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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2003-01-31 06:13 [#00535432]
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Wise man would check soulseek (my username)
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-31 07:37 [#00535450]
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What are the odds?
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-01-31 10:04 [#00535472]
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thank you mr. brisk, you are on my list if you want something in return ;) username r_rober
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-01 09:01 [#00536577]
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Most, if not all, of the versions on Soulseek are fakes....be careful...
The tape I've heard is very good...no-ones gonna be dissapointed...another step forward for AE; not as continually sonicly extreme as Confield (although it has it's moments...)...Less wholy digital as well; very warm in places...
yay!...looking forward to release date even more now...
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-01 09:33 [#00536593]
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Jand--can you verify legitimacy of these files?
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-01 09:41 [#00536600]
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Most of the 128kb ones I've heard from SS are fakes...and pretty obvious ones at that...(I don't believe Michael Jackson is in AE for instance...one dl was PYT..hehe..)
Theres a tape rip goin around at 128 that is real... in 2 parts...
Also a 192kbs tape tape rip...split into tracks...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-01 09:43 [#00536602]
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Brisks look fine tho...
Steer clear of the "dfw" ones...
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2003-02-01 09:59 [#00536618]
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The tracks are real. I inititally put up 2 MP3 files (named Side A and Side B), but now i've cut them up, and put them in what I believe to be the correct time for each individual track. I was absolutely swamped with requests last night, but I managed to upload to quite a few people, so hopefully there should be a few sources for the files now. Sound quality is pretty much the best you could expect from analogue tape. It will certainly do the biz until the album is released, and we can buy the CD anyway.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-01 10:05 [#00536624]
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yeah, sorry Brisk, didn't mean to suggest otherwise...think I must have misread your first post...
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xceque
on 2003-02-01 10:07 [#00536625]
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128k mp3s? >:| bah... I'll wait for my tape to arrive... any time now
*checks watch*
*remembers doesn't have watch*
*checks phone*
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2003-02-01 10:18 [#00536630]
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I have the tape. Converting tape media to an MP3 bitrate above 128kbps is a pointless exercise, since the frequency range, and sound quality of the source isn't the greatest anyway.
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xceque
on 2003-02-01 10:37 [#00536640]
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You're wrong. Compression to low bitrate mp3 from a tape source will produce audible artifacts from the hiss. And from treble frequencies in the recorded sound where it exists, and tape is capable of recording such sounds. The lower the bitrate, the more artifacts get introduced. When encoding a tape rip you are essentially intruducing more of a quality loss than from a better quality source. The result is a file that I wouldn't want to listen too. People often make the mistake of thinking that if the source isn't so good, then it doesn't matter if it's poo compression. The poor compression just compounds the annoyance.
In a way, I suppose your right. If the source is shit, then it doesn't make any different what compression you use cos the result is still shit.
Whatever, I'll be doing myself a CDR from my tape and cleaning it up nicely. I did my Blech, Eurowarp and Cryptoburners tapes and they are up to CD quality with no hiss.
Then I'll buy the proper Draft when it's released anyway ;)
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2003-02-01 11:00 [#00536658]
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Artifacts will be minimal, to none-existant if you use a decent MP3 encoder such as LAME. I don't normally deal with tape media anymore, but like with my vinyl rips, I edit them manually in Soundforge after I record the wav. Regardless, you'll NEVER get them to CD quality, nomatter how much noise reduction you add.
Still, its probably a good thing since it gives everyone more of a reason to buy the CD/Vinyl when its released :>
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-01 12:20 [#00536730]
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perhaps it is a wise idea to upload these mp3s to the ever so elusive ftp server?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-01 12:24 [#00536733]
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so, to those of you who heard it...
is it amazing? is it leaps and bounds from confield, like all their previous albums have been leaps and bounds from the ones before... or is it basically Confeild Part 2.?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-01 12:58 [#00536748]
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if that were the case, would you automatically not like the album? :P
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-01 13:00 [#00536750]
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no im just curious on peoples thoughts, because there has been alot of guessing what it will sound like lately
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2003-02-01 13:12 [#00536758]
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Give me the ever so elusive IP/pass to the ever so elusive FTP server, and I will upload it (hell, if it saves me 10 hours uploading it to 50 sources on slsk, i'm more than willing).
As for the album itself: I like to describe it as Confield 0.5. Don't assume it is a hybrid between LP5 and Confield, because it shares much more in common with the latter (many tracks aren't instantly accessible, but the melodies become more noticable after multiple listens). My particular favourites are P.:NTIL, V-PROC, and Reniform Puls (incidentally, these are the last three tracks, and are all quite different from one another).
Its not as ground breaking as Confield was (lets face it, we had never heard anything quite like it when it was released), but is a strong album nonetheless, and grows on you more with each listen.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-02-01 13:37 [#00536776]
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I downloaded some tracks from soulseek, but I'm pretty sure they're fakes... they sound alright, but definetly to simple to be ae, and by your description they're almost surly fakes
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2003-02-01 14:43 [#00536856]
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sshshhh.... the tracks are nearly up on the elusive FTP anyway. You can listen for yourself then.
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2003-02-01 14:55 [#00536877]
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great work brisk !
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-01 14:57 [#00536879]
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recorded from a tape.. and compressed @ 128KBPS?
no sir
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-02-01 15:51 [#00536924]
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god forbid theres inconsistant "weird sounds" in the fuzz of the tape encoding of draft 7.30, i mean christ, i payed for it i want quality 3559203569 bitrate +++++- NO +++ lame 392-3520/15 tan 56 /3 giggammxpentium5400000 mp3s
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2003-02-01 15:56 [#00536930]
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lol disasemble.... whats funiest is that after all the moaning, cygnus has queued it up anyway! :>
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2003-02-01 16:42 [#00536971]
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Can't seem to find them on the FTP... They've finished uploading or no? And thanks for sharing with us, I've spent the better part of a month trying to find them :)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-01 16:51 [#00536979]
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try the Upload folder ;)
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2003-02-01 16:53 [#00536980]
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thanks mate :)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-01 17:51 [#00537001]
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no problem :)
damn i think this album is going to need heavy listening. lots of hip hip going on- which is good
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-01 18:48 [#00537050]
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I can't remember what is the passwd for the MP3s but I have the one for the videos. Can someone give me a hint plz...
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Salma Hayek
on 2003-02-01 19:43 [#00537114]
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how can one access the ever so elusive FTP server?
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-01 20:36 [#00537142]
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use the search engine...
So anyone can give me psswd for the music directories ?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-01 21:32 [#00537149]
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sent an e-mail to the adress in your profile.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-01 22:07 [#00537150]
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bastard!!!
:D
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Salma Hayek
on 2003-02-01 23:06 [#00537161]
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i thought of that..anything i search gives a "no results" result
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-02 05:52 [#00537566]
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try just using "elusive" as the key word..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-02 09:45 [#00537711]
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DAMN YOU ALL!! :P
this sounds GREAT!!
I immediately have fallen in love with "TAPR" - what an incredible track..
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-02 12:07 [#00537877]
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this is grim, grim music
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-02 12:12 [#00537881]
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you think?
doesn't sound like that at all, to me.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-02 12:14 [#00537883]
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damn!
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-02 12:16 [#00537886]
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dunno i see vast landscapes of distant future industry crawling with pieces of broken machinery. oh yes, and lightning :) i have to say this is ae's darkest yet. relentless music. it offers nothing to grab on to. or no?
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ka
on 2003-02-02 12:21 [#00537894]
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Anyone want to give me the password? I can't see the upload folder.
Thanks
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ka
on 2003-02-02 12:26 [#00537904]
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Sorry for the me-too-ism. But I'd appreciate it.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-02-02 12:26 [#00537905]
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This sucks....I thought I was the only one who had it.....My bet it will be all over SLSK next week....
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-02-02 14:53 [#00538054]
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Thank you brisk ... it is on my opennap server now for anyone who wants a speedy download.
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