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I've got a grands worth of mastering software. I figured I might as well put it to good use. It'll be up on Soulseek soon as it's back online. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to give my username or not. If I am I will, if not it should still be obvious. Essentially what I did was eliminate as much tape hiss as possible while still retaining a good amount of the high end by dropping everything above 8200 khz during the noiser parts and 6500 khz durinng the quieter. I normalized sides A and B as individual pieces (i dwnld Draft 7.30 as two files A and B). I did my best guessing as to the start and end points of indiviual tracks. I believe I'm in the ballpark as I came up with ten tracks and the official album listing features ten tracks (wipes brow, I didn't have internet access when I was working on this and forgot to note how many tracks were on the album). I then automated the eq as noted above on each individual track and ultra-maximized the f*ck out of it. Did them all this way in this way then: bounced 'em to disk, burned them, ripped them and wholla here we are. Now instead of having to turn up your speakers to 11 to hear the album it should rock pretty nicely at 6, if you know what I'm saying. It definately loses some up the higher end intricacies when eliminating that pesky tape hiss, so you'll absolutely want to obtain the official release to hear all that good stuff. Hope everyone enjoys. |
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Rock on, man! :) |
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I never had any problems with Brisk's rip.. had normal volumes.. |
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i'm sure some are just fine. the only version i was successfully able to download came right from the tape and sounded terrible. real hissy, really quiet and only two tracks to boot. i was gonna tweak it for myself regardless, figured i might as well share. |
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I initially uploaded the sides A/B MP3's which were what I downloaded from newsnet (well, I added the ID tags, and also changed the filename, but it was basically the same). It wasn't perfect in that it did have the obligatory tape hiss, and it was slightly quieter than I would have liked. I went to work on the editing using Soundforge 6. I firstly merged the two MP3 files into the single .wav file, then increased the volume slightly (normal levels, and no clipping). I have the noise reduction filter (from the plugin suite) and reduced the hiss to none existant levels. I also applied the sharpen filter to gain more on the high frequencies. I then cut it up into the correct tracklisting. Obviously we don't have the correct times for each track yet, but i'm pretty sure I got it right (most tracks actually have a gap, with only 2 or 3 that are seemless). I've shared these files with quite a few people on soulseek now, and I also put the .wav's onto a CDR to listen to, preserving my original tape. I'd still be quite interested in hearing your files though, since i'm no professional masterer :> |
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re-mastering unrealeased albums and shit.. come on guys :( we should draw the line someplace.. |
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thanks for the info! |
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cygnus does have a pretty good point though. Darn i was all excited for a second then i had to think again. :o} |
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i think it's wrong |
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i kinda do too. I mean it's not even close to out and it's all over the place. And this is the thanks they get for tossing out a tape or two? |
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all right cygnus? agree with you there man!! |
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i wish it wasnt all over the net...coz it is now |
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it does take some excitement out of waiting for the album. |
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absolutely...and it pisses off the artists too...to some extent |
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it's a valid point if you have no intention of buying the album. seeing as i do, i've no problem with it. since i also have every autechre release that is available on vinyl and cd, i don't think they would have a problem with it either (they've earned my bucks) mastering wise, what i did wasn't that complicated. if i really wanted to do a professional job on it, i would need to spend hours with each track. i spent about two hours on the whole thing and most of that time was waiting for bounces and normalizes to process. basically, this is absolutely no substitute for the real thing and you all should buy the album if you like it. consequently, i just put it up on kazaa. |
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and mp3s are very low quality... you do not actually get the full quality until the cd is released. what herbwest is doing is very wrong. i am not passing judgements. i _personally_ think it is artistic theft. |
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what i dont understand is why they officially announce the release of an album more than 4 MONTHS EARLY!!!!! why not keep it on a low-profile and not distrubute promos in advance? but i still didnt give in to the temptation... |
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there are still many people who merely "collect" these albums i know it is a different case for people like me and you, but for the masses i do not think it should be availible for them to download. |
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i ll be buying the album too....but i do believe that untill its released its not really our property...then again i do think its important to be able to listen to an album before you buy it....and most shops in england for example dont have listening posts |
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as an artist myself, it doesn't piss me off. in this day and age with technology the way it is we HAVE to expect our work to be shared, remixed, remastered, chopped up and spit out. i would only have a problem if people were somehow making money off of it. also, i am not so presumptious as to assume every single person who downloaded my work would otherwise have bought it. that is ridiculous thinking Metallica. i understand that not everyone can afford to buy everything they want. i know i can't. i would rather someone hear it for free then not hear it at all. if you all really think it wrong, i can take it out of my soulseek folder. the server is down so no one has heard it. it just seems to me that if someone is going to download the album regardless, they may as well download a decent sounding one. consensus? |
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this is fascinating to me. it didn't dawn on me for a second that anyone would be bothered. very interesting. |
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i know wht you mean..in this day and age its just annoying when people DO make money out of it..a friend of mine sells quite a lot of records.hes quite poor, but could be living off all the bootlegs of his albums sold in south america alone. the metalica attitude sucks i agree with you on that one.. and as an artist myself( we fucking all are) the more people hear my stuff the more im happy...so thats one point to you then |
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Artists put out a promo to garner publicity for their album (reviews, advance airplay, etc). I think it worked beyond their expectations. Will it increase record sales? Probably... |
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i'll certainly remove it from my slsk folder if you all think i should. i really just did it for me 'cause i'm not listening to no poop-star recording when i have the tools to fix it. |
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none of us are adolf hitler... i only think it's a bit much to re-master an unreleased album for distrubution cross the 'net -- thats only my opinion and nothing more. "they" may have concerns over it or they may not. it's up to you really. it's glad to know that there are hardcore ae fans out there!! |
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leave it on man! people download if they want....its up to them know what i mean... and fanx for taking care to remaster it im shure it ll save people time...so, do you like it herb? |
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fuck this. |
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haha oh man |
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good lord, i like it. definately more melodies flowing throughout than on Confield. compares favorably to the third track on Gantz Graf and third on Confield. sweet and crunchy. |
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those were my initial thoughts |
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here comes god...im leaving.fuck this. |
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`night cygnus. and long live free speech. herb, i love it too. |
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long live ep7, and asimo bots w0rd |
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don't just "fuck this" Phobiazero - i really want to know if people think it is wrong to remaster tracks released or unreleased. i do it all the time with vinyl when i tranfer it to cd. this is the first time i've ever put any of these remasterings online though. i never considered it an issue until now. |
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quick explanation for you: fuck this = it's wrong |
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keeping the files for yourself is alright tho. |
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oh! (feels a bit silly for calling phobiazero god) i thought you were gonna close the thread |
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what reason do you think it is wrong to distribute them on the 'net? i'm just curious |
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i think i'll just keep to myself or at least not label it as though it has been reworked. what's the story with this tape anyhow? where or whom did it come from? |
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Here's what I think: If you want to listen to it ahead of time, there's no harm in that. If you don't like it, just delete it. But as far as previews... I'd say a fair quality two-track CD-R is probably the best. My CD-R is two tracks of decent quality. It helps me get a feel for the album, I know what to expect from Draft: sounds good. :) And I think AE are probably proud to be spread around. So much junk like Oakenfold gets tossed around and played more often to people who are going to be open minded to electronic music. There must be a sense of accomplishment to them, you know? I'm sure it's possible they think poorly of those who helped spread it, but since I'm certain it will increase sales, I'd wager they'll be fine with it. I mean, all us dorks can boast and spread word of mouth about how great it is, thus increasing the demand to hear it. |
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they need to annouce it early to get hype going so people will actually buy the albumn.. i don't think promos should have been leaked this early... i for one haven't heard a note of it and i won't untill the day it comes out.. |
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