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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-09 19:20 [#00548188]
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so, um ok... i sent warp 2 emails over the course of 1 month asking about the existance of the group plone. i have gotten 0 response. so hopefully someone on here can fulfill my querry. i thought 'for beginner piano' was an AWESOME album! so where'd they go? are they no more? are they in different groups? solo artists? any information anyone has would be GREATLY appreciated... prehaps joyrex or phob have heard something?
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-02-09 19:25 [#00548191]
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Allegedly one of the members died, and they sent a demo of their new album to warp, but warp didnt like it, so they signed beans and got rid of plone. Mike from µ heard the demo, maybe he can tell us what its like?
They have solo projects going on yes, but I forgot the frigin names... :(
I will look around and see if I cant find out more info..
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-09 19:34 [#00548209]
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that is so sad... what the heck is warp's stinkin' problem??? sometimes i think rdj is right about warp. im sure the promo sounded great.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-09 19:36 [#00548215]
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i loved that plone album.. if anyone gets ahold of the demo for the rejected album lemme know :)
never heard about one of them dying.. could be true tho
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-09 19:37 [#00548216]
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it's kind of depressing, when you think about how contrastingly beautiful and happy and childlike their music is.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-09 19:48 [#00548221]
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i hope they dont disappear forever, i will miss them
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-09 19:52 [#00548229]
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Plone was discussed a few months ago on the Mu phorum..
"'I know Plone (well OK I play football occasionally with one of them) and can tell you that they wrote and delivered their second lp to Warp. Since the death of Rob Mitchell, Warp have gone "back to basics" and found the Plone second lp "too whimsical" and dropped them. Rumour is they would have dropped Broadcast too for similar reasons given half a chance but have spent too much on them to cut their losses. Plone I believe are pretty bummed about it and have shelved the lp indefinitely/permanently and are label-less currently. Mike in Mono (aka Mike Johnston) has released a solo 7" on Brummie label "Half Eaten" that's well worth checking out, but if you're waiting for their second lp and you're not a label owner, you could be waiting some time."
Mike P. did indeed hear the demo and had this to say:
"I like some of the new plone album, but not enough - it really was a bit 70s tales of the unexpected for me. Half the tracks are to my taste, but I figure they'd want someone who liked all of them."
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-09 19:55 [#00548233]
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"too whimsical"? MAN, thats what i really loved about the first album.... it sounds like the soundtrack to a rugrats movie! hahaha
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-09 19:56 [#00548236]
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Shitfuck hatefuck deathfuck! Too whimsical? Plone is all about whimsy!
I'm especially hot to hear it after that "70s tales of the unexpected" comment. The best stuff on Beginner Piano had a 70s TV theme feel to it.
What the fuck does "back to basics" mean - predictable formula? Fuck that shitfucked fuckshit.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-09 19:59 [#00548238]
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And thanks to qrter for the info - I don't mean to shoot the messenger (or swear at him) here. :-)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-09 20:00 [#00548240]
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I know.. :)
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-09 20:00 [#00548241]
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HAM TAR O! :D Tikki tikki tikki when you're in a jam! bada bada bada! remember i'm your ham! tra la la la la la da da da da da HAMTARO!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-09 20:00 [#00548243]
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yeah, warp has me a little pissed. if its not autechre or hip hop, they dont wanna even bother with it. COME ON! what about plone? what about chris clark? what about all the tons of UNSIGNED artists who are 10 times better than nightmares on wax or beans?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-09 20:03 [#00548249]
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a new Chris Clark is coming out in the spring.
again, from the Mu phorum, this time from Tom, one of the warpmart guys.. :)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-09 20:07 [#00548254]
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I've never seen that show.
It just occurred to me that if I put my avatar sideways over a flame he'd look like he was turning on a spit.
Should I put a spike thru him vertically? It would be like hampster gyros meat.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-09 20:14 [#00548258]
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fleet, is your revolving hamster from Emotion Erics hamster dance..?
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-09 20:34 [#00548269]
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I think you should watch it. I love Hamtaro. I love hamsters. I have pet hamsters named after hamsters on the hamtaro show. It's a good show for people who like hamster or have hamsters. I'd dare say it's "ham-tiki-tastic!" :D
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-09 20:43 [#00548277]
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I dont think youre fooling anyone here, slick. ;)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-09 20:56 [#00548283]
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Hamsterdance AND emotion eric?
I didn't know they could crossbreed. I guess their offspring will be infertile.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-02-09 20:59 [#00548288]
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i never thought plone really fit on the warp roster, their sound is too different. but that doesnt mean it's no good, dont get me wrong.
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electro
from detroit on 2003-02-09 21:34 [#00548311]
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night mares on wax is on warp! plone fits well!
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-02-09 22:53 [#00548364]
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meaning you consider plone and now to have the same sound?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-09 22:56 [#00548367]
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no, what i said was i think that warp spends too much time on groups like nightmares on wax and prefuse and all that, instead of really good under-rated artists like chris clark, max tundra (man they effed that up), and plone.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-02-09 23:10 [#00548378]
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i agree with that.
my reply was to electro (in case your reply was to me)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-10 00:42 [#00548445]
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hahahah ok ;)
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-10 01:56 [#00548491]
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yes another fan here..
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-02-10 01:59 [#00548495]
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BIG fan of plone here
I definatly am going to check out Mike in Mono
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nacmat
on 2003-06-11 16:09 [#00736889]
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what other releases apart from "for beginner piano"??
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-06-11 16:26 [#00736903]
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there's the plock ep, which was that track with two nonlp bsides, and on wurlitzer jukebox a 7" with "press a key" from the album and a nonlp bside called "electronic beauty parlor."
although i thought the album had too many weak tracks (or rather, ennio-morricone-esque tracks, the flavor of which i don't like), i love their unique, playful sound, especially tracks like "plock." i can't believe there isn't another label that would put out their new record. of course, i wonder how much of a part rob mitchell played in their signature sound.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-06-11 19:17 [#00737032]
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what the hell is "too whimsical" Is there a line or level of whimsy that is too much for warp records? if so how do you measure whimsy?
Warp records: your album is too whimsical.
Plone: ahh, well we actually turned down the whimsy a little from the original level.
Warp records: well it's still too whimsical, perhaps you could take the whimsey down a bit more and make it more strategic.
Plone: but strategy is not our bag. our music is more of a tribute to caprice.
Warp Records: capriciousness just doesn't sell. these techno dorks can not stand arbitrarity.
Plone: That's not even a word. we're out of here.
Warp Records: where are you going?
Plone: oh. somewhere, anywhere we'll see i guess.. it doesn't really matter. here, there, its all good.
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PigeonSt
from Detroit on 2003-06-11 19:53 [#00737080]
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I picked up "for beginner piano" the other day and I love it. It's a little reminiscent of Melodies from Mars.
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2003-06-11 23:38 [#00737260]
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rob mitchell was one of the warp founders, not member of plone. he had more eclectic approach than steve beckett. plone played recently live...i saw pictures on the net somewhere....i really like the album, and these are the sad news for me....i recommend that mike in mono ep , so kool
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mimi
on 2003-06-12 02:38 [#00737325]
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i hated plone when i heard them -- i really think warp, for being the big guys when it comes to idm labels should realize that there is better stuff out there than plone and two lone swordsman!
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2003-06-12 07:22 [#00737657]
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well...there's no much things better than 2ls
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-06-12 10:21 [#00737897]
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oops, i connected the "allegedly one of the members died" with the "since rob mitchell died" and not being familiar with the names mistakenly assumed that rob mitchell was the member who "allegedly died."
better is always relative, but if by "better," mimi, you meant "more marketable," then i'd have to agree.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-06-12 10:27 [#00737916]
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How DID he die?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-12 11:16 [#00737993]
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pfft... i think warp should get their head out of their arses and stop beating squarepusher, twin and ae into our minds as the musical messiahs. there ARE other groups JUST as good. well, maybe not as good as ae, but definitely just as good as 'pusher or boc.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-12 11:16 [#00737994]
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if warp is putting out nightmares on wax, beans, and broadcast, then DANGIT!!!!! where IS MY NEW PLONE ALBUM!!?!?!!?!?!?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-06-12 11:59 [#00738062]
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this thread makes me want to check out this band "plone".
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mimi
on 2003-06-12 12:08 [#00738083]
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ehh i don't really mean more marketable since people give warp a lot of trust when it comes to these things. warp really has the opportunity to put things into the spotlight. i just with they would up the quality of their selections. just my opinion however.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-12 18:45 [#00738617]
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i`m sorry. but that plone album was the worst 15 quid i spent in my life. labels drop bands. thats life
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-12 19:32 [#00738642]
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I shlike some tracks on for beginner piano.
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Loopz
from Brum Land on 2003-06-13 01:51 [#00738920]
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>>How DID he die?
The big C i believe
About a year ago i had to visit a house in my home town of Birmingham to dj on an internet radio station. As me and my mate walked down the road towards the house, my friend mentioned that the last time he walked this street someone asked if he was a member of plone. Weird!
Anyway we arrived at the house and knocked on the door. Who should answer the door - a member of plone!
anyway...
Plone were also very good live - saw them a few times. Im not too sure what they are doing now though
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