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even SIS admits that their intelligence in the country is not of the quality they would like for it to be.. |
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yes |
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I'm sure every intelligence agency in the world could say that about every country in the world. |
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understood my friend |
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A Democratic Country like..say the US?... Bush got in on rigged ballots.. Peaceful protests are quashed forcibly and relentlessly..(Seattle anyone?).. Homeland Defence is ensuring that absloutely no one's privacy is safe... 1000's of legal immigrants were held without any legal proceedings for months.. 50,000 US Iraqi's are due to be pulled in for questioning and kept tabs on... Democracy? I beg to differ.. |
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anyway I just wanted to know if you posters of the board are going to any of those demonstrations |
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Bad Intelligence = "Dumb" Smart Weapons remember the Chinese Embassy... |
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i agree on that too, i dislike current american policy alot but really you can't equalise the danger threatening from iraq or US here's another point of view: where would you prefer to live US or iraq? i personally would pick iraq, but only because of the scennery :) and i would never want to live in US... |
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I have lived in the US..lovely people..but the idea that absolutely everything that I did..from applying to Universities to buying toilet paper..was all getting logged under a single set of digits..(Social Security Number)..was miighty creepy and unsettling... |
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Well, I didn't think you would be choosing Iraq for it's standard of living, healthcare, educational opportunities, commitment to freedom of expression or human rights record ;) Mind you, I can't say vast expanses of sand really appeal to me :P |
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I think you can sleep safely at night that nobody really cares about your toilet paper buying habits ;) |
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hmm, that about standard and health care, im not so sure about... i guess if you have money thats taken care of... |
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but they know what books I check out of the library(let's say the Anarchist Cookbook)..what videos I am watching....what I am buying from the Pharmacy or the Hardware Shop... and of late things like that can get you in trouble..especially if your origins are from..ahem...Afghanistan.. |
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Health Care and Education was State funded and of prime quality in Iraq pre Gulf War..better then what most Americans get I believe...same is true of most of the wealthier more stable Arab countires..Saudi Arabia..UAE etc etc.. |
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thats why world needs people like aki kaurismaki when he was invited to some festival in US, he refused to go, because some director from iran was invited as well, and they didn't allow him to enter US so aki was like: ok, im not going, im getting the idea im not wanted neither, and he stayed in finland (and get drunk probably hehehe) |
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Perhaps it can get you looked at a little closer, it doesn't get you shot. |
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if you're lucky enough did you see bowling for columbine? :) |
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read my mind mate:p |
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About Saddam Hussein: *bangs table with fist* Kill tha fool! |
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in holland the major left wing party was opposed to the demonstrastion in amsterdam earlier today. unbelievable. they want to join the government so badly they'll make insane compromises :( now i know i'll never vote for them |
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do you have to use a social security number to buy something in the US?? |
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well you need a Social Security number to do anything..Bank Accounts..Drivers lisence...Rentals..and you need two forms of ID to buy anything if not paying cash |
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oh, not quite as bad as i was imagining, so you can still pay in cash anonamously |
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i was there. -12C though but it was worth it. i had a cardboard thingy with 'bush is sauron'-text, and then i gave it to one little boy who liked it :) he also added 'blair is saruman' to it |
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hmm..actually it is as bad...cash transactions in general are actually frowned upon..millions of reasons are given to encourage checking and electronic transactions..mugging is often cited by banks etc when you open accounts plus you need a credit card for renting cars, checking into hotels etc.. |
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there should be a rule; that whoever wants war must send their children, and themselves. . . . |
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No, seriously, your choice of video rental isn't going to get you shot. Maybe an exception if there's some gun wielding lunatic in the store at the time who objects to Star Trek: Generations or whatever... ;) |
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im sure it's not... but i think it's not all that great living in states neither |
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just got back from the Amsterdam demonstration, missed it though, we where there to see the Police lining up ready for the end procession, not much there though apart from LOTS AND LOTS of POLICE, theres sheer propoganda going on around the world now its a very cynical place. |
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if Iraq haven't dissarmed for 12 years i don't really have any sympathy for them. They could have dissarmed years ago and avoided all this. |
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fuck there's one in chicago right now and me and my friends were supposed to go. i just woke up. |
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I don't think that a country in the middle east without weapons would last very long... |
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South Africa managed to dissarm without too much trouble, and it didn't take 12 years |
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I just came from the demonstration: 2 million people (the organiser numbers) 600.000 people (the goverment numbers) so I dont really know how much we were, but I dont care, we were a lot and I am happy that so many people wanted to say NO to war |
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there were apperantly 3 million in rome and another 2 million in london but berlusconi and blair have different opinions... |
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its funny how numbers change depending on the source but well: the average between 600000 and 2 million is: 1300000 and it is quite a lot (out of 4 million total in madrid) |
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yeah, well governament is the one we trust... btw, im not sure how many people atended here, but surely not as many as in madrid, since the whole country has a little less than 2 million citizens :) |
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yeah, well governament is the one we trust... I am not sure |
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We were about 13 000 who demonstrated here in Gothenburg, Sweden... Boycott US products! said the crowd, and I tried to hide with my Levis 680 jeans, Carhartt hood parka and steve reich-music in my md.... oh, things are complicated... ; ) (and I?m writing this on an apple computer - developed & designed in Cupertino, California, USA...) |
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USA is a nice country... the problem is with the governors spain´s goverment is also shit |
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