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martinhm
from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 04:59 [#00526334]
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damn it, I hate it when CDs get scratched.
I had 2370894 out for a party, but when I go to put it on today it skips all over the place. I turn it over only to find out that it is scratched to buggery. That's another £12 down the drain, as I can't reasonably live my life without a daily dose of Fuck Toronto Jungle.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-24 05:02 [#00526339]
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my 'radioactive man' has a damn scratch the only track which doesn't play well anymore is 'Goodnight MORTON
you will all understand this hurts me in my heart...
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nacmat
on 2003-01-24 05:06 [#00526342]
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I cant listen to 2 tracks on the prodigys fat of the land
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-24 05:11 [#00526345]
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Scratches are bad :-/
One of my favourite songs ever is "losing my religion" from R.E.M....
well... no prizes for guessing which track on my copy of "Out of time" has a scratch and the track keeps skipping :-(
"oh no i've said too much, i haven't said enouououououououououououou..."
i hate it! Why do cd's do that? My copy of OK Computer also has a nasty scratch on it (from when i accidentally let it slip from my fingers one day ;-)), but that one plays all the tracks just fine.
You can barely see the scratch on Out Of Time, and yet there it fucks up every single time i play it... wierd.
Hey recently i saw that radioactive man-cd in a store morton :-p Funny looking at that tracklisting and seeing your name.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-24 05:13 [#00526350]
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only 2? then you have to scratch that CD some more ..
;)
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diablo
on 2003-01-24 05:14 [#00526352]
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they scratch so easily... remember when they came out and they were saying they were really tough. bollox. sometimes if you get a soft cloth and wipe from the centre out it works, as well as checking for drops of water / beer etc and cleaning
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-24 05:17 [#00526355]
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If you're going to scratch stuff, I find vinyl works better. Sorry, couldn't resist that one ;)
Try cleaning the CD- I've had some that were scratched so badly 60% of the tracks skipped and after a thorough cleaning only one or two tracks did.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-24 05:39 [#00526379]
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shame on you surrounded! you should have bought that CD! don't you see it's going to be a collectors item? MY name is on it!
if i ever die ("..yeah if only morton") it will be worth very very much
btw the music is also good stuff imo, pretty electro, i saw the guy djing at 'dance valley' .. after that i bought the CD
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-24 05:40 [#00526380]
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:)
:P
;)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 05:44 [#00526385]
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CD-Rom drives have good error correction. Many times a CD that may skip in your player wont in a CD-Rom drive so you can rip it and back it up.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 05:45 [#00526387]
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My Plan B album 'Cyber chords and sushi stories' won't play in my normal CD player but works fine in my MP3CD player and CD-Rom so I can rip and write a backup.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 05:49 [#00526394]
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Scratched DVDs are worse though. They get scracted even easier!
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2003-01-24 05:53 [#00526399]
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man i scratched my caustic window cd and i cant listen to garden of limri no more.....
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-24 05:56 [#00526405]
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He's right you know!
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 05:58 [#00526409]
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*beams* ^-^
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martinhm
from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 06:02 [#00526415]
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true, dvds are worse for scratches. I saw these plastic adhesive protectors once, you stick them on the readable side of dvds/cds and supposedly they can still be read, and are scratch-resistant.
I can't help thinking what would happen if you accidently got an air bubble while applying it.
I'm going to have to replace 2370894, I can't live with a scratched cd... gah!
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xceque
on 2003-01-24 06:04 [#00526421]
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Some cds, especially early ones from the late 80's don't rip properly at all in modern cd rom drives. I tried to rip Tom Waits' Swordfishtrombones pressed in 1987 and no cd rom I have (I have 9) will read it without errors. Yet my hi-fi plays it fine. Even the playstation plays it fine. What's with that?
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 06:11 [#00526432]
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I have a Sony CDU4811 CD-Rom and that will play anti-piracy CDs fine as if it was normal for some reason. I like to get older CD rom drives as they are normally much better then a new 52X.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 06:15 [#00526437]
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Have you tried reading it with a 2X or 4X? try using your writer to rip it maybe? Some older CDs will only play in slow drives. I had a 4X drive and I swear it was the fastest I had used because it would read instantly instead of spending 30 seconds getting up to a fast speed. PS is 4X I think.
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xceque
on 2003-01-24 06:22 [#00526445]
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The CD-ROMs I have vary between regular CD-ROMs (several makes), Ricoh CD re-writers, HP CD re-writers, LG DVD ROMs, using Win XP, Win 98, Win95, Win2000. Using EAC. Ripping at 1x where the drive allows it.
Buffered burst read modes will read the CD quickly, but with errors. EACs normal mode will read VERY slowly and still produce errors. I gave up. I think I'll just buy it. I can probably find old Tom Waits CDs for 3.99 new these days.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 06:28 [#00526452]
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Ripping at software 1X is not the same as using a 1X or 2X drive. If you see a 1X to 4X going cheap get it as you can often rip tricky CDs in these. This is why the operation system bares no impact on ripping, It's the drive that reads the CD and the software only translates it to whatever.
Just because something is new don't make it better, especially with CD-Rom drives. Manufactures used to put a lot of effort into making them but now they can't afford to as the market is flooded with 52X drives for under £10.
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xceque
on 2003-01-24 06:31 [#00526457]
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I know what you mean. I've tried CDROMs from years ago that can't go faster than 4x and still no joy. The CD isn't scratched at all, so I've no idea what's up. Some of my own CDs suffer from the same problem. A have a triple CD compilation called the Serious Road Trip that was on offer in the NME years ago. Or maybe it was Melody Maker when it was actually any good. Those CDs won't rip either, but I think that's cos they were cheap :p
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 06:35 [#00526462]
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"Melody Maker when it was actually any good"
*grins*
Well I can't help any. Try using an Amiga to rip them? }:>
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diablo
on 2003-01-24 06:36 [#00526464]
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Hey that CD is pretty good! Good Orbital track on CD3 and some other good bits n bobs
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 06:36 [#00526465]
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Does anyone else see the irony that a really old CD is proving impossible to copy and it DOESN'T have all this computer freezing shit on it. How fucked up is that?
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xceque
on 2003-01-24 06:40 [#00526469]
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yeah, I'd forgotten hwo good some of it was. I put it on recently. The Secret Knowledge track is great and made me stick on some of my old Kris Needs stuff. I used to be really into Kris' remixes.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-24 08:07 [#00526599]
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he, well i never even heard of radioactive man before ;-) Didn't know what kind of music it was, and had already spent too much money that day :-p
But i don't really like electro anyway... so no regrets really :-p Sorry. Why don't you just change your will so that I get your cd-collection after you die ;-)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-24 08:08 [#00526602]
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lol! Yeah now that you mention it!!
:-p
Take notice music-industry!
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-24 08:11 [#00526606]
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owkay you can have my cd's after i die (if it isn't you who kills me) but then you must tell me where i can get one of those remy zero t-shirts you designed..
they're cool!
you make some cool stuff, i esp. like that 'night' stuff
btw 'radioactive man' is keith tenniswood of 'two lone swordsmen'..
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-24 08:22 [#00526632]
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wow, you actually looked at my site? Cool :-)
It's all very old though... if i was still a student at the artacademy i would change the site, but now that i graduated, i don't have acces to the server anymore... damn! (i'm actually surprised they've still kept it online for so long).
My more recent work is much better imo ;-) But until i get myself a scanner i can't put any of it online.
Oh and the shirts aren't available :-( Those bastards at remy zero... i actually won the contest (and the prize would be that the shirt was actually going to be produced), but then i never heard from them again... grumble!
I have got a thousand stickers pressed with that little red man that lost his arm ;-) You can have some of those in exchange for your record-collection :-p (when you die ofcourse... btw, are terminal diseases known to occur in your family? And do you smoke? Drink? Like to drive fast? :-p Just out of curiosity ofcourse).
But anyway, thanks for looking! And Thanks! for your kind words :-)
and btw: i don't know those lone swordsmen either ;-)
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2003-01-24 10:50 [#00526929]
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If you have the means, I highly recommend burning copies of all your cds for travelling, and leaving the originals at home. That way you have a backup.
Actually, DVDs are more resistant to actually being affected by scratches. dvd has a more powerful error correction system than compact discs.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-01-24 11:21 [#00526964]
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i HATE it to
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-24 11:57 [#00527029]
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I bought the Hangedup CD 'Kicker In Tow' and it turned out to be scratched. Took it back to the shop, got a replacement and that was scrtached to in the same place. :(
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-01-24 13:39 [#00527166]
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Here's how to fix scratched CDs... toothpaste! rub a little into the affected area and smooth it out. remove all excess. leave for a minute et voila. the toothpaste has almost the same refractive index as the cd material, and should make it readable.........also toothpaste is great for removing spikes from your feet if you tread on sea urchins. this wonderful substance can also be used to clean teeth or something, but im not too sure about that.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-24 13:53 [#00527181]
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Have you ever tried that yourself?
Because i've read about that too, tried it... and nothing happened :-(
Well it didn't make things worse, but it didn't fix the scratch either.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-01-24 13:59 [#00527188]
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yep ive tried the cd fix and it DOES work. its worth trying a couple of times. i had to wipe it off and try again about 4 times, but now the cd is fine, but its very hit and miss. it can fix most problems, but it cant recreate the data unfortunaltely, what it does is it keeps the laser on target as it searches for the data. when it sees the toothpaste, it interprets it as no data, and skips on to the next section which has the redundancy data, i.e the same bit of track. without the toothpaste, it is more enclined to look at the scratch, read half, get confused, not bother with redundancy data and read the scratch, and so on.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-24 14:41 [#00527224]
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pixies cds scratch easily for some reason, and my faith no more - angel dust cd is scratched on quite a few songs.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-24 14:45 [#00527229]
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oh I meant to say that doolittle skips on tame even though there is no mark on the cd. never understood that and my OK computer skips on the tourist!!! i hate it, it just started skipping recently and I dont know why, I should clean it soon. all my other cds are in pristine\no skipping condition.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-25 11:46 [#00527936]
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Okay i will try again then :-)
Hope i can get it to work! Does it matter which type of toothpaste you use? I think i've got normal, and also something with natural whitener in it or something, lol.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-25 11:51 [#00527945]
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If you are sure the cd has no scratches... it could also be a problem of the cd-player :-/
I've already gone through 3 cd-players so far in the last couple of years... in the end they all started to act funny and started skipping cd's for no reason. (and it would also take them forever to "locate" the cd, so to speak... i mean you put the cd in the tray, close the tray... and normally within a few seconds the display says how many songs there are on the cd etc. But when my cd-players were almost at the end of their lives, it would sometimes take them like 1 or 2 minutes to find out how many songs were on there... it sucked).
If you also have had this happen to you... you have a serious problem with your cd-player i'm afraid.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-29 03:12 [#00675686]
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wow! this toothpaste thing really does work!! :)
i tried it yesterday and my cd doesn't skip anymore! wicked, thanks dave! :D
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 03:18 [#00675687]
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see i told you all. :P oh ye of little faith ;) it works a treat doesn't it. i would recomend that you burn yourself a copy because the toothpaste can come off when you least expect it, which incidently is always when you've just finsihed off that tube of toothpaste as well.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-29 03:23 [#00675691]
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WHAAAAT?! you're only telling me this now?!
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-29 03:31 [#00675697]
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well the toothpaste rubs off if you leave beer cans on them and the beer leaves a little round mark on the cd, so you rub it off when its still wet and then the toothpaste comes off as well. normally it is quite durable. i think your answer was sarcastic, but i can never tell any more...oh the youth of today......
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-29 03:36 [#00675699]
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hehe yeah it was sarcastic :P
i don't leave beer cans on my cd's, i'm pretty careful with them actually :)
i think it'll be quite durable indeed.. and if it ever comes of i'll just do another toothpaste-session
.. *shakes his head and mumbels..* '..leaving beer cans on cd's .. oh the youth of today..'
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nacmat
on 2003-04-29 03:43 [#00675702]
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my cds are like my sons
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-29 03:47 [#00675703]
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yeah same here, a friend of me borrowed 2 cd's of mine this week, i can't stand the gap on my shelf, i hate to lend them to others
i want them back ASAP :\
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nacmat
on 2003-04-29 04:08 [#00675713]
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same feeling here.... maybe we are sick
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-29 04:10 [#00675715]
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haha yeah probably, but hey who lends his sons to others? some of my cds are daughters though.. i'm not sure 'bout girl/boy.. :\
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nacmat
on 2003-04-29 04:37 [#00675735]
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I wont ever lend an aphex or autechre cd
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