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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 04:43 [#00540175]
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I was shocked when I heard the news today about Phil Spector being accused of murdering some 40-year old woman. I'm sure it's not true and I'm glad to hear that he's enlisted Johnny Cochrane to help defend him. He helped to keep OJ Simpson out of jail even despite the racist police planting evidence on him and I hope he does the same for Phil as well. It would be a sad loss to have the best producer in the world behind bars.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 04:45 [#00540179]
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not cochrane.. shopiro.. cochrane is no longer doing criminal defense
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 04:45 [#00540182]
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phil spector used to pull guns on the artists he was producing, demanding excellence.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 04:51 [#00540196]
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I always mix up cochrane and shapiro. Two of the great defence attorneys. Anyway, it was just for show when Phil pulled out his gun in the studio - he never actually shot anyone then and i don't think he's shot anyone now.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 04:52 [#00540201]
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who did he do that to? the ramones?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-04 04:54 [#00540208]
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Sometimes it takes unusual measures to secure a great performance. Anyone who saw Martin Bashir's programme on Michael Jackson would attest to this.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 04:56 [#00540213]
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You're confusing me slightly with your somewhat cryptic questioning.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-04 04:57 [#00540214]
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fishcakes, do you know what i mean?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 04:57 [#00540216]
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I don't personally see the connection there jonesy. Could you elaborate on it slightly for me?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 04:58 [#00540218]
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ah - now we are getting somewhere. Yes. I think it has to be "Be my baby" but I think the Let it be album was very underrated.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-04 05:00 [#00540220]
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Well Bill, if you'd seen Bashir's revealing series of interviews with MJ, you'd know that his daddy used to beat the Jackson lads with belts and other implements to secure a tip top performance. Its the price you pay for excellence.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-04 05:00 [#00540221]
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hehehe
sorry, i jsut saw your comment about theo's cryptioc questioning and i remembered last weeks Never Mind THe Buzzcoks, and Mark Lamarr said that to take the piss out of someone and i am still laughing about it
just thought i'd amuse myself
lol
sorry
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 05:03 [#00540230]
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So, physical abuse = musical genius. It's a novel idea, but you just might be right. This requires some further investigation.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-04 05:05 [#00540234]
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Do you make music yourself William? Maybe you can test the theory tonight. While tinkling on you pia-pia-pia-no tonight, poke a needle in thine eye.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 05:06 [#00540237]
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But wait a minute. Phil spector was the musical genius - so he must have been waving the gun at himself. I'm confused.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 05:08 [#00540240]
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Oh I know what you mean about never mind the buzzcocks - it's a half an hour rollercoaster of fun and thrills and I could go on for hours about Lamarr's one-liners. And as for Phil Jupitus - pure comedy genius.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-04 05:08 [#00540241]
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phil was a producer yes?
producers shape the sound of the performers, and in many cases, can help motivate them to perform
he doesn't make the music, he helps the music makers
therefore holding a gun to an artitst as an incentive to work harder would work
whether it's right is another story
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 05:10 [#00540247]
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I'm asking you which artist he pulled a gun on.. you shouldnt have to decode that.
the beatles are releasing a "de-spectorized" version of "Let It Be" in a few months. apparently the album was initially scrapped, and all there was to work with were only a few fragmented pieces of certain songs which specter put together. he also provided the overwrought string arrangements to certain tracks (most notably the long and winding road).. this reissuing has nothing to do with this recent controversy though.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 05:12 [#00540250]
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I think he pulled a gun on ronnie spector a couple of times. Probably some others but obviously you're the expert - you tell me.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-04 05:14 [#00540252]
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The woman he shot was in The A-Team, Knightrider, The Barbarian Queen, Amazon Women Of The Moon, Scarface, Fast Times At Ridgemont High and ads for Nike, Kmart, Mercedes and Budweiser among other things.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 05:15 [#00540258]
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At least she's had a productive life then.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-04 05:16 [#00540260]
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He allegedly threatened Stevie Wonder, Ramone bassist Dee Dee Ramone and Leonard Cohen. I think Kim Howells is right about this 'gangster garage rap'. Spector had obviously been listening to this nihilistic rubbish and got busy with a firearm.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-04 05:16 [#00540261]
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Yes, he put paid to a great career.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-04 05:17 [#00540262]
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"Spector had obviously been listening to this nihilistic rubbish and got busy with a firearm."
hehehe
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 05:19 [#00540264]
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Stevie's going to be scared at a gun being waved about? How does that work?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-04 05:21 [#00540270]
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Apparently Spector said "Open your mouth bitch. Yeah suck on my pice bitch" and put the gun in Wonder's mouthhole.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-04 05:23 [#00540272]
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hahahahah
that's SO fucking funny
how sarcastic was that?
lol
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 05:26 [#00540280]
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Kim Howells is just expressing a concern that I think the majority of the British public have. All this glorification of violence is having a terrible effect on the youth of today. Not a day goes by in my town without hearing of another young brother being shot. It must stop. For the good of the nation. Why has Craig David gone from hero to zero? If he carried a gun I bet he'd still be in the charts. We live in hard cynical times where everything is measured by your material wealth. So Solid Crew and the rest of these hoodlums should be ashamed of themselves on have those pour dead souls blood on their hands.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 05:30 [#00540287]
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In wonder's mouth hole? A bit of tautology going on there jonesy.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-04 05:34 [#00540294]
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I agree. Various wooly liberals are decrying Howells' comments in a knee-jerk reaction. What they forget is that blacks are more easily open to suggestion. If they are listening to M.W.A 24/7, its going to have an affect. One too many listens to 'Straight Out of Crompton' and young blacks can get psychotic.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 05:39 [#00540301]
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That has to be a wind-up
MWA?
Straight outta Crompton?
I certainly hope it is.
Anyway Howell's isn't saying ALL blacks are easily influenced. Just some of them.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-04 05:40 [#00540302]
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i thought it was NWA?
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 05:50 [#00540314]
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thank you, jonesey, for your response. I hope my question didnt read like a veritable rosetta stone to you. bill hicks- your shit is tired, end it.
fucking idiot
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 07:06 [#00540387]
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Thank you for that constructive criticism. You could be right, as you so eloquently put it - my shit may be old. Unfortunately your shit is just shit.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 07:38 [#00540406]
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unfortunately your shit is not - and never has been - funny, at all.. even minimally. and I apologize for the insult of engaging in conversation with someone with such a dazzling mastery of the english language. you, clearly the king of eloquence, pointed out an error in my previous post. after all, your shit is not tired, but rather your shit is nearing the point of comatose. end it. seriously. the campy, overstated serene altruism thing. it's over. after the 15th straight post, it's time for a new schtick. talk like a normal human being for like.... 5 minutes. give us five minutes. at least. let's talk to 'bill_hicks' the human being at least once, even if it's just one post. no one's laughing, even at the "biting sarcasm" that, I'm guessing, is supposed to come off as being subtle. it's over. not funny
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 08:09 [#00540428]
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I know it's over and it never really began but in my heart it was so real and you even spoke to me and said:
"If you're so funny then why are you on your own tonight? and if you're so clever then why are you on your own tonight? if you're so very entertaining then why are you on your own tonight? if you're so very good looking why do you sleep alone tonight? I know because tonight is just like any other night that's why you're on your own tonight with your triumphs and your charms while they are in each other's arms"
I'm sorry I'm not this month's thing. Like, I'm so yesterday's news as you put it with your feeble grasp of trailer park trash english. With the sort of mentality that's constantly fixated with what's now and with it. Oh, you're so fucking now aren't you, theo? So fucking relevant. Is earnest in now, Theo? I better be earnest in future then.
Here we go
Fuck off
Twat
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-02-04 08:29 [#00540441]
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The same way it worked when George Bush waved to him, he used his enhanced sense of smell.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-02-04 08:30 [#00540444]
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I love you bill!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-04 08:34 [#00540448]
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to know him is to love him by the teddy bears is one of my favourite records of all time, a spector classic
if he gets done perhaps he can produce pete townsends new album
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 08:44 [#00540464]
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I'm guessing twat is somewhere outside the boundaries of 'trailer-park trash english' right?.. it's more like.. umm.. eurotrash english, thus making it more sophistocated, according to typical overzealous american anglophilic logic. something u probably fall prey to. anyway, I wouldn't know if u were ever even yesterday's news. u've never been of any importance to me.. or anyone for that matter. I just recently took notice of your name because you continuously pose speaking like an over-xanexed mental patient as non-stop-laughs comedy. that, and then you chose to take a shot in the dark by hurling an attempt at an insult in my direction. nononono.. don't do that. you're way out of your depth trying to test me. you're a fucking child.
but at least you can learn from this.. you've discovered what u were doign before wasn't funny, but then your fumbling all over being intelligent and injecting nonsense, neither-here-nor-there quotes from god knows what proved to be even funnier. but don't worry, even though we're now laughing AT you, doesn't mean that on some level we're not still laughing WITH you, do you know what I meeeaannn?? totally.
and yes, I'm now. I'm then, I'm tomorrow, I'm 2004, I'm 1996, and you're never and to conclude, in the spirit of utterly pointless and off-topic quoting, I bring you the man who IS the future, mr. 50 cent: 50, go right ahead:
"You can find me in the club, bottle full of bub. Look, mami I got the X if you're into takin' drugs. I'm into havin' sex, I ain't into makin' love, so come give me a hug if you feel like gettin' rubbed. In the street niggas' sayin' 'man, 50 you hot!', they love me, but I want 'em to love me like they love 'Pac. Now shawty said' she feelin' my style, feelin' my flow, her girlfriend's with it and she ready to go. They holla in New York like '50 you loco,' but my goal is to put the rap game in a chokehold..."
(Repeat Chorus x2) (2nd Verse) (Bridge) (Chorus) (3rd Verse) (Chorus to fade out)
aaaand hus
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 08:44 [#00540465]
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h.
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-02-04 08:44 [#00540466]
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If he did it, I hope he rots in jail. Maybe then I'll visit him and ask him to explain - Leonard Cohen's Death of Ladies Man - to me.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-02-04 08:47 [#00540469]
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Boooooooo! Boooooooo!
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 09:33 [#00540569]
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God theo, you try too hard. There's nothing more embarrassing than seeing a guy over-reach himself. Know your limits. And judging by your "i'm now, I'm tomorrow..." diatribe you are also sadly self -delusional.
Or as you would put it-
"like, whateva. Talk to the hand 'cause the head aint listening"
word.
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-02-04 10:23 [#00540664]
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yeah and further more Spector shited up Let It Be... that fuck. Thankfully it's being rereleased without the cheesy orchestration.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 12:02 [#00540779]
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uh oh! you were just caught projecting.. I dont "try hard" in internet message boards, esp. in messages directed to someone I dont know/care about ..
And judging by your "i'm now, I'm tomorrow..."
ur like a guppie going for the bait by quoting a joke mocking something YOU said; if you couldn't detect the fact that 90% of that post was 'tongue-in-cheek' then there's no point in continuing this.. you see, captain, in the big leagues we don't play tee-ball with the kids, undasstaaand? (see, that sentence, billy, was intentionally corny.. a bit 'kitchy' if you will. it's an example of one of those "joke" things we have on this planet, that is also a term some people might use to describe yourself, so u shoudl probably get used to it)
let's continue the quote-injected post pastiche:
"the rest of what [you] said, I just couldnt figure it out. I guess it's real hard to talk with a dick in your mouth."
"a wise man told me don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who."
proud of you!
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-04 12:31 [#00540811]
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Hollow vessels make the most noise, theo.
We have baseball over here too, theo. Except we called it rounders. And it's played by girls.
By the way, it's spelt kitsch. Unless of course the americans have bastardised that word as well.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-04 13:34 [#00540885]
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I think I'm the only person on earth that LIKES Phil's work on Let it Be!
But thank God he didn't feel compelled to bring the Beatles down to the mixing sessions and blow them up with a grenade.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-04 16:03 [#00541057]
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first of all that quote is fallible bullshit and therefore n/a. good attempt though, you're a regular nietzsche. really.
it should be noted that the hicks_vessel has made quite a bit of noise from which very little substance can be extracted, and the noise it made in the last post focused on the absence of the letter s, and the fact that baseball wherever the fuck you live is called rounders and is played by girls.... aaaand? so what? how is that a diss/valid rebuttal? it's not.. guess what, rounders is called baseball over here and it's played by men.. now what? back to square one
and since you want to bring it to a low, knit-picking level,
"defence" = it's spelt defense.
"So Solid Crew and the rest of these hoodlums should be ashamed of themselves on have those pour
dead souls blood on their hands."
"...should be ashamed of themselves FOR havING those poOr dead souls' blood..."
now post a response
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-04 16:25 [#00541072]
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defense is defence in the uk.
apart from that, go get 'im!
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