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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-11 07:43 [#00550708]
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Anyone heard of the anti-war charity "NION" (not in our name)?
Surely being anti-war- rather than pro-aid/relief constitutes a political agenda? Especially when one considers this charity's links to communism...
If they can stop Amnesty International from being a full on charity by classing it as political, I'm sure NION should be too.
Opinions?
(I'm not asking about your view on the war, just whether being anti-war is a valid charity or is it a political ideal...)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-11 07:45 [#00550713]
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Anti-war isn't per se a political stance.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-11 07:46 [#00550714]
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You just got the Ninja Tune email too?
I assume its an American charity as the organisation here is called the Stop the War Coalition and doesn't have charity status.
But morally speaking, there is nothing wrong with this. It is fighting to prevent genocide.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-02-11 07:46 [#00550715]
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its just political
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-11 07:46 [#00550716]
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people linked Bob Dylan and the Beatles to charity, we still gave them lots of money :-)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-02-11 07:47 [#00550717]
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wow, big expresions marlowe, per sa, very impressed
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-11 07:47 [#00550718]
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whoops, i meant ".....to communism"!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-11 07:48 [#00550721]
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No, you're right. One could say they were against poverty. Is that political? If so, then Oxfam is political.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-11 07:48 [#00550722]
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"big" thad? A three-letter word and a two-letter word? The US education system is worse than I thought ;)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-11 07:49 [#00550725]
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Depends how much certain people in power wanted to distort meanings I guess...if they want something they can either disguise it, or redefine it.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-02-11 07:51 [#00550729]
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It's a war aginst war
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-11 07:51 [#00550730]
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Okay, do you agree with amnesty no longer being recognised as a "proper" charity?
Jonesy: Yes I did. I'm tempted to go to see Tobin at the Blue Mountain, but I've been gigging too much recently...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-11 07:53 [#00550731]
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What were the criteria that resulted in the stripping of their charity status Ceri? I've no idea :)
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-11 07:56 [#00550742]
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its a war on war, its a war on war... there's a war on you're gonna lose you have to lose you have to learn how to die
you have to die you have to die you have to learn how to die if you wanna wanna be alive!
great song by Wilco :D
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-11 07:57 [#00550746]
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There is a war, between those who say there is a war, and those who say there is none.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-11 07:58 [#00550747]
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I'd love it if a charity like this could bring about peace. it's absolutely hopeless though. bush is gonna get his way in the end.. you'll see
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-11 07:58 [#00550748]
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I can't remember the exact reasons, but it was along the lines of, "Their primary goal is to get human rights recognised. Human rights are a set of political ideals. Ergo Amnesty are a political organisation and not a charity."
They still get some of the breaks charities do, just not all of them.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-11 08:04 [#00550762]
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An example of people in power redefining words and ideas then eh? Sheesh, those motherfuckers.... to quote Kenneth Williams "when will it end?"
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-02-11 08:06 [#00550766]
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war..HUH.......what is it good for?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-11 08:06 [#00550768]
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They've gotta do something or those leftists would get into power and we'd never have any wars and then we'd starve because the economy would fail :P
Fun Fact: Suicide rates decrease rapidly in times of war (and that's in relation to comparative population size, not just straight comparisons!)...
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-11 08:08 [#00550771]
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definitions of words over morality!
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