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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 04:19 [#00524892]
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So many times i read on this mb that people like hip-hop. I do not at all like it, and neither do i see/hear the similarity between IDM and hip-hop.
I was wondering if i'm the only one who does like IDM/electro very much but doesn't like hip-hop a bit. Please don't tell me i'm the only one...
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-01-23 04:26 [#00524895]
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I am NOT a fan of Hip Hop much at all....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-01-23 04:28 [#00524896]
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you know there's some pretty decent hip hop out there
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-23 04:31 [#00524898]
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i hate hip hop i like some "sortof" rap just two in fact meOne and ttc
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-01-23 04:38 [#00524905]
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im not a pericular fan of hip hop
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Archrival
on 2003-01-23 04:41 [#00524907]
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Me lOvE "IHM" ;)
Intelligent HipHop Music
:)
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-23 04:42 [#00524909]
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Thats very subjective. What "hip-hop" have you heard?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 04:42 [#00524910]
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is there any then..
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-23 04:44 [#00524913]
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Would you be refering to a group like cLoudead?
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philieeee
on 2003-01-23 04:44 [#00524914]
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Check out MF doom- operation doomsday GZA - liquid swords
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 04:45 [#00524915]
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don't know what you guys exactly consider hip-hop, but i hate all such like music..(e.g. N*E*R*D or public enemy)
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orangeboy
from brizzle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-23 04:46 [#00524917]
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why don't you like hip-hop? lyrics? beats?
try prefuse 73 - lots o' fun
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-23 04:49 [#00524922]
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have heard all sort of hip hop underground (i assume) to near r'n'b stuffs... i just hate it thats all i can say as for most of reggea, ragga..
but meOne is really good and calming, intelligent music imo you alll should check up for what he does
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 04:50 [#00524924]
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yeah lyrics.. and 'bout beats; imo beats in IDM are much more 'sophisticated'/intelligent (don't know how to say it..) ..
hiphop sounds too much te same to me
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C738
from Outer Space on 2003-01-23 04:51 [#00524925]
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I like hip hop, hardcore punk, death metal, Gabber, ambient, IDM, even BZN.
(that last one is a joke...)
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nacmat
on 2003-01-23 04:51 [#00524926]
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I am not a super fan (hip hop) but I like dj shadow, blackalicious, quannum project, dj vadim, de la soul...
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-23 04:51 [#00524927]
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comon theyre always talking about money, cars, bitches, their coolness, etc....
imean its just extremely boring plus im not really attracted by their bitch-ladies in general, so maybe the interest is related... i cannot relate
i wanna kill ja rule
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philieeee
on 2003-01-23 04:54 [#00524935]
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thats a narrow minded comment. Glass eater. Generalising hip-hop is silly.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-23 04:56 [#00524938]
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i know that, and im even close to be proud
i begin to love joey starr, a french rap singer that hits monkeys for the pleasure...
:D
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C738
from Outer Space on 2003-01-23 04:56 [#00524939]
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Lets start a new genre:
Hippie hop
Rapping about flowers and world peace and taking lsd.
Morton, lets start a band okay?!
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-23 04:58 [#00524942]
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Hip-Hop would be great without the vocals...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 04:58 [#00524943]
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yeeeeey! :)
i'm hip!
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 04:59 [#00524944]
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and the music..
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nacmat
on 2003-01-23 05:02 [#00524947]
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danbrusca: dj shadow
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 05:03 [#00524948]
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hippiehop (for the girl in danbruscas avatar)
"Je bent niet hip, je bent niet knap, je drinkt geen bier maar tomatensap
je bent niet rijk je bent niet vlot, je ouwe fiets die is altijd kapot,
je hebt een baan waarvan je zegt, hij is niet goed en hij is niet slecht,
maar jij bent lief en reuze trouw, jij hoort bij mij en ik bij jou"
"shalalalalaaaa shalalalalala"
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orangeboy
from brizzle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-23 05:04 [#00524950]
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if lyrics are important, try the first gravediggaz lp (if you can get niggamortiz instead of the 6 feet deep ep all the better)
nice beats as well (though maybe a bit simple for your tastes)
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2003-01-23 05:07 [#00524954]
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i listened to hip hop before i started listen to electronic music but i got tired off it just for the same reason as
Glass_ Eater said so i switched to electronic music.
The only hip hop artist/producer with some skills nowadays is timbaland i think
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-23 05:10 [#00524958]
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the good hip-hop is underground.
check out the Hieroglyphics, especially the tracks 'At the Helm',
People Under the Stairs, The Shapeshifters, and the Visionaries, Mad Lib, Talib Kwelie, and Blackaliscious are alright as well.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-23 05:11 [#00524959]
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Well- Public Enemy are playing at ATP (along with IDM acts) so :P !
I like hiphop, but I'm not a huge fan.
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bird
from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2003-01-23 05:14 [#00524964]
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How can you say you don't like (all) hip hop? I'm sure one day there will be, or was at least one song in that ..*genre*.. that you'd like!
Do i love country music? ... not particularly But I like the song Jolene by Dolly Parton (was covered by Darcy Clay, and the White Stripes) ^^
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-23 05:17 [#00524970]
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underground underground underground. Del tha funky homosapian. I wish he were still underground. But who cares, he still kicks ass!
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2003-01-23 05:21 [#00524976]
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i think the windowlicker music video is a parodi off all comercial hip hop videos
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C738
from Outer Space on 2003-01-23 06:11 [#00525009]
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Morton, could you make a wav or mp3 of that text??? I'd love to put a beat under it :).
You can email me at my email address :P
to axion: I like the way that clip disses the michael jackson videos.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 06:14 [#00525014]
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you can pick it off the net C738, it's an old song by Patricia Paay, i don't know the title, i guess it's just "je bent niet hip" or something
haha share it with us when you finished your version :D
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 06:17 [#00525020]
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HAHAHHA!!! patricia paay lol. kan je ook al niet wachten op de adams family? :D
i like hip hop beat, not the rap. except if they are chopped up a la prefuse 73.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-01-23 06:23 [#00525027]
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Hip hop, to me, is lame because they sample other music without altering it, for one. Also, the lyrics mean nothing whatsoever. So many songs have people in the background yelling, "What!" or "WHo!" over and over again. There's just nothing to it.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-01-23 06:31 [#00525033]
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i'm don't like (all) hiphop-music...but i dig the style
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2003-01-23 06:32 [#00525034]
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It's the same as with house and techno. there are so many bad records that people can hardly find the good ones.
I have nothing against hiphop as a musicstyle and I love turntablism but when I look at the total picture of hiphop, it's sad and it's getting worse all the time
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optimus prime
on 2003-01-23 06:37 [#00525038]
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straight up it's pretty bland, like jazz. i can only enjoy those genres after they've been manhandled by white kids with laptops.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-23 06:38 [#00525039]
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lyrics are the best part of hiphop
"I said a hip, hop, the hippie the hippie to the hip, hip, hop, a you don't stop the rock it to the bang bang boogie, say up jumped the boogie, to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat."
"say what? what, what, c'mon, what"
morton is trying to be funny
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-01-23 06:39 [#00525040]
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Hip-hop is ok... Just like elecrtonic music (and any music in general), you are exposed to the shit side of hip-hop.
So really, if you look harder you will find some quality hip-hop.
but the people who like it here make it depressing...
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Pigfarmer
from Ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-23 06:39 [#00525041]
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I like a lot of Hip Hop but not that stuff they play in the TV. Quasimoto is the best cause it creates a atmosphere I enjoy a lot. I think every music style has is ups & downs (except for eurotrance of course) so you can find something you like in every genre if you just dig deep enough ;-I
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C738
from Outer Space on 2003-01-23 06:48 [#00525046]
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yih yih niggah hoooo!
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-23 07:38 [#00525114]
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i think the ppl who said the dont like hip hop because of the lyrics actually dont like rap.. i know someone else said it already, but check out dj shadow for truly sublime hip hop, without lyrics.. i shit you not>>> Shadows musical genius is on par with ae and AFX, and he isnt even the exception to the rule:
(kid koala, the herbailiser and mr scruff also float my boat).
writing off hip hop because u dont like public enemy, is like writing off IDM because u dont like the vengaboys (sorta)
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C738
from Outer Space on 2003-01-23 07:50 [#00525139]
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Heh I actually like hiphop :)
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-01-23 08:23 [#00525194]
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I dont lke hip hop either. ;) Its boring, to me. It all sounds the same (one of the reasons that I also dont like a lot of internet dork music!) and most of the lyrics are trivial--cars! women! ice! alcohol! wooaahh! I think just about every rapper has said "put yo hands in the air" in at least one of their songs.
I just dont like it! BlaH!
Oh, and then theres Nellys video in which he lives in a town called "Nellyville". The funniest video in the world! Too bad he was probably taking himself seriously. ;)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-23 08:27 [#00525198]
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I don't like it, but I DO respect it, in part because I heard some fairly creative hip-hop stuff on Titworth's radio show that I wouldn't have heard otherwise, like on the radio.
It's still not my cup of tea, but I have more respect and understanding for it.
Most mainstream hip-hop just totally disgusts me and makes me want to cry, though.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-01-23 08:57 [#00525244]
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off topic?: any hiphop dated before 92 is big!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-23 09:38 [#00525280]
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I like the beastie boys :-D Do they qualify as hiphop? Probably... i guess?
All these genres confuse me...
What's the difference between hip hop and rap? For instance.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-01-23 09:45 [#00525289]
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Rap is a part of hip-hop. I didn't know this until long ago.
Anyone who doesn't like hip-hop should give <------him a listen, and realise there is so much more to hip-hop than first appears.
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