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           mylittlesister
             from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 12:15 [#00524034]
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 I need to do a presentation on (what-they-call) IDM. The  bulk of it will be explaining how crap the name is, but i  need some artists/tracks that are VERY early idm, like back  in the Mixmaster Morris days. Can anyone recommend some?  thank you 
 
  
         
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           nacmat
             on 2003-01-22 12:22 [#00524038]
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incunabula surfing on sine waves  bytes
  lots of tracks from  here
 
  
         
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           Portland
             from San Diego (United States) on 2003-01-22 12:24 [#00524040]
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try to get your hands on the AI series comps from warp. good  early stuff from those releases. 
 
 
 
  
         
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           FlyAgaric
             from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-22 13:24 [#00524098]
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Or the braindance coincidence compilation...
 
  
         
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           mylittlesister
             from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 13:50 [#00524146]
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cool, thanks people
  I'm downloading the AI sampler at the mo. see if any will be  suitable :-) 
 
  
         
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           xceque
             on 2003-01-22 14:00 [#00524157]
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I have invented a new abbreviation to replace IDM. It's  UEEB, and it stands for Unlistenable Experimental Electronic  Bollocks.
 
  Try early Speedy J (Ginger, Pepper), Black Dog (Bytes), The  Orb (you know the one), Orbital (Brown, Green), FSOL  (Cascade), Scanner (Scanner1,2), Spooky (Gargantuan)... I  guess when you go back far enough "IDM" becomes "techno" so  when do you start classing stuff as IDM? 
 
  
         
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           aron
             from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-01-22 14:02 [#00524160]
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lfo - frequencies
 
 
  
         
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           FlyAgaric
             from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-22 14:03 [#00524163]
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When the songs start evolving and are not all repetive with  the same beat and sounds the whole way through...
 
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           corngrower
             from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-01-22 14:04 [#00524167]
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you could use the Artificial Intelligence compilation...  some tracks like Autechre - Crystal, The Egg; and some early  early aphex like Digeridoo, Analogue Bubblebath I 
 
  
         
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           mylittlesister
             from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:05 [#00524169]
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yeah, it was techno. from Chicago.... it began to mix with  chilled out, synth pop/new wave stuff and became 'IDM' 
 
  
         
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           astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:10 [#00524174]
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therre is no genre called idm - only a reaction to other  music a very consertvative and anal  message baord type  thing set up to discuss the aphex twin primarily - autechre  aphex etc are a natural; extention of the things they  listened to ie techno - eg derrick may /drexcitya /kevin  saunderson / juan aitkins  chicago acid and house - ie mr  fingers /trax records /bam bam etc new york house and  brooklyn music ie nu groove/muto and bones and todd terry ..  as well as the progression of this music thru drum and bass  , hardcore , garage etc + the further listening of more  academic musc and other types of music that use technology  ... idm don't mean shit to anyone aprt from the people that  started that lweb list whenever it was back in the early  90's 
 
  
         
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           astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:11 [#00524176]
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lfo frequencies is just a reaction to chicago house with a  bit of british soundsystem busting spirit and dr who  influence 
 
  
         
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           astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:13 [#00524180]
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techno - or the name techno ws coined in detroit - house and  acid started in chicago - instead of learning off this bunch  of amateurs why don't you do a goggle search around the  subject - you might even find some music you enjoy :) 
 
  
         
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           astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:14 [#00524183]
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you start classing stuff as idm when you become a total  wanker 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-22 14:18 [#00524188]
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so is aphex twin IDM then?
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-22 14:20 [#00524191]
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completely off topic but night in motion by cubic 22 is  brilliant and deserves a mention right here right now 
 
  
         
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           astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:22 [#00524194]
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he's interesting electronic music 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-22 14:24 [#00524197]
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i prefer 2 unlimited, what are they?
 
  
         
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           astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:25 [#00524201]
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eurotrance
 
  
         
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           astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:26 [#00524202]
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a or rather a musely bloke and a bird with nice tits singing  bad english to a 4 4 - 
 
  
         
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           mylittlesister
             from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:28 [#00524206]
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i dont like the term IDM either, that's the point that I'm  hoping will come across to the rest of my class
 
  but IDM is a genre name in my textbook
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-22 14:28 [#00524209]
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is it me or was acid house just called acid and house was  called house? 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-22 14:30 [#00524212]
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actually Snap were better than 2 unlimited
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-22 14:31 [#00524215]
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i mean the bird was better looking, obviously
 
  
         
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           astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:32 [#00524216]
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no acid ws the sound coming from a tb 303 house music comes  from the name of a club in chicago - can't remeber the name  of it but it's got house in it innit  - they're not really  separable genres cos acid and house were made and listened  to by the same groups of people at the same time and acid  and house trackswere released on the same records etc -- 
  acidis just that 303 noise 
 
  
         
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           astrid-gil-botn
             from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:33 [#00524219]
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not really cos it has no specific characteristics - it's  just what people chose to call a handful of groups in the  early ninetees and it's kinda stuck with those groups and  labels efc 
 
  
         
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           diablo
             on 2003-01-22 15:49 [#00524326]
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I think ex covered it there
 
  
         
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           diablo
             on 2003-01-22 15:50 [#00524331]
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xce i mean
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-22 15:57 [#00524349]
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so where did the house sound of chicago come from? gay bars  playing hi-nrg records like dead or alive? 
 
  
         
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           sdrocer_eta
             from United Kingdom on 2003-01-22 16:25 [#00524406]
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here here astrid....
 
  
         
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           revpersona
             from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-01-23 15:14 [#00525772]
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Besides the ones mentioned:
  Plaid - Trainer (material on Disc 1 from 1989 till 1992)
 
  
         
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           weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-23 21:01 [#00525996]
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 Tango 'N Vectif 
 
  
         
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