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Asche XL
on 2003-02-02 17:19 [#00538162]
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I just got PI and Requiem for a Dream both for 18$. Came in a two pack and just watched both. I have to say I thought they were both amazing, did this guy make any other movies?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:21 [#00538164]
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too bad he won't get to direct the next batman movie like he was supposed to. clint mansell was supposed to score that joint too. anyone know what he's doing instead?
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-02-02 17:23 [#00538166]
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pi is cool. didnt like requiem so much.
no more batman huh? thought it would be interesting...
guess we'll wait and see what next for em
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:23 [#00538167]
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aw shit, i was looking forward to gotham city aronofsky style
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Asche XL
on 2003-02-02 17:24 [#00538168]
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Are you serious or joking? That would be really cool heh if he did that. yeah anyway, if you find out what else he's doing/done let me know.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-02 17:25 [#00538172]
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his films are good.. but genius - nah..
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-02-02 17:29 [#00538177]
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these films are lush, darrens lush.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:33 [#00538181]
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friend and I got a chance to meet him at the premiere of Requiem. He and the producer were there answering questions and stuff, it was awesome.
btw: some guy in the crowd asked this question "So how hard was it shooting with digital cameras"
and Darren goes, "uh, we used film"
that guy must have felt really not awesome.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-02 17:34 [#00538183]
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He did some cheapass thing called Protozoa about 10 years ago and probably doesn't exist anywhere commercially available.
Most recently he wrote Below. Other than that, nothing.
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:37 [#00538191]
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i loved pi as well as requiem, although its not a movie one should go around saying they "love" he adressed some harsh issues and really did a good job in how he did it, the actors, scenery, filming techniques are all great its just the sad reality of how the story told was of a horrible subject matter
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PigeonSt
from Detroit on 2003-02-02 17:53 [#00538212]
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Pi is amazing. The scene on the beach is amazingly powerful. Gotta love the Spacetime Continuum song underneath.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-02 18:31 [#00538231]
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he was going to do something called the fountain (I think) with brad pitt and ellen burstyn (again)..that might've been scrapped though. he has a project coming out either this or next year for which he wrote thescreenplay (search imdb for this).. I believe Protazoa was a harvard student film.. it might've been a postgraduate work, I dont know though
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-02 18:34 [#00538233]
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genius is a bad word to throw around i think
its all style
i dont go around calling sean+rob geniuses but they have fucking style and talent
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Asche XL
on 2003-02-02 18:48 [#00538237]
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I do use the word pretty losely, but the word genius can also be an opinion. People's idea's of "genius" can differ.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-02 18:59 [#00538245]
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even scorsese isn't genius
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2003-02-02 19:06 [#00538249]
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They're excellent movies. Not the best ever made, but quite good nonetheless. Those are the only two feature films he's done.
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-02 19:23 [#00538255]
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overrated, the director and his films. but not neccessarily bad.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-02 19:30 [#00538257]
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Someone name a director who IS a genius so we'll have a benchmark.
Kubrick?
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-02 19:38 [#00538260]
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kubrick.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-02 19:52 [#00538265]
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okay kubrick I see that.. for the sake of setting a benchmark for other directors I'd have to include scorsese because the sample population size is now smaller.
you know what? in order to really open up this conversation, why dont we substitute "genius" with "brilliant"
this would include, among those mentioned david fincher (consistantly) woodly allen (in his prime, of course) hitchcock, david lynch (invariably) spike jonze (he might fall under the genius category.. really.. either that or super-brilliant (?)) darren arronofsky. oliver stone, of course.. not coppola, he just has too many strikes against him.. there are many many more....
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-02 19:58 [#00538267]
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Requien for a Dream and Pi are both amazing! Wow! I found the latter at Hastings once on dvd for like seven dollars--and didnt get it! Man, do I regret that!
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dmise
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-02 19:59 [#00538268]
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The Fountain was well into preproduction and all the sound stages were booked then Brad Pitt pulled out at the last minute cause they were offering more money to do Troy. So the production companies didn't want to put money into it unless Brad Pitt was in it. Brad Pitt said he was worried that a lot of the main stream audience would not be able to understand the movie.
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-02-02 20:00 [#00538269]
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I find his films to be pretentious and unwatchable. There's a "look at me I'm a self important artist" quality to them.
As for young directors, I prefer Todd Solondz - his sense of humour is just so sick. Enjoyable none the less.
Genius? Kubrick, Lynch, Hitchcock, Polansky and Orson Wells
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-02 20:03 [#00538271]
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david fincher made only one good film, se7en.
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-02 20:07 [#00538274]
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welcome to the dollhouse was mediocre, happiness was above average, but storytelling was a work of art.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-02 20:08 [#00538277]
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Happiness was fun. He made good use of Ben Gazzara(sp?).
Two movies that blew me the fuck away were Gummo and Crumb. So while I can't say that Zwigoff and Korine are geniuses, those movies were brilliant and showed signs of genius.
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-02 20:18 [#00538285]
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crumb only did the movie because zwigoff threatened to kill himself if he didn't. he slept with a gun under his pillow every night during the filming.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-02 20:38 [#00538305]
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Gun under whose pillow?
Crumb had the gun because he was afraid of Zwigoff, or Zwigoff had it because he thought he might pop awake one night thirsty for some hot lead?
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-02 20:44 [#00538313]
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zwigoff. because he threatened to kill himself.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-02 20:46 [#00538316]
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kubrick was not genius
his style was just so unique and he worked for himself that his movies were fucking great
gotta appreciate someones style
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-02 20:48 [#00538320]
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If I were Crumb I would have kept something handy under my pillow too, having to deal with such a psycho.
Did he do the same thing to get Thora Birch and Steve Buscemi in Ghost World?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-02 20:49 [#00538321]
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i understand i am being very literal about this and i probably shouldnt
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-02 20:55 [#00538331]
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Tim Burton is a genius, in my opinion. He's my favorite filmmaker. Think carefully about all the shots. You don't have to hear a word of dialogue or even a note of the score to feel how lonely and out of place Edward is in Edward Scissorhands--that takes ability. Even scorsese couldn't get DeNiro's emotions out without dialogue or score--well, not all of them. :)
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-02 20:57 [#00538332]
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no, because they are actors.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-02 21:22 [#00538351]
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LOL yes, and understandably less reluctant to act.
He could have gotten Buscemi to play Crumb. It's a tight fit.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-02-03 11:12 [#00539098]
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i respect peoples opinion, in fact most my friends really love his work but for my sake i hated requiem for a dream and didnt think much of pi. i loved donnie darko, love all of lynchs movies in fact i just love movies. but not darrens. he isnt that lush at all for me.
THEO_ didnt u think panic room was shit?
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-02-03 11:17 [#00539106]
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yeah XL both those movies are great.
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Asche XL
on 2003-02-03 15:22 [#00539414]
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I really want to check out Lynch films, in the meantime I found this http://aronofksy.tripod.com/index.html
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-03 15:41 [#00539434]
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Pi is good stuff.... For a dream was rather depressing. I don't like depressing movies but the story was well told and it made you think.
He's good.
Speaking of the batman stuff didn't the momento guy get that? I can't think of his name off hand.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-02-03 18:41 [#00539654]
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christopher nolan? i never heard of him doing batman. i honestly cant see aronofsky doing batman or ronin or any of those comics. i doubt aronofsky will have a new film out until at least end of 2004 most likely 2005.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-02-03 18:43 [#00539656]
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and i dont see why he hasnt done anything i mean hes only written pi, he only directed requiem for a dream (it was a book for those who did not know). and below is a shit submarine movie that he half wrote probably just for the $ because hes not done much as of late.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-03 18:46 [#00539659]
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"Pi" was one of only 3 movies that have ever left me feeling completely inspired afterwards, movies that do that don't come along often
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-03 18:50 [#00539668]
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nolan's doing the batman thing..
todd solondz is fucking awful. he' the only director I actually want to beat the shit out of because of his filsm
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-03 18:51 [#00539669]
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and we forgot spike lee.
go see 25th hour.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-03 19:34 [#00539703]
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David Cronenberg is pretty brilliant imo..
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