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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-01-30 20:01 [#00535110]
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Just out of curiosity, who among you is a smart, beautiful, Tori fan? Who has four fun cats and a winning sense of humor? That's what I wanna know! :D
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-01-30 20:03 [#00535112]
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You are a prince. :)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-30 20:36 [#00535135]
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Awww, thanks Luke! However, I only have one cat, not four.
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optimus prime
on 2003-01-30 20:41 [#00535138]
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i thought tori amos fans were all really geeky teenage girls that constantly need to proclaim that they are bi-sexual.
these girls like beads and lisa loeb glasses. they also think they are artistic.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-30 20:51 [#00535154]
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hahahhahhahah
*composes self*
hey... lay off, tori is a "goddess" ;)
let young people be young..
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-01-30 21:12 [#00535182]
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hahaha..yes...yes... anyone going to cancel this thread? :)
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-01-30 21:34 [#00535201]
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She's good...a bit on the depressing mood but shes better then any other woman volcalist out there...yeah!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-30 21:35 [#00535203]
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better than any other women vocalist out there? you're kidding, right?
i love tori and i think she's one of the best female vocalists to ever be mainstream but there are thousands more talented and more emotionally powerful singers than her, and she'll be the first to admit who she admires vocally.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-01-30 23:03 [#00535272]
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Tori is incredible, I saw her 2 times last tour. I love her music! and by the way I only have 2 cats...but I do have a few fish if that counts
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-01-30 23:11 [#00535284]
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..... im not saying im smart or beautiful but i am a tori fan with soon 4 cats :)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-01-31 01:31 [#00535356]
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ummmmmmm
i have 4 cats, and like a good sense of humor, and i own several tori cd's and went to a concert (once was quite enough for me, TOO depressing)
i somehow feel this thread was meant for ONE person, i'm not sure why you feel the need to proclaim it on a public messageboard tho, strange ???
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-01-31 01:44 [#00535357]
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spooky's either flirting with alla da gurls on da board or... flirting with disaster..take yer pick :p
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-31 02:03 [#00535363]
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what, this is a public message board? i thought it was a place to flaunt the fact that you're in a happy relationship.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-01-31 02:24 [#00535367]
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oi stop fighting with the missus...go on give her a kiss then...go on..go on...
(whoa I suddenly got possessed by the spirit of Mrs Doyle for a second)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-01-31 02:54 [#00535382]
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i can't have cats cause i get sick of them...
a, and tori is cool
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-01-31 05:06 [#00535407]
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hahaha. ;)
I love her. :) She doesnt depress me at all, nor does her music. She makes me very very happy!!!!! :D And shes very very human. ;)
Im also aware of other great fmale singers (Sarah McLachlan, Fiona Apple, Ani Difranco, Bjork, Stevie Nicks, ect.) but Tori is my favorite. :)
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-01-31 05:09 [#00535409]
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hahaHAA! :D
No, no, no, and no. :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-31 05:23 [#00535412]
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I think Amos is highly overrated. but oh well..
give me Kristin Hersh or PJ Harvey any day.. :)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-31 14:44 [#00535669]
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you do realize there are great female singers who aren't popular, right? like, you know, laurie anderson, diamanda glass, that sort of thing?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-31 14:48 [#00535675]
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well, perhaps i should have replaced "popular" with "commercially viable." anyway, it's a bit of a laugh to put tori, as much as i love her, up there with some of the great talents in vocal music (think opera, think jazz, think "art music").
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xceque
on 2003-01-31 14:51 [#00535680]
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Hmm. I happen to really like Tori Amos and I'm no teenager. She's sassy, er, sexy? and um mad? well I like her anyway. I also like
Laurie Anderson Kristin Hersh Jane Siberry - GET WITH IT! SHE'S GREAT! WAKE UP!! Bjork Peej
but I also like Kate Bush a lot too.
And I dug out my Rosie Vela CD the other day too and thought 'despite horrible over-production theres some really great songs there!'
What does that make me?
I have one cat and an odd sense of humour which no-one bloody understands!!
*sighs*
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-31 14:55 [#00535683]
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Tori can bite me. Kat Bjelland or Kim Deal should kick her ass ...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-31 15:06 [#00535695]
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jane sibbery is great. what're your favorite songs by her? the one on the crow soundtrack is dope. kate bush also has a great voice. pj harvey and bjork are also truly talented "alternative" vocalists. i'd put tori and beth gibbons right up there too. i'm just sayin' it's pretty funny when girls act like their favorite pop singer is the best in the world just cos they like 'er, oblivious to a whole world of more talented and innovative vocal performers.
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xceque
on 2003-01-31 15:18 [#00535718]
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It's very hard to decide on favourite Sibs. My favourite album is probably her debut, or the Walking. Or When I Was a Boy... Off the top of my head tracks I'd go for: La Jalouse, In the Blue Light, Grace Hospital from Lips out of the NY Trilogy box, the Gospel According to Darkness.. oh dear there's just too many to list. I love everything. I have everything as far as I know, and I love it all :)
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-01-31 18:11 [#00535932]
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ooH Diamanda Galas can beat me up and terrorize me any day.@_@
Same goes for Ms.Lydia Lunch..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-31 18:23 [#00535941]
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I guess Tori Amos just irritates the hell out of me, with her "madness".
Kristin Hersh is better in that respect because she is still a regular human being - I can really relate to her.
Kim Deal RAWKS yeah!!!
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-01-31 18:49 [#00535969]
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Scout Niblett
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-31 19:14 [#00535983]
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tori is a regular human being, a happy wife and mom.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-01-31 19:16 [#00535984]
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Tori Anus sucks!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-31 19:28 [#00535989]
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I hadn't noticed yet.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-01-31 23:10 [#00536081]
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You know, I think the arrogance is unneeded and undesired. A lot of people on this board seem to think their tastes are better than others', which is not the case at all. Not everyone is going to like everything; no two people's tastes overlap. I just don't understand the need for such wanton pompousness--what makes anyone think that a person who likes Tori Amos as a favorite musician somehow has a skewed or conspicuously biased opinion of all musical things?
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-01-31 23:23 [#00536104]
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Contrary to your wrong judgments of me, I am not oblivious to a world of better singers--its just that Tori happens to be my favorite. When I have a favorite, I usually stick with it, and Tori has been my favorite female singer for a long time. Just let it be.
And by the way, I do not like Diamanda Galas. Her piano playing is good, but I cant get into her voice. :|
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-01-31 23:26 [#00536111]
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dimanda galas is far more magic than tori. tori is kinda the voice of the misuinderstood little girlies. im not into all this female vocalist thingy enough but diamanda sure has magic!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-31 23:28 [#00536114]
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My favorite female singers are Phil Spector's girl groups, like the Supremes. Love is an Itchin' In My Heart makes my butt wiggle.
And I kind of agree with what SpookyLukey said a second ago. Well actually it was like 15 minutes ago.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-31 23:30 [#00536116]
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why do you think i was even talking to you? you're not the only girl to post in this thread. i'm glad you're not oblivious to the fact that there are a lot of really interesting singers out there and not every talented singer is in the pop field.
but i agree with neetta.. tori's kinda the marilyn manson or korn for the female sex. that doesn't stop me from listening to her anyway.
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-01-31 23:31 [#00536119]
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Yah, I can see how people would like her--shes very passionate and her voice is full of so many raw emotions... I just cant get into it (her voice, that is). It kind of irritates me. I feel those same emotions from Tori or the Cure or Bauhaus.
Do you have any suggestions to a Diamanda song that I might like? :) (Ive heard some and deleted them all from my computer and no longer recall the names.)
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-01-31 23:34 [#00536122]
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"tori's kinda the marilyn manson or korn for the female sex."
What makes you say that? How can you possibly hope to support such a claim?
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-01-31 23:34 [#00536123]
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I assumed you were talking to me seeing as you had that whole thread a little while ago in which you essentially discredited any knowledge that I had and indirectly called me narrow minded. :)
Because I dont like hip hop...
I like Manson! :D Man that you Fear is great. I dont think hes a god or anything, but I like his music.
Comparing Tori to Manson? Heh!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-31 23:38 [#00536128]
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because so many girls latch onto her music and lyrics before or without really understanding it. they catch a vibe (depression, introspection, redemption, self-assuredness, vengeance/defiance) and think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, or for short, that tori/manson/korn/nin/britney/eminem/etc. "really understand them." there's a lot of raw talent in tori's music and lyrics, it's just neglected by most of her fans until they grow older and get past their childhood biases and limited experience. hate me now; that's how i feel on the subject.
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-01-31 23:41 [#00536134]
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Fortunately for me, I am eighteen years old and I am past those childhood biases and limited experiences. ;)
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-01-31 23:48 [#00536141]
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I disagree. With Korn and (several, but not all) Marilyn Manson tracks, the lyrics are meaningless drivel. There's nothing there to connect with. Sure, Korn's great for cheesy acronyms, and Marilyn Manson can say something that the MTV crowd will find shocking or obscene, but there's nothing there as far as a message goes. No message to interpret in the first place! In the parallel you've drawn, you imply there's something to be understood about Korn/Manson. See? And which childhood biases and limited experience are you referring to? Don't you think Tori writes songs that are easy for people to connect with because they have meaning? Isn't it logical that me and a gun is going to strike a chord with anyone? not just rape victims. Is there anyone who hasn't had the emotions if not the experiences in her songs? They're personal wheras Masnon and Korn have very insincere, impersonal lyrics.
But if you mean to say that young teenagers get into somehting that they don't understand and like it, that's somehow wrong? Besides, music is about this "vibe," isn't it? Isn't that the point? Isn't that why we listen to this vocalless nonsense? because ultimately listening to Aphex causes us to catch a certain vibe. None of us will understand what his tracks mean; it's completely subjective, but the vibe is what counts in this! So it's ridiculous to go on thinking that just because a person likes a certain "mainstream" musician, that they can't appreciate the vibe, right?
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-31 23:52 [#00536144]
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You'll be dead and in hell before I'm born Sure thing. Bridesmaid. The only solution. Isn't it amazing?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-31 23:59 [#00536157]
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i wouldn't say korn and manson's lyrics are meaningless, there're some sentiments mixed in there, but it comes off very contrived and pretentious. so do many of tori's lyrics to her young and naive listeners who just wants someone to look up to. i'm not saying tori's lyrics are shit; they're great, and a lot better written than korn's, manson's, or even nin's. it goes in that radiohead category of great but a little immature, like it's just meant to apply to teenage squabbles and nights alone sulking in bedrooms. few of her songs seem to really transcend that niche, though i doubt it's intentional.
as for "me and a gun", what makes that song any more powerful than "daddy" by korn? (this brings me back.. haven't listened to any korn in 5 years). i mean korn's singer was molested and possibly raped while young also, does that not add any legitimacy to his lyrics?
i never said there's anything "wrong" about teenagers latching onto a musician for comfort and security. we've all done it i'm sure. i'm just pointing out that it happens. and for the record it was afxNUMB who said tori's the best female vocalist out there, not your girlfriend. you may have started this thread as a private note to her but it's morphed into a tori discussion since then.
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-01 00:15 [#00536180]
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I like Tori Amos. A lot. Hell, I will go as far as to say that she is my favorite female vocalist/musician/lyricist to date. I have liked her for as long as I can remember, and really got into her when I was fourteen or fifteen. Now I have grown and matured, and I feel that my tastes have matured as well--but no matter what, I will always like Tori Amos. I feel that she will always be my favorite female singer.
And no one else has to feel that way. Those are just my feelings. No matter what anyone says, I will still feel this way.
Theres no need for petty pretentiousness here, in my opinion. No one is better than anyone else just because he or she happens to like a certain type of music--or every type of music.
Lets just show a little more respect for other peoples tastes, okay?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-02-01 00:26 [#00536188]
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Tori.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-01 00:27 [#00536191]
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HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
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