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yea i read that too.. i'm so glad he spoke out |
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Yeh i saw that on the news before. Respect to the man most high. |
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He, thats my old leader. Now we have a total dumbass running the country. |
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yeah that was a cool statement. i have to say though, the americans must be feeling the entire world is against them. i heard americans are discouraged to travel to europe. that's ridiculous. and a shame :) |
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Nelson Mandela is the man... I have so much respect for him... when I heard about what he said I was like "Sweet!!" |
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I agree with him. but bringing race into it is a bit of a stretch. no need to pull that card now. it's too petty in contrast with what's going on now |
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you forget Tony Blair is backing Bush all the way, it's NOT all americans.......too bad he doesn't show some backbone as well!!! |
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eh? yes blair is acting a bit silly as well, that's certainly true. but britons generally don't give a toss about what other europeans think about them ;) btw, i was kinda defending americans there, hehe :D |
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shame they wont pay any attention to mr.mandela.... :( |
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he's old, black, foreign, and no longer in power, why would they? ;) |
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bush is (getting) old, white, american and has no braincells... are some more reasons :-( |
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it's sad. most american's probably don't know who he is. |
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whoa! i dont believe that.... really? |
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i don't really know if it's 'most' but i know that a lot of people who know his name, may or may not know that he was an african leader, or know anything about him. of course i'm only twenty years old. |
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from my experience thus far, i usually assume ignorance. |
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without the US Mandela would still be in some prison and south africa would be under apartheid, maybe he should rethink his words |
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what's that got to do with bush? anyway i hope he doesn't kill the space programme |
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thats not true, the schools praise him for the great leader he is was/is.. if any American doesn't know who he is there something wrong with them or they are really young |
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well do make a comment thats its about taking control of oil is not 100 % true, he couldve express his anti war feelings in a more subtle way like " im against it" in stead he put it in a negative way.. |
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he said it because someone big had to say it. the rest of the world is too cowardly to do it yet they do think it. it's a shame it didn't get more media attention... |
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well I think the matter well past the time for subtlety dont you think?..Bush is being farfrom subtle about his intentions of swarming the country with swarms upon swarms of troops being poured into the region daily.. sheesh and why would Mandela be rotting in a prison cell if it wasnt for Americans? I think you are under estimating the role of the entire worlds protestors and demonstrators in the Anti-aparthied movement..it was a global effort... btw..none of the Mandela's statements were Anti-American per say..he had guts to name the problem..BUSH..which very few other people of prominance are yet to do... |
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b0nk's gone, flea :( |
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gone? lol im hoping you meant from my computer.. *shrugs* i dont agree with the politics of most on this board.. instead of keeping quiet i voice them sometimes to try and give some sort opposing view .. anyways i dont care |
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another little and mostly unreported fact from this reliable yea bribery, corruption and threats will get you everywhere..especially when your governements foreign policy decision maker ministers are also in charge of defence...such as Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, Bolton (pro nuclear arms profileration) and Perle |
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for you jupitah a profile on |
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dont mind me, im gone, lost to the Bush war machine.. HELP THIS BOARD IS MY ONLY HOPE AAAHH THESE MEN IN BLACK SUITES AND SILENT HELICOPTERS ARE CHASING ME! NOOO SAVE YOURSELF |
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oww should Nelson be cultarally sensitve in the way he critized a government mostly responsible that has murdered 500,000+ people in Iraq? |
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well I tell you I was pretty felt up with Clinton when American helicopters and miltary invaded Auckland for his visit distrubing the peace and blocking off our peaceful, busy city for a visit...it certainly was an invasion... |
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in addition to that our city was cleaned up was cleaned up especially...shiny new rubbish bins...freshly painted roads...homeless banished from the inner city...cordoned off sections of road...miltarymen running around going hup.hup..hup..scary man :P |
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are you still talking? dude im gone dont worry |
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have you read anything about BIKO? he's a real unsung hero of South Africa, amazing song by Peter Gabriel too (if you have not heard it) check out his story, i think you'll find it fascinating! |
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thanks red. bonk, i didn't catch the anti-american tone in mandela's words, did i miss something? i thought everything he said was on point and i felt that none of it was directed at me, an american. |
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yeah i meant away from the comp, mate :) |
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exactly, his speech was directed solely at bush :) |
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thanks Le Couer I have heard of him...think I saw a documentary a while ago...just might refresh my memory and look him up |
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i thought you probably had heard of him! what happened to him is hard to believe in these 'modern' times. we should learn about people like him in history class, but i don't see it happening anytime soon. he fought the system and lost his life, but his death DID make a difference. |
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