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deelan
from Vicenza (Italy) on 2003-02-12 08:35 [#00552140]
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arrggggh, just bought Massive Attack "100th Window"and it's copy protected.
when inserted in the pc cd reader a stupid player similar to winamp pops up and play the CD. fine? no. i want to use winamp, cause the player sometimes skips when my pc is doing something else, winamp does not. what do u guys use to rip a copy protected cd?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-12 08:38 [#00552142]
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a mac :P
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-02-12 08:40 [#00552146]
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Bollocks....Theres gotta be a crack somewhere...Ill bet someone out here might know how...
...I would think?...
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magiker
from Östersund (Sweden) on 2003-02-12 08:40 [#00552147]
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You can rip it using analog mode, from an external CD-player or your soundcards out to your soundcards in port.
That is why copy protection never will work. If you can hear the CD, you can rip it.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-12 08:41 [#00552149]
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it was wierd on mine... after i got the cddb info, the disc disapeared from the computer. i just ejected it and put it back, and ripped it good.
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deelan
from Vicenza (Italy) on 2003-02-12 08:58 [#00552175]
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mmmm. i just grabbed the first track with audiograbber.
what does that "copy control" sticker is actually supposed to do? introduce noise on the digital -ripped file??? i'm listening to the ripped "future proof" and i'm hearing it clear and loud.
maybe the other tracks will be fucked up.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-02-12 09:13 [#00552182]
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it does nothing
its just some lame thing to scare ppl
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deelan
from Vicenza (Italy) on 2003-02-12 09:18 [#00552190]
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infact it scared me, for about 5 minutes, but after roy message i just run my trusty audiograbber that did the job.
now i'm encoding the whole thing to OGG files.
thanks for the support guys.
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galaga67
from FIRENZE (Italy) on 2004-01-20 17:48 [#01042160]
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Messaggio per deelan: solo ora sto imparando ad usare audiograbber, ma a me non funziona: puoi dirmi che settaggio va impostato premettendo che nonostante abbia un ASPI manager aggiornato per xp mi dà sempre ERRORE ASPI e dando l'analogico non viene letto nulla? Scusa il disturbo: ho scritto a te perchè sei italiano ed io mastico poco l'inglese!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-01-20 17:52 [#01042166]
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I can play copy-protected CDs in Winamp without any problem. How silly.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-20 17:53 [#01042168]
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SPEAK ENGLISH MOTHER FUCKER
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 17:54 [#01042170]
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non ce audiograbber con istruzioni in italiano? :)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-20 17:55 [#01042172]
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RIGHT ON ROYGBIVCORE
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-01-20 17:56 [#01042174]
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Vorrei avere sesso con voi e una torta.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 17:57 [#01042177]
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anche me...anche me.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-20 17:58 [#01042178]
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you mean "the common tongue" or "man-speak"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 17:58 [#01042179]
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scusi...anch'io :)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-01-20 18:18 [#01042209]
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get a stereo...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-20 18:20 [#01042215]
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is 100th window even WORTH ripping/owning/hearing?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 18:21 [#01042218]
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one of best albums last year.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-20 18:23 [#01042221]
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dude fuckin sinead o'conner was on it
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-20 18:24 [#01042222]
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really? i never heard the whole thing - but i wasnt very impressed. not sure why but i've felt that massive attack have lost that vitality that first drew me to their music.
maybe i'll have to get hold of a copy of 100th window & concentrate when i listen to it..?
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2004-01-20 18:24 [#01042223]
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What is it with people and MP3s?... Why listen to a degraded MP3 file on shitty PC speakers when you can just listen to the real CD on a real CD player?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-20 18:27 [#01042229]
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well - i cant speak for everyone.. but i use mp3s for practicality.
still buy all my music on cd. osmetimes vinyl. but i dont want to be dragging my albums to & fro with me.
itll damage the cds & their cases. so i rip all the best stuff, archive it on cds & then i can pick & choose what to fill the harddrive of my laptop with when im away from home.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 18:28 [#01042231]
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well, lot of people were unimpressed with it, but it was definitely one of my favourite albums last year. i liked it even more as mezzanine (and this one is brilliant), it's better as a whole, there's only one song that i can't get into, everything else is pretty much top notch.
but i suggest you get the mp3's first and see for you self. as i said, i got this feeling that there are more of those people who didn't like it to those who did.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-20 18:28 [#01042232]
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when im at home, of course, i listen to cds.
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2004-01-20 18:30 [#01042237]
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Yeah that makes sense acrid milk hall, its just that it seems a lot of people who don't even listen to thier music outside of home put it on their pc for the hell of it.
By the way, how do you make a follow up?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 18:32 [#01042241]
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i made a follow up to your post above by clicking [#01042237]
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-20 18:34 [#01042243]
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thanks for your analysis. i did like mezzanine - but found it less versatile than the 1st two lps.
it had an overall tone/emotion - not the kind of record you can stick on when youre in any kind of mood & interpret differently every time. (in my opinion anyway)
what i head of 100th window sounded even more in that mould. their music seemed to lose a certain quality that i cant quite define as mushroom became less & less involved & then finally left.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-20 18:38 [#01042247]
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i have a promo copy i got for five bucks about a month before it came out
it was ok i guess
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 18:38 [#01042250]
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hmm, if you like protection and blue lines, and you liked mezzanine less, you sure will like 100th window even less :)
i loved some tunes from both, protection and bluse lines, but i perefer their newer stuff. you should check it anyway tho, sidnead is really awesome.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-20 18:49 [#01042261]
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im sure a friend of mine will have a copy i can listen to. but youre probably right about why i liked it less. to be honest - i rarely listen to either blue lines or protection these days. but i have had them a while + occasionally i get a real taste for them again.
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optimus prime
on 2004-01-20 18:57 [#01042264]
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100th window is almost a 3d solo record, and i'm one of the few who thinks of it as massive attack's best.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 19:00 [#01042265]
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hua, thats two of us :)
there were some rumours about them doing an album with tom waits...any news on that?
i'd love to see that one day.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-20 19:08 [#01042271]
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read a book by phil johnson a few years ago about the "bristol sound".. quite a lot of it is dedicated to massive (obviously)
3d was always a lyricist first & foremost. something he did very well on the 1st couple of Lps.. but i find his producing style a bit overbearing.. lacking in subtlety & refinement.
just strikes me as a bit obvious. which is a shame. because when mushroom left & massive decided to take a new direction i was pretty keen on hearing how they would sound without his heavy hiphop influence.
grant marshal was always a dub man & that could have played off well against 3ds punk roots.
but i find some of what ive heard treads dangerously close to dirge. it seemed a bit over-heavy for the sake of it.
theres a way of using rough sounds & distorted guitars etc to good effect.
but - i'll def check out 100th window again & see what i think a year or so on.
in my opinion, when i heard 3ds remix of unkles rabbit in your headlights, it didnt bode too well for his approach to production.
he's produced some good grafitti tho, in his youth
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 19:16 [#01042282]
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well, apperantly 3d is the most handy in studio, he knows what he wants to produce and how to do it - according to daddy g anyway. i'd be happy just to hear daddy g do more vocals :)
i saw them live last year and his voice is even more impressive live then on records.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-21 09:49 [#01042777]
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saw them live on the mezzanine tour 1998, about a month before mushroom left. they were really good. just a shame that th venue was a huge arena. guess thats the downside of seeing a popular act live - you lose the intimacy of small gigs.
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cyanescens
from Thailand on 2004-01-21 10:09 [#01042797]
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return it to the store and download it instead.. that's what I did when it didn't play in my cd players (neither on my stereo or on my pc).
that copy protection stuff is whack.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-21 10:12 [#01042800]
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creative player lets me rip supposedly rip-proof CDs such as thirteenth step
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uzim
on 2004-01-21 10:42 [#01042836]
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i wanted to buy 100th Window, Hail To The Thief (and maybe Thirteenth Step but i haven't heard it)... but i didn't buy them because of copy-protection.
too bad, because they're both great albums =/
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uzim
on 2004-01-21 10:51 [#01042846]
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1. i only have two portable cd players and i'm not sure they could play it without problems...
2. i definitely don't want to pay money for something which has voluntary bugs on it, and those bugs having been put because of the fucking RIAA, to prevent me from doing what i want with it!! - i know that only one person boycotting it will make as much difference as an acarian's wee wee in a giant swimming pool, but... questione di principio.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-01-21 10:55 [#01042853]
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seriously, doesn't anyone remember when they first started cpoy-protecting cds... there was a very simple solution, like you hold down a single key right as you start or something...
100th window sounded meh... mezzanine was the shit, please come back, daddy g
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-21 11:32 [#01042910]
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daddy g hasnt left. it was mushroom who quit. taking with him (what i felt) was the elements that helped give massive such a special sound.
i wouldnt go so far as to say mezanine is shit.. it must have been years since i listened to it though : partly because it is such a sombre record - i have to REALLY be in the mood to listen to it from beginning to end. where bluelines&protection are a more versatile listening experience.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-01-21 21:47 [#01043564]
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no, not shit... THE shit... Mezzanine is my favourite Massive Attack album by miles and miles
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Desdemona
from Lake Mendota on 2004-01-21 22:06 [#01043574]
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That would be the shift key - it disables autorun. You can also disable it in the settings.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-01-21 22:10 [#01043578]
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thank you... somebody remembers...
*walks upstairs to grab the library copy of hail to the thief*
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-22 03:40 [#01043777]
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wasn't mushroom supposed to releases something a while ago? i was really looking forward to that, but then all i got to hear is that he was mostly djing, and then that silly thing he did and appearntly went to jail for...
but yeah, he definitely added lot of hip hop to their music, shame he left.
deadeight - it's just a little weird you dislike 100th window and think of mezzanine that much, both albums are quite different, that's true, but some tunes are very mucg alike.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-22 08:08 [#01044005]
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saw mushroom dj @ the gatecrasher festival 2000 - in the metalheads tent..
what did he go to jail for?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-22 09:16 [#01044041]
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apperantly he attacked someone with a fork (haha silly but true) if i remember right.
what kind of stuff was he playing at that gig?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-22 09:38 [#01044053]
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hahaha - a fork..
i reckon a spoon would have been funnier..
he played loads of oldschool hiphop mainly. a bit of dub. generally more upbeat than massive attack's music. the kind of records that they sampled on blue lines/protection.
he was on for a lot longer than anticipated i think - though i felt a bit sorry for him.. as nearly all the arenas emptied out in the evening for the england v germany football match that was on that day (largest collection of people watching the match anywhere in europe apparently) - huge screen in the middle of a field. so most people kind of ignored the music for 90mins.
james lavelle was on after mushroom i think. mushroom had had to play a bit longer than anticipated because the traffic around the site was so bad, lavelle had had to get out of his car & walk for 2hours to get there with all his records.
after lavelle, coldcut were on doing a decks & laptop set.
then goldie (who seemed very happy england had won the football) & grooverider to finish until 6am.
mushrooms set was a good way to warm up the evening though.
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